Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Bill's Due]

I was hoping that I wouldn't lose another person to troonism but god damn it, it fucking happened again.

So a while ago one of my best friends moved to Orlando. While Florida is a mostly red state IIRC, Orlando is extremely leftist and hates anyone who agrees with the right somewhat (for example: there are literal pride events there and if you go onto the subreddit, everyone hates republicans) My friend was surprisingly very conservative for a lesbian. She hated trannies, like, really hated them. But all of that changed a while ago after she moved to Orlando. She was a bit more of a tomboy but then she came out as a pooner to me and also her friend group (on Shitcord of course). They were all extremely supportive and I was told that me disapproving of her delusions was considered bigotry or something. I then stopped talking to her and that friend group.

Honestly, I don't even know if I can trust people not become troons or pooners anymore. These fucking trannies will break everyone in their vicinity.

I think most of us fucks here will avoid doing that. We saw what this shit can do to sane people, we saw what it can do to mentally ill people.

This ideology is poison.

 

[GluttonousManSlob]

I think most of us fucks here will avoid doing that. We saw what this shit can do to sane people, we saw what it can do to mentally ill people.

I think browsing Kiwi Farms offers a unique perspective on the troon question. It's one thing to hate troons in theory and from chance encounters with them in the wild, but seeing what people have documented here is like gazing into the abyss. It opens up whole new dimensions of depravity you never knew existed. If Stinkditch can't convince you not to troon out, I don't think anything could.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I’ve known for at least a decade, but travel to a place associated with an old acquaintance from uni made me wonder whether they’d gone full tranny. Back in the post-university days he introduced us all to his ‘inner girl’ via a cheesy black and white photo shoot online. The guy was a classic androgynous twink with delicate features, rail straight and fine hair, and looked fantastic in eyeliner and black nail polish at metal nights. ’Inner girl’ was a muted goth slut, of course.

Well, it’s been many, many years, and looking him up again was of course the obvious. He trooned out, blew up his job and his relationship with his parents, apparently he was sooooo worried about what his goth friends would think if he turned up for the festival telling everyone he was a laydee now. He’s oh so depressed. Everyone hates him and he’s too scared to leave his house, but goddamn those bastards he’s going to be a laydee anyway.

Then I think back and it clicks. We shared an acquaintance who has gone on to be a rather big-name academic tranny. I remember them talking a lot about music ‘and stuff’ back in our university days. Now it makes sense where his ‘inner girl’ came from - groomed by that epic arsehole who is everything everyone utterly fucking hates about men in dresses.

Curiously, another shy goth twink loosely associated with this friend group also trooned out about that time. Really makes you think.

I’m actually a little scared to look up the people I knew in university. Those intelligent, driven, quirky, funny and creative people. I used to think that in years to come we’d all be secretly embarrassed by getting boring 9-5 jobs for decent wages, and having a mortgage and kids like everyone else. Now I’m desperately hoping this for all of them, because at least that means they’re not actively destroying their bodies and their lives.

RIP my two goth friends. And fuck academic tranny five ways to Sunday (I could rant so much more about that shitheel).

 

[Meth Reindeer]

The whole thing is so disturbing, and disgusting on a visceral level I can't even describe. Willful stupidity and moral cowardice on a level beyond any decent person's comprehension. The madness can easily stop if society collectively grew a pair and told the troons to knock it off and unfuck themselves, and yet they deliberately choose not to.

If humanity still exists centuries later, doubtless people will look back on this period of time with scorn and horror. I hope they hate us. I hope they mock and ridicule this generation as being superstitious retards and naval-gazing, sex-obsessed narcissists.

It's just pure laziness and fear of rocking the boat. Moral cowardice is definitely an apt description. I think it stems from a "I've got mine" selfish attitude that's been pervading our culture. Most people seem to superficially approve of all sorts of nuttiness simply because it doesn't directly effect them.

But none of them have to actually deal with it. They have zero investment in the outcome.

Your story is harrowing and makes me MATI. It's definitely people taking the easy, nonconfrontational, head down approach to life that enable this kind of behavior.

I am so scared for vulnerable men getting swept up by this ideology during their weakest moments.

How can normies have their sense of morality and empathy warped and misdirected to such extremes?

They're too preoccupied with all the distractions our modern lives contain, and too poor to stick out their necks and say no. I am still hopeful that the majority who'd bother to hear a few of these horror stories, or think a little would at least quietly rebel.

Which is why we need it. Bring back shaming.

I agree 100% shame is very important. A friend tells me I shouldn't kink-shame whenever weird stuff enters our conversations and I just laugh. If you're into weird shit, I have a right to point it out. If you can't defend yourself or deal with criticism then don't try to pretend it's normal.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

ravel to a place associated with an old acquaintance from uni made me wonder whether they’d gone full tranny.

There are at least 4 old acquaintances who could have trooned out. I have no evidence of this because it's been 10+ years for most of them and I'm sure I will never see them again. 1 of them I knew well and I have the suspicion that she pooned out. Either that or she died because she disappeared abruptly after I met her again a 6 or 7 years ago so something happened. She would have been a pooner candidate - anime fan (including yaoi), bisexual, tomboy...It would be such a shame if she pooned out. We were best friends and I miss her. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if she pooned out and then 41%ed herself. I hope I'm wrong and she is still alive, happy and a normal woman.

 

[Paper Machete]

I agree 100% shame is very important. A friend tells me I shouldn't kink-shame whenever weird stuff enters our conversations and I just laugh. If you're into weird shit, I have a right to point it out. If you can't defend yourself or deal with criticism then don't try to pretend it's normal.

People who don't want you to kink shame are just trying to crowd source help in drowning out the voice of their conscience. If they were truly comfortable with what they were and what they were doing then the opinion of others not involved in their antics wouldn't matter so much. It's pathetic. I will laugh in their face whenever given the opportunity. If you're stupid enough to share private, intimate details about your sex life then you're going to have to be tough enough to take the bullying.

 

[Ed Special]

Well, lads, my sister's back to "She/they" on Discord. Given that she's a low-functioning autistic and literally her entire "friend" group is troons, and she lives half a state away and gets assmad whenever I say anything about troons or pooners that isn't unconditional rod-swallowing support for their stunning and brave self-mutilation and grooming of vulnerable people (like her) to do the same, I suppose it's inevitable that she'll end up pooning.

 

[Terfatron]

Is there like helplines/support groups for going through something like this? Not just another discord but accrual meetups?

I kinda wish there was some sort of intervention group ala investigators kidnapping people from cults to set them straight. Don't know if those are still done but rolling up in a black suv, throw the troon in and then keep them away from the Internet for a month would probably help many of them.

It all fits according to the BITE model (mentioned before) so I dont see why a cult intervention wouldn't work in some cases.

I understand why people won't and can't do it since its something to be "celebrated" but everything else seem to just fall short.

I just get so sad seeing the people left behind having to pick up the pieces and deal with the grief.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

I understand why people won't and can't do it since its something to be "celebrated" but everything else seem to just fall short.

and because "conversion therapy" was made illegal in al lot of places . Even a therapist suggesting that their patient is not heckin valid transgender and trying other treatments instead could cost them their license.

 

[The First Amendment]

troons should just kms instead of ruining other peoples lives by prolonging theirs

 

[Aunt Carol]

I understand why people won't and can't do it since its something to be "celebrated" but everything else seem to just fall short.

I just get so sad seeing the people left behind having to pick up the pieces and deal with the grief.

What @LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV] said, and there's the cultural inertia in the US. Up until very recently, troons were sacrosanct, holy, better-than-women angels who could not be criticized and needed to be protected, and the government removing special privileges has only caused the perception that they're even more endangered. An individual marriage's tragedy is going to be cast against a greater Culture War [tm].

Troons know this, and they use it against their victims. It's the same as using religion against an abuse victim. Nobody will support you if you reach out, because you're a lowly woman and I'm an upstanding elder who could never be capable of all these things.

Nobody will support you if you reach out, because that will mean you're transphobic and I'm stunning and brave, now keep quiet while I cheat on you and spend all our money on cosmetic procedures.

We'll know the tide is really turning when there are common sense answers in the mainstream advice columns. Not "tell your husband HWNBAW," but if we start seeing "your husband's a woman now but that doesn't mean she gets to cheat on you/stop working/override you on budgeting," then we know nature is healing. Right now it's still "wow, such journey, look up resources on how you can adapt, take your man for a manicure."

 

[Online Fossil]

went out with some friends recently and met my first true and honest woman irl. I don’t know him, he’s the husband of a friend of a friend. From some social media sleuthing they’ve been together for over a decade, prob each other’s first and only relationship, both massive weeb nerds into your typical anime and vidya, he was a quiet skinny twinky guy, but worst of all they have a toddler child together. Like many of them it seems he became too online during the pandemic and fell into it over the last couple years. Wife is deep into the kool-aid herself, staying with him and calling herself a lesbian. Yuck.

I still don’t understand why all of this infected geek spaces so hard. I miss 20 years ago when you could just play video games and nerds were some of the most accepting that women can have “masculine” interests and guys can be soft and not into sports and whatever. Now it seems young geek men are expected to either choose to be some Joe Rogen red pill incel type OR follow Breadtube commies and eventually troon out.

It’s regressive and makes me sad.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I still don’t understand why all of this infected geek spaces so hard. I miss 20 years ago when you could just play video games and nerds were some of the most accepting that women can have “masculine” interests and guys can be soft and not into sports and whatever. Now it seems young geek men are expected to either choose to be some Joe Rogen red pill incel type OR follow Breadtube commies and eventually troon out.

It’s regressive and makes me sad.

The only silver lining to all of that is that the unbearable stench of stinkditch has forced many out of those hugboxes and safe spaces and forced them to go touch grass.

Imagine being so uncool and so dysfunctional that even communities created by and for social rejects are crumbling thanks to your presence.

But even then, IRL there's no real escape from the troon menace, it's just less prevalent IRL than online.

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

Well, lads, my sister's back to "She/they" on Discord. Given that she's a low-functioning autistic and literally her entire "friend" group is troons, and she lives half a state away and gets assmad whenever I say anything about troons or pooners that isn't unconditional rod-swallowing support for their stunning and brave self-mutilation and grooming of vulnerable people (like her) to do the same, I suppose it's inevitable that she'll end up pooning.

Sucks but you could try to support her brave gender nonconformity as a cis girl?

I know, I know, but hear me out. Sometimes girls in that situation are looking for away out but are too dumb and/or insecure to take it unless they do it in small none scary steps where they aren't the bad guy. It's pretty pathetic but the honest truth. They are convinced that their current horrible friend group or romantic relationship is their only chance of happiness ever. Trying snap them out with criticism or other negative feedback tends to just further convince them that their opinions are either feeling bad or feeling bad but with some friends. So if the topic comes up, give her positive feedback for not being gender special in away that's acceptable to her current screwed world view. How she is so brave to exits as a girl and ally rather pretend to be trans for fashion and fame (here point out some tranny or ex-tranny she hates or is likely to hate).

I don't mean you should try use trannies to lure her away from them. Actually you should avoid the topic and instead just give her positive feedback and moments separated from controversial topics so she can just forget that crap. That's ideal but depending on the person that might be difficult and so having a gameplan if it comes up can smooth things over.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

Former coworker I kept in touch with (technically still just on leave?) trooned out and told me the other day. Time to quiet-quit a former memelord who will surely be sucked into the void.

This sucks. I can't warn him. I can't tell him anything. The only thing worth doing is to just forget I knew him. Everything is too big of a risk to take, and the payoff, at best, is a codependent autist. It really is no wonder people like this get sucked in instead of helped, and even less of one that once they cross the event horizon the only thing to do is wash your hands of them.

FUCKING HELL 5.5K POSTS IN THIS THREAD.

 

[Maricón de Mierda]

I've read this thread for a few years now but didn't expect to actually make a post here. But then yesterday, an online friend of mine "came out" as non-binary. I haven't "lost" him, but I'm just sad because he has all the cliched shit going on. He was traumatically dumped last year, with some on and off regrouping and rebreaking. He's been packed to the gills with anti-depression meds ever since. He has a history of self-harming and has started up again. Autistic NEET on the Internet all day long. Just depresses me.

Update to my pal who "came out" as non-binary. He hasn't mentioned anything about it since. He spent a week in the psych ward and he's back in again after cutting his arm very badly. He initially went in because he was punching his own head hard enough to give himself a concussion. I won't post anymore updates since his "tranness" is very minor, but I just wanted to vent about how trannies target the most vulnerable people when they're at their weakest. They don't care about anyone they infect. They're just an opportunistic infection.

 

[Fapcop]

He initially went in because he was punching his own head hard enough to give himself a concussion.

So he beat himself into trannydom? Sanest NB out there!

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Update to my pal who "came out" as non-binary. He hasn't mentioned anything about it since. He spent a week in the psych ward and he's back in again after cutting his arm very badly. He initially went in because he was punching his own head hard enough to give himself a concussion. I won't post anymore updates since his "tranness" is very minor, but I just wanted to vent about how trannies target the most vulnerable people when they're at their weakest. They don't care about anyone they infect. They're just an opportunistic infection.

They're not allowed to stop people from self-harming in the psych ward here so it's very apparent who do it for attention. You guessed it: Fat ex-tumblrinas who're so cut up and fat you basically can't tell the gender in the first place. So far I've only seen troons employed there, not patients. I knew troons' idea of the opposite gender is stuck at age 6-18, why f2ms look like Bieber and m2fs look like fuckdolls with pumps, stockings and skirts, but this was too on the nose. Build and posture of a young girl, short dyed ginger hair, puberty-tier beard, blue denim overalls like some kind of Dennis the Menace, a squeaky voice, and basically pulled most of my coworkers' head around to go "the hell is that?". And they're all loving parents with lots of compassion.

So he beat himself into trannydom? Sanest NB out there!

Visited a troon years ago and upon being misgendered, they beat themselves in the head in a way I wouldn't even be able to force myself to do. They're just so fucking juvenile. Any other adult would sit down, let out a sigh and verbally vent. Not literally self-harm in the most pussy way imaginable.

Anyway: My own troon is only digging deeper. Going to furry parties dressed in heels and thigh-cut dresses and shit, but also clearly wanting my compassion because "nobody touches me UwU" while having sent nudes to people since before trooning out, even at age 15-16. At least then he was just a generic furry. I really want to just fucking remove him but at the same time I'm down to so few contacts that I don't mind wasting 25 mins on him a week if just to vent how fucking retarded he is. And he knows, and he agrees, but yet just keeps digging down further. It's sad.

 

[Paper Machete]

And he knows, and he agrees, but yet just keeps digging down further.

Some people are so comfortable being miserable that even when self-aware about it they do not do anything to fix their problems. There is really nothing you can do for them, any help in the form of time/effort/resources will be a waste, because for one reason or another they don't truly want to get better. They just malinger.

 

[Rotollo 2]

A good friend of mine became a troon, surprisingly so because he expressed anti-trans views before transitioning. About 3-4 years ago, he "confessed" to "feeling like a girl," which didn't seem like a big deal because he was young and still trying to find himself, but my friend-group honed in on this and "supported" this idea so much and so frequently, it felt like he was pushed into it beyond return. Ever since, our group has been falling apart, everything revolves around the tranny and as soon as you say something that even slightly generalizes him as a man (e.g. saying things like "dude [...]" or "man wtf") they all blow up. It's so toxic and retarded. How to cope?

late I know but personally I'd just slowly move away from the group, not in a "they don't agree with you" sort of way, but if they all just want to try and keep a clearly broken friend group alive like a loveless marriage just get the fuck out of dodge like your a kid who just turned 18 with a license