Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Niggernerd]

But now I'm seeing more and more obviously straight girls LARPing as queer.

A lot of women see it as a uwu quirk

 

[Bumblino]

That really is the thing, isn't it? I bet half of the posters in this thread wouldn't care about people trooning out if they didn't also become insufferable dolts in the process.

I'd feel sad anyways, because in the end trooning out is just not accepting yourself and trying to come up with some radical way of changing your life out of self-hate or escapism. It's not healthy and the way they behave can never make me think "oh yeah they're fine and dandy". If you have to reject reality to feel better then there's something deeply wrong with you or your life, I don't care if it's a peter pan complex, joining a cult or snipping your dick off, that's really never the answer to what you have going on.

 

[Kulee Baba]

I made one Steam friend via DOTA 2 matches, a year ago he writes to me that he's trans is going to start transitioning. I argued to him that while I feel for him and his gender dysphoria I simply don't believe one could change sex and that above anything else a sex change surgery is a bad move for anyone involved.

Last month he sent me a message via Steam saying that he doesn't see himself as trans anymore and was just suffering a mental breakdown. I can't credit my own "transphobia" for helping him come to common sense as opposed to him realizing what was wrong via some counseling or his own self reflection, but I'm certain it didn't hurt.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Any mention of the past leads to something about how that was "before her egg cracked" and therefore should be ignored and forgotten.

Literal shitty "I was baptized so I must be absolved of everything uwu" talk, ugh.

The difference with troons is that the "dead" person is now walking around as a strange sex-addicted zombie that pretends it was never the person you loved in the first place.

Its invasion of the body snatchers but by willing choice. Decades ago these guys would be part of the Children of God or the People's Church cults.

It sucks because I've known her for almost my entire life and she's basically the only person I've ever truly connected with (as I'm very mentally ill and a Twitter account away from my own thread on this site). It's hard to let the friendship go. My mom used to say that she's the type of friend I'd keep for my entire life.

It's so hard to accept that the friendship is basically over. I know, logically, that you're correct and it will keep escalating (especially as she's gone this far), but I hold out hope for a desist or detransition, as I did when I thought I was trans. I did not go nearly this far, though. But a small part of me is praying

I'm in a similar spot with my friend, but she lives far away so I can cut her off easier. Even then, its been 6 months since the announcement and I've only now become more at peace with losing them. Up close and personal is more like a death death, the grief is longer and harder (but eventually it heals).

Some people do act out more and go or nearly go the full mile transitioning, then come down from their high. It depends on the person, hopefully she's like you and comes down before then. I'm sorry about your friend, rate me autistic but you get all my feels.

Basically, they were multiple layers of transgenderism within transgenderism.

Troons are like ogres...

Last month he sent me a message via Steam saying that he doesn't see himself as trans anymore and was just suffering a mental breakdown.

Thank goodness. Glad you helped him a bit even if you weren't the main catalyst (who knows ofc). Hope he's got some stable therapy or support and is making progress so he can DOTA2 in peace.

 

[Weed Eater]

So earlier I wrote about personal family being affected by troonery, but each new post that I've read has pushed me further. I voted "5+", I may as well share the other anecdotes.

The more I try to think of exactly how many people I've known personally that have trooned out, I end up having to delete and rewrite that number. The fact that I have known eight people twist themselves up with this ideology not only pisses me off but depresses me to no end. Most of these people I don't have contact with anymore, whether it was because they went AWOL after transition or because they simply dropped me from the contact list. Three or four out of these eight I knew personally from high school, one was just an obviously flamboyant gay guy, but nope he swallowed the troon pill too. Three female friends I was extremely close with took the "non binary" crap to heart, although one of those three was already into that crap before I met her at the end of high school. Still, those two particular friends, the way they changed was so radical. They had such gorgeous, LONG hair. One happens to be half black, so her textured hair having that much volume and length was not only a gift, but hard work put in. The day I saw that she chopped most of her 'fro away I wanted to cry. Don't even get me started on her BLM bullshit that this one also likes to mix in with her "non binary" politics.

Hell, I even had an internet friend whom I was very close with. He was like a brother I never had! Of course, he dropped me really quick once he sucked himself into the troon bullshit because instead of being normal, or even trying to keep good people close to you, nope! I would always see him as a "brother" so that puts a wrench in the trans validation I guess...

Finally, and this is the worst one for me. So I didn't witness this 50+ year old troon out, but my mother and I met and befriended this person before they had their axe would mutilation (Side note, it was done by Bowers. My mom even met the "woman", crazy fucking shit.) and let me tell you something. I am no longer on "good terms" with this freak for two reasons. One, because I wasn't liberal enough. The retard blocked me on social media because god forbid I don't suck off the Dems every second. Two, because her 30 something year old son groped me when I was still underage. Even my own mother didn't want to defend me, in fact she blamed me for getting groped. Anything to protect a tranny and "her" feelings, right?

All in all, this trans bullshit not only has ruined multiple friendships for me, but it's even led to getting blamed on for sexual assault.

 

[MasterMiller]

These probably aren't that interesting but what the hell I'll share anyway.


I haven't "lost" anybody but I did work with an FTM tranny at my job about a year ago. I had to train her and she was pretty chill surprisingly. She didn't really look like a guy, more like an androgynous lesbian. Though a few of my coworkers did think she was a guy at first so what do I know. She hardly ever brought it up while we working except that she didn't like using gendered language because she might "misgender" someone.

I also knew an MTF tranny that went to our church for a while. I think one time he came up to some church event and his family started belittling the people there. Somehow they persuaded him and his family to go to the church. After a while, he ended up freaking out because he wasn't allowed to go into the women restroom's at the church so he stopped attending.

Now that I think about it there was one guy I used to play games with on Steam about 5-6 years ago and he is trans now. I haven't talked to him in years but he has the trans flag in his profile now and has a female name as his steam username. Kinda forgot about him. Not sure how he's doing now.

I've been around a couple more trannies here and there but those were the two I knew the most. In my experience, I feel like FTM is a lot more chill and calm compared to MTF.

 

[Niggernerd]

I just remembered this girl i used to be close with in highschool. She was your typical hipster girl and i guess she and her bf had a bad breakup because the last time i saw her fb she shaved her head, was at some college in austin, and gave herself some shitty boy name.
And of course constantly posted tumblr talking points and dumb pride shit.
And this was during the beginning of the annoying anti-sjw vs sjw garbage.

 

[furūtsu]

Holy shit, tell me more about the one that named itself after you. WTF

Not much to say, and if I said too much I might get doxxed. I met them through a niche nerd community filled with coomers and male autists. They, like many others unfortunately, clung to me as I was often one of maybe two to three women at any of the gatherings, and I had a genuine interest in the hobby. And I'm too nice to tell anyone to fuck off.

I was shocked to find they used my name. We were never close or anything and I hadn't spoken to them in years. I was just a token chick they knew and somehow I'm an inspiration to them.

They also tended to smell, terribly. Like ass sweat and smegma.

 

[Lemmingwise]

We were never close or anything and I hadn't spoken to them in years. I was just a token chick they knew and somehow I'm an inspiration to them.

I am surprised to hear something that makes it less bad. Not having talked in years softens the blow by the tiniest smidge.

I was envisioning a reveal at work and saying "from now on you can call me (furutsu)!". And people cheering for it, because god forbid we are weirded about something a tranny does at their reveal.

 

[furūtsu]

'If you disagree with me, you get the fuck out of my sight because you are wrong,' that kind of mentality is something I despise, yet every tranny, it doesn't matter what community you are in, will think like this, that's why I left both.
I refuse to play pretend. I used to be in a terrible household with my mother and had to act as I agreed with her to avoid her anger outbursts. The internet was the only safe space I could be honest with my opinions.
I will not be forced to play pretend with some mentally ill figure again, not in real life nor on the internet.
If someone cuts off their arm, they are considered insane, but if someone wants to cut off their sex organs and pretend they are the opposite sex, they are stunning and brave?
Give me a fucking break.

Powerlevel for solidarity:

Spoiler

I'm the adult child of a narcissist mother. I know how you feel. This place is pretty much my only option for speaking my mind now, it feels like everywhere I go I'm being gaslit on a society-wide scale. Tranny tactics are identical to NPD's, it's terrifying. Due to having online classes and a field of work I can do entirely from home I'm morphing into a hikikomori; I refuse to comply with the world's insanity now.

Female autist who can't socialise with other female autists here. The entire network is swimming in social justice and dripping with trans worship. A support group I'm a member of absolutely will not allow anything except fervent and passionate avowals of turd sucking the instant someone raises a subject remotely related to trans issues. A 'transwoman' joined the group and it was clear from the first slimy post he made that he was a sexual predator there to groom young women, and I couldn't say a damn thing about it because I would have been kicked instantly from the group. I basically just blocked his posts and just hoped that no one really young lived near enough for him to get at them physically. One woman in the group assured me that she was, "a boy" despite being an adult woman who dresses conservatively in skirts and makeup everyday, with children and a husband, and was completely unable to explain to me just what the fuck that meant. I was told repeatedly by a number of these women that they were "proud to be women and also transgendered" and they couldn't tell me that the fuck that meant either, I was just supposed to go "Oooooh, inspiring!" and clap.

I'm a sped who wants to talk to other speds, and it's fucking impossible because they're all SJW trannies who've spent so long marinating on Twitter and Tumblr that they've convinced themselves that they live on the other side of the world in 'murica. Ask them what's going on in their own fucking country and they look at you like you've grown a second head. These people actually found a "calculate your privilege" website one day and they genuinely thought it was a legit ground breaking idea, and not fucking satire!

Fellow sped here. It's fucking rough. The girls I would've befriended in the Livejournal days are all enbies and handmaidens now, and trying to find women who are into my hobbies online is playing Tranny Roulette. I pretty much expect any "girl" posting about niche nerd shit online without a clearly female pfp is a tranny, and I haven't been wrong yet. They always have the most obnoxiously feminine names too, like XxbabycupcakegurlxX or some shit. It's like their LARP has to permeate every facet of their online identity.

 

[Windows XP Home Edition]

I know I've posted this story on the Tranny Sideshow thread, but I've not told the full story. So here it goes!

Spoiler: Powerleveling

I found out that after I graduated from high school, my foreign languages teacher who was very close to me trooned out and revealed himself to be an AGP (which I guess why he was asked to leave the school and he never told anybody). It was honestly the most surprising thing considering that he never showed any creepy or perverted behaviour the whole time I was there other than the fact he pushed the Latinx bullshit. I didn't hear from anything about him for a whole year and when I was going to email him to ask him about how he was doing and tell him of the different languages I was learning about, I decided to look him up since his school email had been terminated. I searched on the internet with his deadname, and found that he had a new name and completely trooned out. I was in complete denial. I tried reassuring myself that this was just his sister but in the end I learnt to accept it. My heart was broken into pieces though. Now he's a Trans activist lawyer who is still with his wife (I feel sorry for her! I'm surprised she's not yet a transwidow that has peaked).

 

[Zero Day Defense]

They also tended to smell, terribly. Like ass sweat and smegma.

How would you even kno--

never mind I don't even wanna know

 

[The Jokester]

Seen it happen a few times

The most interesting story was about a friend of a friend and my friend told me that this MtF was abused alot and was raped. I started to notice a pattern in not just this MtF but in lolcow troons too. It's not just a sexual thing. People will use a trans identity to escape from their past.

It's more "this happens to James but I'm not James, I'm Jamie" than anything else. It's about seeing a trauma they can't remove from their personality and because the infection is too deep, they abandon it and find a skin to wear with a fresh slate. They can try again with a new identity

 

[Rungle]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but someone in the MATI discord shared a video and I feel terrible for the dad.

 

[XANA]

Jfc of all the threads that I come out of lurking.

One of them is a mtf I came across a few years back. Incidentally, he had a very short-lived Twitter slap fight with our dear leader that only ended as fast as it did because he (predictably) blocked Null. He spouts the usual champagne commie opinions and possess a hostile disposition to people questioning the tranny lifestyle or generally saying anything but "transitioning good". I think he mentioned his "girl dick" once and I never figured out if he was actually being serious or not. (...Him deeming people that didn't want to have sex with transgender people, "transphobic", aside. ). He bragged about getting his nuts removed, but never committed to anything further than shaving down his laryngeal prominence to lighten his voice. He said he realized he was trans when he cosplayed as an anime girl. He seemed more like an odd duck rather than truly dysphoric.

Another one is a grad student I met around the same time. He is also another mtf and transed himself without any prelude one day about two years ago. He basically is the same fat socially awkward computer nerd he was when I graduated a couple years back, but now wears badly applied makeup and has slightly longer greasy hair. I think that if he had one or two good friends, he would not have done this.

The third mtf (seriously, what the fuck is up with this) is the classic tranny archetype. He is a self-diagnosed furry millenial ass-burger/autist consoomer with a penchant for cross dressing as a maid, watching a metric shit ton of anime, reverting to infantile mannerisms ("snuggling with my stuffies"), and marinating in Tumblr's latest Oppression Olympics. I figure he's most likely a confused autogynephile and is probably going to join the 41% if he keeps listening to the group he's with. He says that he's considering going on hormones, but will talk to a psych first.... Which is good in that it gives him a bit more time to think about it before he does irreparable harm to his body. Oddly enough, he claims to hate psychs and says that the recent relative availability of hrt (presumably through gender reassignment clinics) for anyone to basically grab without needing to see a psych/medical consultation is a good thing. Of the three, this one hurts the most. It's like watching a car crash in slow motion. I'm trying to persuade him to really think about this since it really seems like he just wants to be a femboi rather than suffering from any sort of dysphoria, but I know there's a point where you have to let go.

Edit: Clarification

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but someone in the MATI discord shared a video and I feel terrible for the dad.
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Wants to be a delicate feminine blossom, still reacts like Kyle when he's had too many Monster Energies and is about to punch drywall.

Another one is a grad student I met around the same time. He is also another mtf and transed himself without any prelude one day about two years ago. He basically is the same fat socially awkward computer nerd he was when I graduated a couple years back

Incels who live life as anime/game nerds, then transition to "female," and continue to to live life with the hobbies of (hikkikomori-level) computer nerds, are my favorite trans stereotype. The incel to troon pipeline is real.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Incels who live life as anime/game nerds, then transition to "female," and continue to to live life with the hobbies of (hikkikomori-level) computer nerds, are my favorite trans stereotype. The incel to troon pipeline is real.

Line Trap and dickgirl spam ruined an entire generation of weaboos

 

[skjora]

Never met or even saw an mtf irl despite living in a very progressive place. Sometimes feels like some kind of exotic tribe endemic to the internet, far away from reality.
Did meet an ftm at a party once though. Looked/acted like a cheerfully autistic guy with wild eyes, weird voice and absolutely no power level filter about autistic topics of interest. Didn't seem to be the entitled or self-absorbed sort I see online though.

Online though it's becoming increasingly more annoying. The online community I've spent most of my time in has been nearly completely overtaken at the top level. Every single mod is now explicitly communist, a troon, or both.

 

[Niggernerd]

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but someone in the MATI discord shared a video and I feel terrible for the dad.
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Entitled faggot "get out of my room!"
Get the fuck out of your poor dads house you fucking asshole.

These are the types who always demand your respect without doing anything to earn it.

 

[Zero Day Defense]

I just recalled: I knew someone who was teetering very casually, strangely enough. Promiscuous lady. Nerd. Generally pleasant to talk with. Took a liking to me at some point for a number of months, but I was bad at going for it even when I really tried (like, "blanking out when moving for a kiss" bad) so she had time to come to a conclusion that she was the prime problem in all her past relationships before I could figure out exactly what she thought of me and what she wanted to do.

She figured that if she ever had breast cancer, she'd not only get a double mastectomy, but she'd go further and get a "sex change". I can't recall for certain if her rationale was that her breasts were her only defining female quality. I do recall that she talked about how she had been molested as a kid by her mother's boyfriend at the time, so most of the times I've pondered it, I've thought that she was insecure in her femininity overall and used promiscuity to cope.

Spoiler: AUTISTIC RANT ABOUT TOMBOYS

First of all I just want to say that as someone who was a "tomboy" growing up, I really hate the tomboy fetishization shit that's become popular ever since the trans craze started. I've noticed that whenever a transition timeline is posted on 4chan (or here), it garners the same fucking reaction, every time:

>MTF
>”hahaha, look at the ugly tranny, he will 41%”
>FTM/female enby (such as this person who gets posted on 4chan constantly and was actually harassed into deleting her account)
>NOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN TRAD TOMBOY WAIFU!!!! THEY’RE STEALING OUR CUTE TOMBOYERINOS!!!!

Do you not realize this kind of sexual objectification and infantilization is exactly what drives women to do this in the first place? If you really wanted to “save the tomboys” you wouldn’t treat them like fuck objects that exist solely for your sexual gratification. The amount of /pol/fags that post about wanting a “TERF gf” when those women would hate your guts just serves to prove my point. You don’t really want to save the tomboys, you’re just coombrains.

That wasn't autistic at all... though I have the feeling that you're raging against an autistic machine, which is like yelling at trees for ruining your house's new coat of paint.

I don't think I've said it here, but appreciation of the aesthetic aside (and I actually mean "aesthetic appreciation", not "boyish girls make my pp hard because I crossed my wires something fierce from playing a dating sim for 50 hours"), I've considered the practical value of the subculture in helping girls explore interests outside what may be considered typical for their sex while also providing an environment where there's less/no pressure to abandon their humanity femininity. I'm being highly idealistic, certainly, but I'm of the mind that society can avoid this facet of the sex crisis through the subculture.

...boys are gonna have to be satisfied with lifting weights and dieting hard enough so they can look like Greco-Roman heroes. I don't make the rules.

The incel to troon pipeline is real.

If you consider that an incel is a failed simp, it's really a simp to troon pipeline.

Line Trap and dickgirl spam ruined an entire generation of weaboos

...an interesting theory, and not only because weeaboos are definitionally pre-ruined.