Yeah but other than rumors of him sucking a dick, he wasn't having sex in his late teens or 20's either.
I thought he was allowed to leave Mallon Place though?
He's allowed to leave for a certain number of hours per day, or an overnight stay somewhere else (usually involving staying with a family member) this requires permission from the nursing home and for them to know where he is. He has to abide by the same rules as every other nursing home resident. In short, he is required to provide a time he will return by and if he hasn't returned by then mallon place is required by law to report it to the police as a missing resident, who in turn put out whatever the alert is these days for nursing home residents that wander off or go missing. The cops have to return him to the nursing home when he's found
I've been thinking Mallon Place is banking a lot more money per resident than what is deducted from each residents check. When it 1st came out Mallon Place is an assisted living facility, someone here said assisted living facilities cost several thousand a month for a person to live in one. Lucas would not be able to afford to live in ALF. Here is the thing, Mallon is Medicaid funded facility. They likely have a monthly amt, say $3000 that they charge per resident. The facility deducts a % from each residents check and bills Medicare for the rest. In Lucas's case $744 is deducted and the facility bills Medicare for $2256.
Keep in mind Lucas is not restricted from leaving the facility. He can be out of the Mallon Place without supervision from 6 am to 11 pm. He can leave 1 day and not come back. We currently do not know if anyone has the authority to keep him from permanently leaving the facility.
He does have to inform the staff where he will be and when he'll be back. If he leaves and does not come back mallon place is required by law to inform the police, they are required to issue an alert for a missing nursing home resident and put out a search for him. This is a legal requirement for all nursing home residents. If he fails to return for any reason whatsoever he's automatically considered a missing resident and everything in relation to missing residents kicks in. This has nothing to do with lucas personally, this is the law for all nursing home residents in the US, as well as canada for that matter. Don't forget that lucas is a ward of the state as a nursing home resident. There are legal responsibilities on their part that are very different from him living on his own
I do not think he has to inform the facility where he will be or what time he'll be back. He just has to be back by 11 pm. As I said prior we currently do not know if anyone has the authority to keep him at Mallon if he doesn't want to be there. If he was there by court order, he would not be able to leave when he wanted.
Any resident who leaves a nursing home for the day for any reason has to state where they intend to go and when they expect to return. This is explicitly so they will know where to start looking if anybody fails to return or something happens
Barring a court order or maybe the doctors who've treated him declaring/signing to paper he is unable to be on his own, We do not know if he can be forced to stay at Mallon.
You don't need a court order or a doctor signing off on anything like that. No resident of a nursing home can just up and leave on the spot. They are wards of the state. You don't have the legal right to leave that easily. Assuming you're of sound mind (lucas isn't, by all accounts which is why he's there) you have to go through the process of arranging a discharge. Which given lucas's mental issues wouldn't be easy, as a guy who's plan is to leave and go live in a shelter or the bus station isn't of sound mind. But more to the point in lucas's case, he's too incompetent to even attempt to arrange a legitimate discharge (or get a lawyer to force the issue on his own). Remember we're talking about a guy who couldn't even self register for college classes with clear instructions on the website and from staff. If lucas declares his intention to be discharged, given what they know about his mental health they'll do what they usually do with residents - nod, humor him and say ok we'll get on that, and promptly forget about it. His wrangler isn't going to help him get discharged either, as they know damn well he's where he needs to be. and as has already been mentioned, he can't just wander off and never return as that ends with police involvement, a missing resident alert to the media and a shitshow that will get him into serious trouble when the cops find him, followed by being forcibly returned
A person does not become ward of the state just by being in a nursing care facility. It would take legal action to be declared as such. If he was a ward of the state, the state would have appointed him a legal guardian, responsible to see to his overall care. Now we can go back and forth on this but I don't believe he can be kept at Mallon against his will unless it's been through the court.
I didn't say he could be kept there against his will, I said he couldn't just leave so long as he is a resident, and he can't. In order to leave he has to go through the process of arranging an actual discharge before being able to leave. If he just never comes back on a day pass or somehow manages to walk out, they have to report it as an escaped resident, the cops have to get involved, he has to be returned to the nursing home, the same as any other resident and at that point there is no way they'd let him out for the day again. The issue here is whether he's too stupid to figure out how to go about arranging a discharge or whether he'd just assume someone else would do it for him, which they won't. If anything is own laziness and stupidity will either keep him there or get him into serious trouble thinking he can just take off without consequences like its a homeless shelter
I do not believe he would be reported as an escaped resident, but a missing resident. Now when the police find him and he were to tell them he voluntarily left and doesn't want to go back even to go through the process of discharge, would he be forced to go back. Or would the police just notify Mallon Place he's been found and he doesn't want to return. If he decides to bounce Mallon Place (without discharge) we'll see what happens.
Lucas would definitely assume someone would do the work of discharging him for him. That is how his cow brain works! Someone always needs to do everything for him. That is how he likes it. Have someone sign him up for college, yeet him a bae, send him doordash. What are you doing to help him, he often asks.I didn't say he could be kept there against his will, I said he couldn't just leave so long as he is a resident, and he can't. In order to leave he has to go through the process of arranging an actual discharge before being able to leave. If he just never comes back on a day pass or somehow manages to walk out, they have to report it as an escaped resident, the cops have to get involved, he has to be returned to the nursing home, the same as any other resident and at that point there is no way they'd let him out for the day again. The issue here is whether he's too stupid to figure out how to go about arranging a discharge or whether he'd just assume someone else would do it for him, which they won't. If anything is own laziness and stupidity will either keep him there or get him into serious trouble thinking he can just take off without consequences like its a homeless shelter
That said, I just came across this on yahoo:
Ozzie, the world's oldest male gorilla, found dead at Atlanta zoo. He was 61.
The world’s oldest male gorilla and the third-oldest gorilla in the world died this week.ca.news.yahoo.com
Ozzie made history in 2009, after becoming the "first gorilla in the world ever to participate in a voluntary blood pressure reading," according to the zoo. Zoo Atlanta noted that gorillas are considered geriatric after the age of 40.
Well now, that isn't good news for our resident silverback. Lucas is now considered geriatric by the chad silverback gorillas he so idolizes. He might not want to keep using that particular comparison
Now that is a story arc I wanna see; Lucas the Marxist-Age-Gap-Love-Scientist asserting his autonomy in a fight against the state apparatus of social services.
Refusing to return is frequently considered an escape, and regardless its irrelevant as it leads to the same actions being taken. If he has not been officially discharged the police are required to return him no matter what he says. No different than if he were any other resident or some dementia patient. If he says he wants to be discharged and do his own thing they'll say 'ok but thats something you have to take up with them. we have to take you back' If he gets fighty about it he gets arrested. As long as he is a registered resident he has to be returned. Doesn't matter what he says to the cops they have to treat it the same way and return him. Nor does he have a choice as to requiring a discharge. As long as he is a registered resident mallon place cannot legally allow him to leave permanently and are entirely responsible for anything that happens to him and for his actions if they fail to comply with their obligations in that regard. If he wants to leave mallon place he absolutely has to do the paperwork and get discharged. There is way too much liability involved to even consider any other course on their part. The last thing they need is the state breathing down their neck because they didn't do their job and lucas's feet rotted off under a bridge and put him in the ICU despite records stating he's supposed to be living at mallon place. Nobody is going risk jail over something like that for just so lucas can be a lazy pos
