Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

In terms of general principle I agree with you, but in lucas's case I don't believe he should be allowed to overtly abuse the system like that. All it does is reinforce his belief that society owes him and that he deserves special treatment. and more to the point, it keeps him from experiencing real consequences for his actions. If he is going to constantly fuck up his housing and support like he does he deserves to be on the street
Exactly. If this is just a ploy to get off the streets and siphon more resources from another agency. Now, how likely is it that if that is his plan, it backfires on him and the hospital decides he is actually crazy enough for a long term stay and they are successful at that? I know a little bit about how to get someone committed for a 72 hour eval, but not much about what it takes for them to stay in the mental hospital longer? A court hearing?
 
Exactly. If this is just a ploy to get off the streets and siphon more resources from another agency. Now, how likely is it that if that is his plan, it backfires on him and the hospital decides he is actually crazy enough for a long term stay and they are successful at that? I know a little bit about how to get someone committed for a 72 hour eval, but not much about what it takes for them to stay in the mental hospital longer? A court hearing?
How much does the hospital actually know about him. Lucas is a manipulator, he'll "play" the staff. If those in charge of his "treatment" at the hospital looked into his IG/FB they would know just what they are dealing with and may lead to long term confinement.
The hospital should definitely be made aware he's been banned twice from HOC for aggressive behavior, especially the incident last Friday when he blew a fuse because the nurse would not give him her phone no. and he called her a classist slut, security had to remove him from HOC.
 
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That finger is still repulsive. I hope at least the hospital gives it a look and suggests something to be done. Every time I see it I want to throw up. I can only imagine how disgusted a woman would be if Lucas tried touching her with it

I think I got the volume on the intro fixed so it's not so ear drum rupturing.
 
Lucas sits in the recreation area of the mental hospital, idly shifting Carcassonne tiles around a table. His brow furrowed as if in deep, deep concentration.

The occupational therapist approaches him,

“Morning Lucas... how are we today?”

“My classes...” he says.

“Classes?” The therapist cocks their head to their side.

“I’ve got to get to my classes. I need to do them so I can do my PhD in age gap breeding”

Lucas turns over a fresh tile, briefly staring at it before laying it down, in a way that wouldn’t be legal in the actual board game.

The therapist nods sympathetically,

“Yes Lucas. We’ll get you to your classes. Would you kindly follow me and I’ll take you there?”

Lucas grunts, rising from his seat. The scraping sounds from the chair echo in the otherwise empty rec room. He follows the therapist down the corridor, hands clasped behind his back, his eyes gazing at the floor.

Were he to look up, Lucas would have seen the sign on the door: ‘LONG TERM RESIDENTS UNIT’. He enters his padded cell, the door closing behind him.

The therapist turns to a psych nurse. He sighs,

“Ten years we’ve had him in here since his meltdown at HoC and he’s not showing any signs of progress. I was going to take him for a therapy session today, but there was just no getting through to him.”

The nurse shrugs,

“I guess when it comes to to recovery, some things just aren’t on the cards”
 
Lucas told us he doxed himself and is beyond paranoid of trolls at this point. He's stupid, but not that stupid to believe a random girl would call and give him her address..
he could just be lying or having even more delusions. why else would he say 'in my preferred age range' (or whatever he said) instead of saying 19 or something
 
How much does the hospital actually know about him. Lucas is a manipulator, he'll "play" the staff. If those in charge of his "treatment" at the hospital looked into his IG/FB they would know just what they are dealing with and may lead to long term confinement.
The hospital should definitely be made aware he's been banned twice from HOC for aggressive behavior, especially the incident last Friday when he blew a fuse because the nurse would not give him her phone no. and he called her a classist slut, security had to remove him from HOC.

Almost everyone in a psych hospital is a manipulator, and most of them are way smarter and more subtle about it than Lucas is. I guarantee you that the staff have extensive training on how to identify and manage manipulation attempts.

Long-term involuntary commitment is extremely difficult to obtain. I very seriously doubt that Lucas would qualify unless he expressed a clear and imminent threat to himself or others. And by that I mean, he'd have to explicitly say he has a plan to hurt himself or someone else, or be blatantly out of his mind with psychosis. Leaving creepy notes for zoomer baes on a college campus ain't gonna cut it.
 
Almost everyone in a psych hospital is a manipulator, and most of them are way smarter and more subtle about it than Lucas is. I guarantee you that the staff have extensive training on how to identify and manage manipulation attempts.

Long-term involuntary commitment is extremely difficult to obtain. I very seriously doubt that Lucas would qualify unless he expressed a clear and imminent threat to himself or others. And by that I mean, he'd have to explicitly say he has a plan to hurt himself or someone else, or be blatantly out of his mind with psychosis. Leaving creepy notes for zoomer baes on a college campus ain't gonna cut it.
Pretty much. Patients are gonna fight involuntary hospitalization attempts with tooth and nail, and that means getting really good at feigning normalcy. And for every Lucas Werner whose family abandoned, there are 10 mildly to severely mentally ill people who are not a threat but whose families want them involuntarily committed because they want independence. Eventually you learn that the best fighting move is not to fight.
 
Almost everyone in a psych hospital is a manipulator, and most of them are way smarter and more subtle about it than Lucas is. I guarantee you that the staff have extensive training on how to identify and manage manipulation attempts.

Long-term involuntary commitment is extremely difficult to obtain. I very seriously doubt that Lucas would qualify unless he expressed a clear and imminent threat to himself or others. And by that I mean, he'd have to explicitly say he has a plan to hurt himself or someone else, or be blatantly out of his mind with psychosis. Leaving creepy notes for zoomer baes on a college campus ain't gonna cut it.
I'd say he's already showing signs he is threat to others by his behavior toward the nurse at HOC. Or does he need to actually physically assault a woman to be considered a threat.
 
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he could just be lying or having even more delusions. why else would he say 'in my preferred age range' (or whatever he said) instead of saying 19 or something

Nope, it's real and follows the same pattern as all of his other catfish.

Whenever he gets to 'crisis mode' some 18-21 year old woman whose pictures definitely weren't stolen off a google images search magically pops up in his DMs or texts to talk about how she thinks he's hot, somehow is exactly what he's detailed he wants, and curiously has some plan to fix whatever his current crisis is, and she wants him and all his talk of "VIDEO CHAT FIRST" flies out the window and he's 1000% ready to drop everything and meet her.

And every time it's just a catfish.

He's been falling for the same thing for years, this time is no different.

Pretty much. Patients are gonna fight involuntary hospitalization attempts with tooth and nail, and that means getting really good at feigning normalcy. And for every Lucas Werner whose family abandoned, there are 10 mildly to severely mentally ill people who are not a threat but whose families want them involuntarily committed because they want independence. Eventually you learn that the best fighting move is not to fight.

He's bragged before that he's good enough at getting it together for the few minutes he has to be in front of a judge to prove he's sane and doesn't deserve/need involuntary long stays. Wouldn't surprise me if that happens this time.
 
I hope Lucas gathers the strength to throw a water fountain through a window and waddle to the polls to write in Bernie Sanders for president and have one more lunch at Gander and Ryegrass before he is rescued by this “totally real, in no way a catfish”, girl who will give him a place to live and work on his age gap breeding theory. Our democracy, nay our very republic, depends on it.
 
Pretty much. Patients are gonna fight involuntary hospitalization attempts with tooth and nail, and that means getting really good at feigning normalcy. And for every Lucas Werner whose family abandoned, there are 10 mildly to severely mentally ill people who are not a threat but whose families want them involuntarily committed because they want independence. Eventually you learn that the best fighting move is not to fight.
From my experiences, most involuntary patients will fight tooth and nail at first, and then calm down trying to be normal in order to get out. Then you have the sad few mixed in who are completely mentally gone and are hopping around psych wards every few months because the system is shit, and they sop up all the attention. Lucas continues to edge towards the latter.
He's bragged before that he's good enough at getting it together for the few minutes he has to be in front of a judge to prove he's sane and doesn't deserve/need involuntary long stays. Wouldn't surprise me if that happens this time.
Yeah, Lucas is dumb. Everyone in these fields are well trained to know better. You're not pulling fast ones on anyone. These people have seen it all, and there's tons of people smarter and more deserving than Lucas that have tried. Lucas avoids long stays because they don't think he needs them, and when medicated, I'd say he doesn't.
 
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Greetings, fellow Wernologists. Another psychiatric commitment saga is upon us, and like all things having to do with Lucas Colby Werner, it is a disappointment.

Lucas is, for the time being, in the hospital because he chooses to be. He’s treating the laughing academy like a resource, or a shelter. This isn’t uncommon.

For those of you who have never relaxed inside a mental hospital, the following may be of some interest. To get locked up for being crazy in Washington, you must be either: a) a danger to yourself, b) a danger to others, or c) gravely disabled. Lucas’s current stay is premised on suicide baiting: he would like people to believe that he is a danger to himself. He is not, and to the extent his stay in the laughing academy is based on the threat of suicide, it will be brief.

It has been discussed extensively elsewhere in this thread, but Lucas spent most of 2017 in Eastern State Hospital. This is extraordinary and unusual. Under Washington law, it takes very little for a doctor to order a 72 hour confinement. Following this period, however, it is difficult to confine a patient. A doctor may petition for a 14, 90 or 180 day stay, but each petition calls for a contested hearing, and the standard of evidence necessary to support confinement increases with each petition. Lucas did two consecutive stints in 2017, each in excess of 120 days. At the very least, a judge and a doctor did not believe that Lucas was fit to be on the street, and spent a lot of time and energy keeping him confined. That he was released was, in my opinion

Very little is known about why he was committed in 2017. Many Wernologists assumed that Lucas was a “danger to others,” specifically teen girls, and pointed to some alarming behaviors to support their claim. Lucas said in one of his videos that he was deemed “gravely disabled.” This would mean that he was in danger of serious physical harm due to his psychiatric inability or failure to provide for essential human needs like food, shelter, or medical care. For context, here are two examples of people found to be “gravely disabled” for the purposes of involuntary confinement:
  1. A 75 year old alcoholic with wet brain, who asks everyone he meets for cigarettes but is incapable of conversation, and has lost control of his bowels.
  2. A 20 year old with a profound learning disability, who suffers from auditory hallucinations, and has no caregiver or support network following the death of their mother.
 
Greetings, fellow Wernologists. Another psychiatric commitment saga is upon us, and like all things having to do with Lucas Colby Werner, it is a disappointment.

Lucas is, for the time being, in the hospital because he chooses to be. He’s treating the laughing academy like a resource, or a shelter. This isn’t uncommon.

For those of you who have never relaxed inside a mental hospital, the following may be of some interest. To get locked up for being crazy in Washington, you must be either: a) a danger to yourself, b) a danger to others, or c) gravely disabled. Lucas’s current stay is premised on suicide baiting: he would like people to believe that he is a danger to himself. He is not, and to the extent his stay in the laughing academy is based on the threat of suicide, it will be brief.

It has been discussed extensively elsewhere in this thread, but Lucas spent most of 2017 in Eastern State Hospital. This is extraordinary and unusual. Under Washington law, it takes very little for a doctor to order a 72 hour confinement. Following this period, however, it is difficult to confine a patient. A doctor may petition for a 14, 90 or 180 day stay, but each petition calls for a contested hearing, and the standard of evidence necessary to support confinement increases with each petition. Lucas did two consecutive stints in 2017, each in excess of 120 days. At the very least, a judge and a doctor did not believe that Lucas was fit to be on the street, and spent a lot of time and energy keeping him confined. That he was released was, in my opinion

Very little is known about why he was committed in 2017. Many Wernologists assumed that Lucas was a “danger to others,” specifically teen girls, and pointed to some alarming behaviors to support their claim. Lucas said in one of his videos that he was deemed “gravely disabled.” This would mean that he was in danger of serious physical harm due to his psychiatric inability or failure to provide for essential human needs like food, shelter, or medical care. For context, here are two examples of people found to be “gravely disabled” for the purposes of involuntary confinement:
  1. A 75 year old alcoholic with wet brain, who asks everyone he meets for cigarettes but is incapable of conversation, and has lost control of his bowels.
  2. A 20 year old with a profound learning disability, who suffers from auditory hallucinations, and has no caregiver or support network following the death of their mother.

I asked him in a non streamed call about the 2017 hospitalization and he told me it was because of the car background noises making fun of him so he lost it. The staff at his apartment or something came and he asked them to be taken away, something like that.
 
I asked him in a non streamed call about the 2017 hospitalization and he told me it was because of the car background noises making fun of him so he lost it. The staff at his apartment or something came and he asked them to be taken away, something like that.
Does Lucas live in a Roger Rabbitesque universe where inanimate objects have faces and can talk?

Anyone who thinks that a cow is going to be 'institutionalized' should read his thread first and understand just how hard it is.
Every few pages someone shows up demanding his family have him institutionalized with the same ease as they would order a Number 2 with some Mac Sauce.
 
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Almost everyone in a psych hospital is a manipulator, and most of them are way smarter and more subtle about it than Lucas is. I guarantee you that the staff have extensive training on how to identify and manage manipulation attempts.

Long-term involuntary commitment is extremely difficult to obtain. I very seriously doubt that Lucas would qualify unless he expressed a clear and imminent threat to himself or others. And by that I mean, he'd have to explicitly say he has a plan to hurt himself or someone else, or be blatantly out of his mind with psychosis. Leaving creepy notes for zoomer baes on a college campus ain't gonna cut it.
Yeah, let's all remember that John Bulla was left to roam around until he managed to come at a neighbor (and the neighbor's child) with a knife that he kept hanging around his neck. It was only then that he finally got the looney bin.

Anyone who thinks that a cow is going to be 'institutionalized' should read his thread first and understand just how hard it is.
 
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