Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

Does anyone see what I mean by this?

Is there such a thing as a medication that could make someone more malleable to questioning their fixed unreasonable beliefs?

I do and it is a tough nut to crack, so to speak. I'm gonna work from two assumptions: (i) Lucas has a mood disorder and (ii) Lucas has a personality disorder. Type II Bipolar and Malignant Narcissism, respectively.

Medication would improve his emotional wellbeing, if Lucas worked with a mental health team and was able to dial in effective meds with appropriate doses, we'd probably see a marked improvement in his anger management and see a huge reduction in his obsessive thinking. He'd probably be able to focus more and be less apt to misinterpret random stimuli or social situations, and have longer conversations without derailing into agephobia and class rants.

That said, emotional states are temporary but personality traits are not. The biggest factor in someone being treated successfully long term for mental illness is the amount of insight the person has about their condition. Lucas' narcissism utterly prevents any sort of insight into his own condition because he is incapable (at this point in time anyways) of comprehending how his actions have negatively impacted him. The last thing I listened to from Lucas was something about his atheism and when gets on that topic he will always bring up the Bible, how Christians don't follow it (IT IS AGAINST THE WORSHIP OF MONEY BUT YOU FUCK GUYS WITH NICE CARS AND CREDIT CARDS!), and this inevitably leads to his claim that the reason he doesn't believe in God or the Bible is because how other people have treated him. This is a super common theme with him, he isn't X because people have done Y. This is a familiar formula that he pretty much applies to everyone from family, all women, Christians, "Leftists", etc. He frames every interaction and relationship this way which is utterly destructive to his chances at ever obtaining a meaningful friend or romantic partner.

I think the shit about telomeres are more of an ad hoc justification he manufactured on his own for something he already feels deep down in his bones. I think it is a painfully obvious the entire "age-gap breeding" fantasy is him trying to appear "rational" and "evidence driven", acting more as a cover for his sexual obsessions than some kind of doctrine or ideal that appeals to him intellectually. In that sense his grand narrative about how older men are superior breeding stock is entirely epiphenomenal, a one way offshoot of his narcissism whose entire purpose is to justify why he is being systematically and grievously wronged because he isn't fucking women half his age.

There is no medication for narcissism, the only option out there is long term psychotherapy with the goal of not "curing" the narcissism but learning how to mitigate it in slow increments. Of course, the last people on earth who think they need therapy (much less long term therapy) are going to be narcissists.
 
They'll let you call people in mental hospitals.
I wonder if Lucas has been kept there so long in an attempt to find him some transitional housing. At the least, I assume he now has a case worker trying to find something for him. Poor case worker...
Oh I know but idk isn’t it weird that he would be able to call the same number over and over and leave voicemails? I thought calls would be monitored and he would only get one or two a day or something?
 
Oh I know but idk isn’t it weird that he would be able to call the same number over and over and leave voicemails? I thought calls would be monitored and he would only get one or two a day or something?
Not at all. Powerlevel: In my stay at the mental hospital, there was a crazy old hag that would search the phone book for hours searching people because she thought she was some kind of teacher and they needed to know she was locked up. They tried banning her from the phone clogging up a line but some of the nurses just stopped caring.
 
Just drop the tapes bigot
They're not mine to release, but I've heard them. I couldn't make out the first one, here's my poorly done transcription of the second:

"Hey Baby, this is Lucas Werner. I think the problem with me calling you the first time I got here is because the volume is too low on the phone. So you probably didn't hear what I was saying.

Umm, I was thinking you were trolling me but maybe not. Because if you were, I'd just put your phone number on instagram and have my buddies troll you, if you gave me your phone number and were tricking me. But I don't think you were tricking me at all. I think I just recorded the message and the volume was too low.

But here's the thing queefy-bae(sp?), you and I together, you know we create a stronger DNA child because you've seen my instagram.

You know what I'm thinking, ovulator? You know about those 7 teams working on my DNA, for transfer sperm telomeres. You know, Chris Kazawa, Dan Eisenberg, Red hunt spindal (?), some Belgium team. Of course there's Manila, there's Tokyo, Belgium... The Evanston Illinois Team. Before that there was the Harvard Team. There was the Seattle Team. Now there's a 7th team and everything I've read on Telomeres says that longer telomeres in mice gives an immunity to cancer and I want to be the Daddy to your Children.

You know I see those guys out there at the Shalom ministry, giving out food with those hot nurses, because I've seen them at H.O.C. They're thinking they're going to give they're babies stronger DNA, so they're hooking up with Gen Z.

Well Gen Z dudes ain't shit according to the Zurich study in 2015 and the... uh... uh... study from Cambridge. So we know about 35 to 55 year old dudes giving them stronger DNA.

And here we are in the middle of Covic19, I'm Gen X and you're Gen Z. Think about this a second, we're going to need stronger DNA with more immunity after a pandemic. 'Cause Spokane County is doing nothing but going up since March 14th. 0 Cases on March 14th, June 23rd 1051 Cases, July 11th 2026 Cases, July 23rd 3034 Cases.

<<It breaks up for a second>>

August 4th, Obama's Birthday, are you a Democrat Baby? I'm right here. 4059 Cases. August 22nd, 5011 Cases. September 16th, 6040 Cases. September 26th 7040 Cases. <<unintelligible>> October 10th, 8040 Cases. October 22 9017 Cases. November 1 10006 Cases. "
 
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You know what I'm thinking, ovulator? You know about those 7 teams working on my DNA, for transfer sperm telomeres. You know, Chris Kazawa, Dan Eisenberg, Red hunt spindal (?), some Belgium team. Of course there's Manila, there's Tokyo, Belgium... The Evanston Illinois Team. Before that there was the Harvard Team. There was the Seattle Team. Now there's a 7th team and everything I've read on Telomeres says that longer telomeres in mice gives an immunity to cancer and I want to be the Daddy to your Children.
This almost made me spit my drink cracking up.
So Lucas expects her to believe that seven different teams of scientists from around the globe are tirelessly working on a way to transfer his "superior" telomere DNA to others?

"Forget a cure for cancer, forget a COVID vaccine, what we need is a way to replicate and transfer the DNA of that overweight mentally ill pedophile hobo!"
 
This almost made me spit my drink cracking up.
So Lucas expects her to believe that seven different teams of scientists from around the globe are tirelessly working on a way to transfer his "superior" telomere DNA to others?

"Forget a cure for cancer, forget a COVID vaccine, what we need is a way to replicate and transfer the DNA of that overweight mentally ill pedophile hobo!"
I just couldn't get over the fact that he called a woman "Ovulator" as a pet name.
 
This almost made me spit my drink cracking up.
So Lucas expects her to believe that seven different teams of scientists from around the globe are tirelessly working on a way to transfer his "superior" telomere DNA to others?

"Forget a cure for cancer, forget a COVID vaccine, what we need is a way to replicate and transfer the DNA of that overweight mentally ill pedophile hobo!"
Is that what he’s saying? That’s how I read it at first but I feel like he has to just be talking about all the “teams of people studying telomeres” ... I didn’t think even he was that far gone as to say that he thinks people all over the world are focused on him specifically. I wouldn’t put it past him but it would be a new development.
 
"Hey Baby, this is Lucas Werner. I think the problem with me calling you the first time I got here is because the volume is too low on the phone. So you probably didn't hear what I was saying.

Umm, I was thinking you were trolling me but maybe not. Because if you were, I'd just put your phone number on instagram and have my buddies troll you, if you gave me your phone number and were tricking me. But I don't think you were tricking me at all. I think I just recorded the message and the volume was too low.

But here's the thing queefy-bae(sp?), you and I together, you know we create a stronger DNA child because you've seen my instagram.

You know what I'm thinking, ovulator? You know about those 7 teams working on my DNA, for transfer sperm telomeres. You know, Chris Kazawa, Dan Eisenberg, Red hunt spindal (?), some Belgium team. Of course there's Manila, there's Tokyo, Belgium... The Evanston Illinois Team. Before that there was the Harvard Team. There was the Seattle Team. Now there's a 7th team and everything I've read on Telomeres says that longer telomeres in mice gives an immunity to cancer and I want to be the Daddy to your Children.

You know I see those guys out there at the Shalom ministry, giving out food with those hot nurses, because I've seen them at H.O.C. They're thinking they're going to give they're babies stronger DNA, so they're hooking up with Gen Z.

Well Gen Z dudes ain't shit according to the Zurich study in 2015 and the... uh... uh... study from Cambridge. So we know about 35 to 55 year old dudes giving them stronger DNA.

And here we are in the middle of Covic19, I'm Gen X and you're Gen Z. Think about this a second, we're going to need stronger DNA with more immunity after a pandemic. 'Cause Spokane County is doing nothing but going up since March 14th. 0 Cases on March 14th, June 23rd 1051 Cases, July 11th 2026 Cases, July 23rd 3034 Cases.

<<It breaks up for a second>>

August 4th, Obama's Birthday, are you a Democrat Baby? I'm right here. 4059 Cases. August 22nd, 5011 Cases. September 16th, 6040 Cases. September 26th 7040 Cases. <<unintelligible>> October 10th, 8040 Cases. October 22 9017 Cases. November 1 10006 Cases. "

So it sounds like he had a successful stay at the nut hut and they got him all patched up, mentally healthy and ready to go?
 
Is that what he’s saying? That’s how I read it at first but I feel like he has to just be talking about all the “teams of people studying telomeres” ... I didn’t think even he was that far gone as to say that he thinks people all over the world are focused on him specifically. I wouldn’t put it past him but it would be a new development.
It looks like it.
Now even Lucas, for as nutty as he is with his own delusions, I don't think he actually believes that (yet*); but I wouldn't put it past him to lie/embellish his own beliefs to try and woo a young "ovulator".

"Hey babe, why dont you come back to my waterfront villa?" (actually a dinky apartment on a retention pond)
"Hey shawty, don't you know I'm a famous rapper?" (one time did a rap for a low-end lawyer's commercial*)
"Hey fecund ovulator, did you know there are 7 different international teams studying my powerful telomeres and superior DNA?"
 
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You know what I'm thinking, ovulator?

.....That you're just asking to get pepper sprayed and/or metoo'd by referring to women like that?

You know about those 7 teams working on my DNA, for transfer sperm telomeres. You know, Chris Kazawa, Dan Eisenberg, Red hunt spindal (?), some Belgium team. Of course there's Manila, there's Tokyo, Belgium... The Evanston Illinois Team. Before that there was the Harvard Team. There was the Seattle Team. Now there's a 7th team and everything I've read on Telomeres says that longer telomeres in mice gives an immunity to cancer and I want to be the Daddy to your Children.

So now he has 7 teams working on his telomeres. He's even more delusional than I thought if he actually believes any of that. and those 'studies' do not in any way imply that said mice will be immune to cancer. That isn't how it works. Yet again proving he has no understanding of what he is reading, he just skims it for keywords and terms he thinks support his insane nonsense

But here's the thing queefy-bae(sp?),

....What? Did he seriously call someone 'queefy bae?' Does he know what that term means? If you called a woman that to her face she would slap the shit out of you. Thats one of the most belittling and creepiest things he could call a woman

You know I see those guys out there at the Shalom ministry, giving out food with those hot nurses, because I've seen them at H.O.C. They're thinking they're going to give they're babies stronger DNA, so they're hooking up with Gen Z.

The audacity of lucas to say that with a straight face after getting booted from the shelter and ending up in a psych ward for harassing those very nurses. I know self reflection isn't a virtue of lucas very often but even for him thats a startling lack of self awareness

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It's 1:22PM in Spokane right now, I'm starting to think he won't get out today after all.

Then he likely isn't going to be released today
 
He just sent another voice mail, he says that his hearing is Friday and that he might get out Friday or next week.

He's gonna lose his shit when he gets out and finds he's still homeless because he was being catfished and the catfish may want to change their number before that assuming it's not a burner phone/number.

Lucas doesn't have "IG buddies" or any buddies, for that matter, but he'd absolutely post someone's phone number publicly and has a few thousand followers with probably a few among them who would find it funny to mess by blowing up their phone or who might try to use that number to see if they could doxx whoever it was for kicks.
 
He just sent another voice mail, he says that his hearing is Friday and that he might get out Friday or next week.
Is the phone number the Freak is calling a burner phone or is it the catfish's real number? Did he say if the hearing is with the doctors in charge of his case?
 
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