Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[WonderWino]

Wow, thanks for glimpse into your life in the first paragraph - please, tell us more about your filthy friends.

Is there any basis for you to (in a circuitous, pussyfooting manner) call Cyril a liar? The homeless staying with him, Lucas himself admitted to in one of the many 2013ish screen grabs shared here. He just didn’t specify that they were girls, because he’s a predator.

Do you have any evidence to prove any of these claims are true? No? If something sounds too good to be true it usually is. It also sounds tailor made to appeal to people who have read certain parts of this thread. I'm not buying for one single second that lucas has ever had two young girls living with him that he had drunk/drugged up. The inability to even speak to a woman coherently that he is interested in, let alone the ability to manipulate anybody to that degree is something that is a defining characteristic of lucas, going as far back as elementary school, by all accounts. Nor do the statements about myrna and not bothering to enforce a restraining order add up.

and no, I didn't call him a liar, I said i'm taking any such claims with a grain of salt, as anyone here should, especially when its lucas's supposed former roommate and a central figure in his story that is suddenly appearing out of nowhere with all this information. Has everyone forgotten what happened the last time someone showed up with insider info that everyone jumped on as automatically 100% true? Or has the dreamchaser stuff been forgotten already?

 

[IceQueen]

As you point out, I'm still close friends with Seth, so you won't get much dirt on him from me. He is, by all accounts, pretty normal and boring. He's been a teacher for going on a decade and good at what he does. Loves his job, leads a normal life, has no problem with women and is the opposite of Lucas in pretty much every way.

I would not say the same about Shawn, the oldest brother. While not even close to as unhealthy as Lucas, he has had his share of struggles. He is paralyzed on one side of his body and really bitter at the world. He's a right-winger and a gun nut, as well as a conspiracy theorist. Believes the flat Earth stuff, is a member of Qanon, thinks Bill Gates is going to implant tracking chips if you take the vaccine, etc. It probably won't come as much of a surprise to learn that I have also cut him out of my life.


Early childhood? Not really. I met him when he was 16, so that's where my side of the story starts. From what Seth has told me, they were pretty close brothers who did the normal brother stuff. Nothing out of the norm. Lucas bounced around between his Dad's and Mom's places, but I don't think there's anything too noteworthy about his early childhood. He didn't burn down the house or anything that I heard about.


No. I remember him having similar stalking problems with at least two of his former girlfriends. I know that Gina (who he dated while I was a senior in high school) was concerned about him after they broke up. And then there was another girlfriend later. There's a video of him getting into a fight here in Olympia (years after I cut him out of my life), and the things the guy is saying to him at the time suggested he was doing exactly the same thing to that guy that he did to me. Here's the video I'm talking about:

Lucas Werner - Pedo from Olympia and now available for children's parties in Spokane, WA!

Lucas Werner and his Magical Boxing Skills

www.youtube.com

To be fair, neither Lucas nor the other guy come off looking real good here. I don't know who Lucas gets into a fight with in that video. I don't think I've ever met him. That was long after I cut him out of my life, so it sounds like he found somebody else to blame and fight.

Somebody may have asked this already so apologies if this is redundant, but do you think Seth would ever be interested in providing some insight here too? I really don't care if other people on here think it's "weird" or "autistic" for us to be happy about you being here, I really appreciate what you are doing! Also -- random question about The Wizard thing... Is that from something? Like was he calling himself that for any reason, or legit just pretending to be a regular, run of the mill wizard lol

Do you have any evidence to prove any of these claims are true? No? If something sounds too good to be true it usually is. It also sounds tailor made to appeal to people who have read certain parts of this thread. I'm not buying for one single second that lucas has ever had two young girls living with him that he had drunk/drugged up. The inability to even speak to a woman coherently that he is interested in, let alone the ability to manipulate anybody to that degree is something that is a defining characteristic of lucas, going as far back as elementary school, by all accounts. Nor do the statements about myrna and not bothering to enforce a restraining order add up.

and no, I didn't call him a liar, I said i'm taking any such claims with a grain of salt, as anyone here should, especially when its lucas's supposed former roommate and a central figure in his story that is suddenly appearing out of nowhere with all this information. Has everyone forgotten what happened the last time someone showed up with insider info that everyone jumped on as automatically 100% true? Or has the dreamchaser stuff been forgotten already?

I really disagree with this way of thinking about this. To each their own and I'm sure some people agree with you, but I have absolutely zero reason to doubt Cyril and nothing he's saying sounds incorrect. He has provided some proof that he at least is who he says he is. Until we are given a reason not to believe him I don't see why we would question everything he says, that sounds like something Lucas would say -- provide PROOF on ALL CLAIMS. Nah, this seems reasonable enough to me and I appreciate him being here answering questions and giving us (a bunch of strangers) insight.

 

[Trainwreck]

If this dude is pretending to be Cyril, then he's putting in lot of effort and I don't honestly think anyone in their early 40s would waste their time making up stories about their supposed time being roommates with a cow.

 

[DefunctGames]

I can't imagine that you still have those notes laying around, but what was the basic gist of them?

Believe it or not, I DO! Back when he was leaving notes and stuff like that on my door and on my car, I had a habit of collecting everything. Y'know, just in case. All that got put away in boxes and tossed into the closet. Because of this thread, I have been going back through some of those boxes to see if I could find anything worthwhile. I haven't found the really threatening letters, but I do have the first set of post-it notes he left me. I'm going to upload all 12 of them (front and back) here.

Context: This would have been right after I cut him out of my life the first time. I stopped responding to his emails, picking up his calls or answering on instant messenger. He was getting nothing back from me for weeks, and this clearly angered him. One day, when I went out to my car, I found a series of 12 post-it notes attached to my windows. I'm not entirely sure what order these are supposed to be read, but I'm not sure that really matters. There's a lot of weird circular logic here, and it seems like what he's trying to do is make a point that everybody in the friend group is bad for each other (e.g.: Justin's problem should be with me, not Patrick; Shawn's problem should be with Patrick, not me). Note that he's not part of that circular logic in any way and doesn't seem to blame himself for anything.

Enjoy.

 

[Maxxicus Callahan]

Believe it or not, I DO! Back when he was leaving notes and stuff like that on my door and on my car, I had a habit of collecting everything. Y'know, just in case. All that got put away in boxes and tossed into the closet. Because of this thread, I have been going back through some of those boxes to see if I could find anything worthwhile. I haven't found the really threatening letters, but I do have the first set of post-it notes he left me. I'm going to upload all 12 of them (front and back) here.

Context: This would have been right after I cut him out of my life the first time. I stopped responding to his emails, picking up his calls or answering on instant messenger. He was getting nothing back from me for weeks, and this clearly angered him. One day, when I went out to my car, I found a series of 12 post-it notes attached to my windows. I'm not entirely sure what order these are supposed to be read, but I'm not sure that really matters. There's a lot of weird circular logic here, and it seems like what he's trying to do is make a point that everybody in the friend group is bad for each other (e.g.: Justin's problem should be with me, not Patrick; Shawn's problem should be with Patrick, not me). Note that he's not part of that circular logic in any way and doesn't seem to blame himself for anything.

Enjoy.

This is amazing! His handwriting hasn’t changed a whole lot nor has he gotten any less juvenile and petty. The flow chart diagram reminds me a lot like something in one of his recent videos.

 

[Krathnami]

Believe it or not, I DO! Back when he was leaving notes and stuff like that on my door and on my car, I had a habit of collecting everything. Y'know, just in case. All that got put away in boxes and tossed into the closet. Because of this thread, I have been going back through some of those boxes to see if I could find anything worthwhile. I haven't found the really threatening letters, but I do have the first set of post-it notes he left me. I'm going to upload all 12 of them (front and back) here.

Context: This would have been right after I cut him out of my life the first time. I stopped responding to his emails, picking up his calls or answering on instant messenger. He was getting nothing back from me for weeks, and this clearly angered him. One day, when I went out to my car, I found a series of 12 post-it notes attached to my windows. I'm not entirely sure what order these are supposed to be read, but I'm not sure that really matters. There's a lot of weird circular logic here, and it seems like what he's trying to do is make a point that everybody in the friend group is bad for each other (e.g.: Justin's problem should be with me, not Patrick; Shawn's problem should be with Patrick, not me). Note that he's not part of that circular logic in any way and doesn't seem to blame himself for anything.

Enjoy.

Yep that is definitely his handwriting. Thanks for sharing!

 

[ClownBrew]

These are like Chinese fortune cookies for tweakers.

 

[WonderWino]

but I have absolutely zero reason to doubt Cyril and nothing he's saying sounds incorrect

Several things he has said either do not make sense or are outright incorrect. What he said about myrna not trying to cover his ass is absolutely false. Not even debatable. We have seen multiple incidents of her doing just that, same with what he said about her blog going directly against what shes said and done. Aside from that, at the risk of repeating myself, his claims of lucas having two young girls that he had living with him that he kept drugged and/or drunk to the point of being abusable is in absolute direct contradiction to everything he has ever said or done in regards to such women. He can barely speak to them without either going off like a loon or going full shy and waddling away after a few words. No chance in hell he talked two of them into a situation like that. To say nothing of the fact keeping 2 (if not 3, as I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be partaking himself) people drugged/drunk to that degree is not cheap, and lucas doesn't have that kind of money, nor has he ever

Not to mention going through the trouble of getting a restraining order for the described actions....and then not actually enforcing it and putting a stop to the harassment that you would presumably get said order to put a stop to in the first place doesn't pass the common sense test. Nor does keeping post it notes from a psycho roommate you want nothing to do with for years, only to post them in a manner practically guaranteed to get his attention and get him going off at you again. There is something weird with this whole situation

He has provided some proof that he at least is who he says he is

Which neither proves nor disproves anything beyond who he is and is completely irrelevant

Until we are given a reason not to believe him I don't see why we would question everything he says

You have been given reasons to question it, and assuming everything is automatically true is a foolish thing to do, especially when you're talking about some very serious accusations that clearly imply drugging and raping people. Lucas or otherwise, that is not a minor accusation. To say nothing of the fact such claims are quite on the nose, to the point they come off as sounding like a too good to be true situation

that sounds like something Lucas would say -- provide PROOF on ALL CLAIMS. Nah, this seems reasonable enough to me

If this sounds reasonable to you I hope you're never on a jury. If you are going to make claims of literally drugging and raping people, yeah you better have something to back that up. Until you do its bullshit It is not a reasonable thing to assume is true simply because somebody claims it. Would lucas be willing to do such things? Probably, but he has neither the resources nor the physical ability to get a woman, let alone multiple women, into such a situation in the first place

If this dude is pretending to be Cyril, then he's putting in lot of effort

Nobody is saying he is pretending to be cyril

and I don't honestly think anyone in their early 40s would waste their time making up stories about their supposed time being roommates with a cow.

People do odd things all the time. KF is nothing if not proof of that. Dreamchaser is a prime example. People who don't want anything to do with a person don't generally keep their post it notes for decades or randomly track down threads about them to say things that will inevitably get their attention again either. Pretty strange thing to do for a person who was harassed so much the first time around that he felt he had to get a restraining order

 

[DefunctGames]

What he said about myrna not trying to cover his ass is absolutely false. Not even debatable. We have seen multiple incidents of her doing just that, same with what he said about her blog going directly against what shes said and done.

I can respect what you're saying and understand why you would be skeptical. I will address the concerns, but know that it might not be enough. As I said before, I can only speak of what I saw at the time. I already had a rocky relationship with Myrna before I kicked Lucas out and didn't really pay close attention to what she did and said after I cut him out of my life. Her blog posts, for example, were completely new to me. I mention that in a previous post. In that same post, I mention that I could be swayed by the evidence, as it does seem like she probably did cover for him throughout the years. All that is new information that I got after initially saying that she wasn't an enabler. I am fully prepared to admit that she probably did do a lot of stuff that would give you the impression that she enabled him, but that was after I cut him out of my life. I simply didn't see it.

people drugged/drunk to that degree is not cheap, and lucas doesn't have that kind of money, nor has he ever

This was an assisted living apartment complex filled with people of varying mental illnesses. If you've been around those kinds of places, then you already know that they are flooded with drugs and alcohol. It was a party scene and a lot of people were drinking and doing drugs all day and night. Buying cheap vodka is not expensive and it doesn't take much to get a couple of teenager girls pass-out drunk at a party. He had a reputation for taking homeless people in, since he was never a fan of being by himself.

Not to mention going through the trouble of getting a restraining order for the described actions....and then not actually enforcing it and putting a stop to the harassment that you would presumably get said order to put a stop to in the first place doesn't pass the common sense test.

Lucas was a close friend of mine for many years, so my feelings about him were complicated. At the time, I was hoping that the restraining order would be a wake-up call. I didn't feel in fear of my safety at the time, so the point I was trying to make with the restraining order was that I did not want contact. When he broke the order with phone calls, emails and notes, I weighed my options. I knew he was going through really tough times and lashing out, but I feared that calling the cops on him would mean that he would go to jail. At this point, I was still hoping that he would go back on his medication, and I feared that him going to jail might make his situation substantially worse. I also worried that it would make him angrier at me, to the point where he might actually become violent or do something rash (like break my car windows, etc.). I went back and forth on it, but didn't feel like harassing phone calls was enough of a reason for him to go to jail, possibly lose the little money he was getting from the government and maybe even becoming homeless. I understand why somebody from the outside looking in might think this doesn't make common sense, but friendships (even former friendships) come with complicated feelings, and I will fully admit that I may have made the wrong decision not turning him in.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

Several things he has said either do not make sense or are outright incorrect. What he said about myrna not trying to cover his ass is absolutely false. Not even debatable. We have seen multiple incidents of her doing just that, same with what he said about her blog going directly against what shes said and done. Aside from that, at the risk of repeating myself, his claims of lucas having two young girls that he had living with him that he kept drugged and/or drunk to the point of being abusable is in absolute direct contradiction to everything he has ever said or done in regards to such women. He can barely speak to them without either going off like a loon or going full shy and waddling away after a few words. No chance in hell he talked two of them into a situation like that. To say nothing of the fact keeping 2 (if not 3, as I find it hard to believe he wouldn't be partaking himself) people drugged/drunk to that degree is not cheap, and lucas doesn't have that kind of money, nor has he ever

Not to mention going through the trouble of getting a restraining order for the described actions....and then not actually enforcing it and putting a stop to the harassment that you would presumably get said order to put a stop to in the first place doesn't pass the common sense test. Nor does keeping post it notes from a psycho roommate you want nothing to do with for years, only to post them in a manner practically guaranteed to get his attention and get him going off at you again. There is something weird with this whole situation


Which neither proves nor disproves anything beyond who he is and is completely irrelevant


You have been given reasons to question it, and assuming everything is automatically true is a foolish thing to do, especially when you're talking about some very serious accusations that clearly imply drugging and raping people. Lucas or otherwise, that is not a minor accusation. To say nothing of the fact such claims are quite on the nose, to the point they come off as sounding like a too good to be true situation


If this sounds reasonable to you I hope you're never on a jury. If you are going to make claims of literally drugging and raping people, yeah you better have something to back that up. Until you do its bullshit It is not a reasonable thing to assume is true simply because somebody claims it. Would lucas be willing to do such things? Probably, but he has neither the resources nor the physical ability to get a woman, let alone multiple women, into such a situation in the first place


Nobody is saying he is pretending to be cyril


People do odd things all the time. KF is nothing if not proof of that. Dreamchaser is a prime example. People who don't want anything to do with a person don't generally keep their post it notes for decades or randomly track down threads about them to say things that will inevitably get their attention again either. Pretty strange thing to do for a person who was harassed so much the first time around that he felt he had to get a restraining order

Wino, I love you man, but this is obviously the real Cyril. I was doubtful too, but he's proven himself as far as im concerned.


In terms of the incongruous idea of Lucas being able to approach girls in the past, when he's entirely unable to do so now? Could be further proof of his deterioration. We know that Lucas has gone up to some women, heck, some of his getting tossed from homeless shelters has been based on the aggressive way he DOES approach women. So as much as Lucas has said he's never approached a woman in real life, I think that's actually hyperbole on his part.

Look at the writing on those post-it notes. That's clearly Lucas.

Feel free to keep doubting him as much as you want, but I'm casting my vote on the side of this being the real deal.

Edit: for the terminally skeptical, let's get a mod to ID Cyril once and for all, yes?

 

[DefunctGames]

Edit: for the terminally skeptical, let's get a mod to ID Cyril once and for all, yes?

I endorse this. I have nothing to hide. I signed up to Kiwi using the email address that's on every single page of Defunct Games: loser@defunctgames.com

If you go to any of my reviews (going back to 2001, when the site launched), you will find that is my contact email address. I have used the same one for 20 years. On my reviews, where it says "Cyril Lachel," it takes you straight to that email address link. You can test it for yourself. I assure you, I am who I say I am and have no reason to lie.

 

[TurdFondler]

Look at what happened to Terry A. Davis, schizophrenia slowly ate his brain. Same thing is happening to Lucas. Just because he couldn't dream of gaining a girl's trust now doesn't mean he couldn't have done it before.

These revelations paint a much fuller picture of The Wern, an incredibly sad one. I think it's pointless to try and extrapolate his past behavior based on his present state. He was on and off antipsychotics at the time and you have to keep in mind his brain was still maturing then. Who knows what his headspace was like.

It's not exactly rocket science to convince a hungry and dope sick street kid to come hang out, especially not when you're their age. There are old perverts that specifically prey on those kids, having someone younger reach out may have seemed like a better deal.

 

[AngelOfDeath]

I'm so excited yet skeptical. You did just come out of no where it seems, at a time when the wern appears to be Mia. Alot of what you say really seems to add up, but there are a few discrepancies as pointed out by others.

I have some questions, but I'd really like to just wait and hear what you have to say. It's very interesting to have one of the key secondary figures here.


If you are the real Cyril, from a long time lurker I'd like to welcome you to the farms. Where no one really cares, but everyone will listen to what you have to say.

 

[DefunctGames]

I found this amongst my high school pictures. I believe this is his senior photo, which he would have taken and given to me two years after I graduated. This is probably the most normal I've ever seen him. I scanned it at 300 dpi, just in case you want to print it out for some reason.

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

I found this amongst my high school pictures. I believe this is his senior photo, which he would have taken and given to me two years after I graduated. This is probably the most normal I've ever seen him. I scanned it at 300 dpi, just in case you want to print it out for some reason.

I love his "Moe" hairdo.

You numbskulls.

 

[ClownBrew]

I endorse this. I have nothing to hide. I signed up to Kiwi using the email address that's on every single page of Defunct Games: loser@defunctgames.com

If you go to any of my reviews (going back to 2001, when the site launched), you will find that is my contact email address. I have used the same one for 20 years. On my reviews, where it says "Cyril Lachel," it takes you straight to that email address link. You can test it for yourself. I assure you, I am who I say I am and have no reason to lie.

Pro tip-- there are certain members on this thread whose own sanity levels are not swift. They will try to derail everything you ever post with negging and long winded bait from hell if you challenge one word they say.

Like an absolute sperger king I used to walk straight into the trap of bickering back...until I realized who was who. Ever since then my experience here has been far more pleasant.

 

[37yearolddickrightnow]

It's not exactly rocket science to convince a hungry and dope sick street kid to come hang out, especially not when you're their age. There are old perverts that specifically prey on those kids, having someone younger reach out may have seemed like a better deal.

And you also gotta remember Wern was what? Late teens/early 20's in this timeline? His creep level was in all likelihood a fraction of what it is present day. I can buy it.

 

[WonderWino]

Wino, I love you man, but this is obviously the real Cyril.

I never said he wasn't the real cyril, nor do I have any reason to doubt that he is. My issue is with the claims of certain things lucas has supposedly done, not who he is

In terms of the incongruous idea of Lucas being able to approach girls in the past, when he's entirely unable to do so now? Could be further proof of his deterioration

If anything the exact opposite has to be the case. Lucas's inability to approach and difficulty with women goes back as far as early elementary school, as even his own mother confirmed. Its been his most defining characteristic and if fundamental to how his life long love quest has tormented him for so long. Sure, he pushes a bit from time to time with the starbucks note or tries to get over it on occasion, which inevitably ends up with him either coming off as weird and off putting or screaming at the woman. There is clearly something missing in this regard

Look at the writing on those post-it notes. That's clearly Lucas.

Never said it wasn't lucas's writing, I said it was an odd thing to do to keep those kinds of things around if you want nothing to do with the person and have no intention of having any contact with them due to past incidents

I can respect what you're saying and understand why you would be skeptical. I will address the concerns, but know that it might not be enough. As I said before, I can only speak of what I saw at the time. I already had a rocky relationship with Myrna before I kicked Lucas out and didn't really pay close attention to what she did and said after I cut him out of my life. Her blog posts, for example, were completely new to me. I mention that in a previous post. In that same post, I mention that I could be swayed by the evidence, as it does seem like she probably did cover for him throughout the years. All that is new information that I got after initially saying that she wasn't an enabler. I am fully prepared to admit that she probably did do a lot of stuff that would give you the impression that she enabled him, but that was after I cut him out of my life. I simply didn't see it.

If thats the case I suggest reading through the posts about her in this thread, as her actions become quite clear in that regard

This was an assisted living apartment complex filled with people of varying mental illnesses. If you've been around those kinds of places, then you already know that they are flooded with drugs and alcohol. It was a party scene and a lot of people were drinking and doing drugs all day and night. Buying cheap vodka is not expensive and it doesn't take much to get a couple of teenager girls pass-out drunk at a party. He had a reputation for taking homeless people in, since he was never a fan of being by himself.

That doesn't really address the issue at all. It goes without saying that such an apartment complex is full of such people and the drugs, alcohol and such that follow them around. Again, the issue is lucas's defining characteristic has always been his complete and utter inability to say anything to a woman he has any interest in that doesn't either end with him going psycho on them or not knowing what to say and quickly ending the conversation. Where is is doesn't really matter in that regard. There could be a hundred vulnerable women there and it still requires speaking to them at some point to get them to do anything with him. Its why he makes his videos, posts his insane attraction signs and spent years putting out literal free candy to try to lure women in. So i'm sure you can understand how the idea of lucas going from being like that to suddenly inviting over multiple women that somehow don't realize what a creep he is to the point he is able to drug/get them drunk and then back to not being able to do more than pass notes and put up traps/attraction signs seems counter intuitive to his demonstrated behavior

Lucas was a close friend of mine for many years, so my feelings about him were complicated. At the time, I was hoping that the restraining order would be a wake-up call. I didn't feel in fear of my safety at the time, so the point I was trying to make with the restraining order was that I did not want contact. When he broke the order with phone calls, emails and notes, I weighed my options. I knew he was going through really tough times and lashing out, but I feared that calling the cops on him would mean that he would go to jail. At this point, I was still hoping that he would go back on his medication, and I feared that him going to jail might make his situation substantially worse. I also worried that it would make him angrier at me, to the point where he might actually become violent or do something rash (like break my car windows, etc.). I went back and forth on it, but didn't feel like harassing phone calls was enough of a reason for him to go to jail, possibly lose the little money he was getting from the government and maybe even becoming homeless. I understand why somebody from the outside looking in might think this doesn't make common sense, but friendships (even former friendships) come with complicated feelings, and I will fully admit that I may have made the wrong decision not turning him in.

If that is the case I have to ask why exactly you're tempting fate by revealing such things now. After all, such revelations will reach lucas at some point and there is a good chance he will revert to his previous behavior and start harassing you. I can't imagine you would want to go through that again

By the way, you mentioned lucas having that failed grow op in his closet, but that you didn't know anything about it for some time. Lucas claims it was essentially everyone being involved in it and he kept an eye on it or something to that effect. Which does make more sense. I have to ask how it can be that someone could bring the lighting, pots, soil, etc... and set it up in a closet without somebody noticing it being done. I mean it is an apartment. I've done that myself and I can't imagine being able to hide it from two people in my house, let alone in an apartment. Even if thats the case I would think the higher power bill would raise some questions rather quickly

Pro tip-- there are certain members on this thread whose own sanity levels are not swift. They will try to derail everything you ever post with negging and long winded bait from hell if you challenge one word they say.

Like an absolute sperger king I used to walk straight into the trap of bickering back...until I realized who was who. Ever since then my experience here has been far more pleasant.

If that is supposed to be a passive aggressive attack on me for pointing out that lucas has admitted, repeatedly, as has his mother that he is schizophrenic - something his own actions, videos and posts bear out, you need to stop acting like a nutcase. Holy shit

 

[wenttobermuda]

I am disappointed that nobody has asked @DefunctGames about Lucas's legendary body odor: piss and onions. And also, just to be clear, having read Lucas's account of their relationship, it seems he very badly wanted to snatch Michele away from Cyril. Lucas's fabled desire to "swoop" another man's bae, thereby demonstrating his power, was fully formed by this period.

We now know of three incidents where Lucas was the subject of a restraining order. While the particulars justifying the orders vary (domestic violence with Suzanne, stalking Cyrus) they all point to one of Lucas's characteristic problems: boundaries. He does not recognize them, and when they are brought to his attention, he does not respect them.

The story about Lucas burning his belongings after failing to sell them to his neighbors is priceless, comic in an ugly way. @DefunctGames relates that Lucas decided that he would move to California. To fund, and simplify his trip, he tried to sell his things other disabled folks on fixed incomes. We can only imagine how well planned and executed his sale was, and what treasures he offered at what price points, but bear in mind that Lucas once tried to sell a silly t-shirt design for $1 million. When the sales didn't materialize, Lucas petulantly burned his shit. Turned the yard sale into a bonfire. He didn't get the money he wanted for his trip, and found himself still in WA but now with less stuff, but the fire must've nonetheless been tremendously satisfying for him, in the way that petty acts of spite often are.

It reads like a scene from his super villain origin story. If wish we could flesh it out more.

My favorite, though, is the story about Lucas and the $100. Lucas has a payee and is seemingly incapable of making responsible financial decisions. We now know that this is not a recent development. His relationship with money is a good way to measure his ability to plan and function, even prior to his break down. Dead broke and given $100 by his mother to satisfy a debt, he spends it all on fast food that he doesn't even get around to eating. Of course it was food (might as well have been weed), but this story has it all: impulsive self-gratification, waste, irresponsibility, selfishness, and it's gross.

 

[Thomas Highway]

a lot of autism