Artcow Luna Tiny / Sara Elizabeth O'Hern / Anonymous-Asexual / AnonymousArtist - Fake troon, fake asexual, possible art thief

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TheGreatCitracett said:
This is a thread I'd follow, I posted a bunch of her stuff in the bad webcomics thread. Here's one that's particularly vile:
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Fuck you mom, and fuck you dad! Your nasty ungrateful daughter is back from college with her shiny new degree in gender studies!
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If you're trans and act like a smug asshole when people don't mean to mess up your pronouns then you don't deserve the respect you think you're entitled to. Luna would be such an insufferable person to know irl.
 
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Jean_Porte said:
She has a thread on BadWebcomics Tapatalk (archive). There's a member on this thread XL_Man_In_An_XS_Coat, who knew Luna IRL :

By the way, there's her twitch : https://twitch.tv/anonymousartistluna she streams a lot and I watched some of them, it's pretty boring with shitty unlicensed music while slowly seeing the process of her arts.
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>went to art college
>still draws disproportionate baby arms that are clearly the result of drawing the head first and then forcing everything else to fit in the frame instead of using the transform tool, or better yet by making a full body rough the first fucking time

And she thinks $20,000 a month is a reasonable price tag for that shoddy work? Lol.
 
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One Man Bland said:
>went to art college
>still draws disproportionate baby arms that are clearly the result of drawing the head first and then forcing everything else to fit in the frame instead of using the transform tool, or better yet by making a full body rough the first fucking time

And she thinks $20,000 a month is a reasonable price tag for that shoddy work? Lol.
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I think the hands are what kill me the most about her art---even if the piece is lined and colored and shit and you realize "oops, fucked up the hands" you can still go back and fix it with the digital tools you're already using. Unless she's drawing those tiny-ass chicken wing hands on purpose and thinks they're absolutely flawless, which honestly wouldn't surprise me.
 
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One Man Bland said:
>went to art college
>still draws disproportionate baby arms that are clearly the result of drawing the head first and then forcing everything else to fit in the frame instead of using the transform tool, or better yet by making a full body rough the first fucking time

And she thinks $20,000 a month is a reasonable price tag for that shoddy work? Lol.
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Maybe that’s how much they need to pay off all those student loans. Lord knows they weren’t admitted with art scholarships lol
 
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Blood Debts said:
I think the hands are what kill me the most about her art---even if the piece is lined and colored and shit and you realize "oops, fucked up the hands" you can still go back and fix it with the digital tools you're already using. Unless she's drawing those tiny-ass chicken wing hands on purpose and thinks they're absolutely flawless, which honestly wouldn't surprise me.
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[:powerlevel:] I did draw like her few years ago, sometimes you don't even know what you're doing and you think you're doing good when you just do shit, when you don't use models you only count on your memory and that's a bad habit that a lot of beginners do. As well beginner artists tend to not dezoom their canvas and can't really see mistakes proportions.
Digital art is really particular, it's very different from paper and your skills kind of depend of the software, the tablet you use as well as settings/brushs. My skills get much better when I learned to use SAI properly for example. [/:powerlevel:]

Most of her stuff are from speed paint or streams and she streams a lot, because of that she doesn't take the time to see what's wrong and prefer skipping for the sake of twitch's views and people who watch her are not really good artists themselves or don't draw at all, she never get advice other than "UR ART IS SO GOOD", and when the 50 notes on Tumblr are telling you're good, you kinda think that's true and you never get out of your comfort zone.

One Man Bland said:
>went to art college
>still draws disproportionate baby arms that are clearly the result of drawing the head first and then forcing everything else to fit in the frame instead of using the transform tool, or better yet by making a full body rough the first fucking time

And she thinks $20,000 a month is a reasonable price tag for that shoddy work? Lol.
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Too asexual to see naked people and learn their anatomy uwu
 
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Jean_Porte said:
[:powerlevel:] I did draw like her few years ago, sometimes you don't even know what you're doing and you think you're doing good when you just do shit, when you don't use models you only count on your memory and that's a bad habit that a lot of beginners do. As well beginner artists tend to not dezoom their canvas and can't really see mistakes proportions.
Digital art is really particular, it's very different from paper and your skills kind of depend of the software, the tablet you use as well as settings/brushs. My skills get much better when I learned to use SAI properly for example. [/:powerlevel:]

Most of her stuff are from speed paint or streams and she streams a lot, because of that she doesn't take the time to see what's wrong and prefer skipping for the sake of twitch's views and people who watch her are not really good artists themselves or don't draw at all, she never get advice other than "UR ART IS SO GOOD", and when the 50 notes on Tumblr are telling you're good, you kinda think that's true and you never get out of your comfort zone.



Too asexual to see naked people and learn their anatomy uwu
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Not too asexual for vore though.
 
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So today I found a twitter account with the same hair as toothpaste. Just giggle a bit.
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Jean_Porte said:
[:powerlevel:] I did draw like her few years ago, sometimes you don't even know what you're doing and you think you're doing good when you just do shit, when you don't use models you only count on your memory and that's a bad habit that a lot of beginners do. As well beginner artists tend to not dezoom their canvas and can't really see mistakes proportions.
Digital art is really particular, it's very different from paper and your skills kind of depend of the software, the tablet you use as well as settings/brushs. My skills get much better when I learned to use SAI properly for example. [/:powerlevel:]

Most of her stuff are from speed paint or streams and she streams a lot, because of that she doesn't take the time to see what's wrong and prefer skipping for the sake of twitch's views and people who watch her are not really good artists themselves or don't draw at all, she never get advice other than "UR ART IS SO GOOD", and when the 50 notes on Tumblr are telling you're good, you kinda think that's true and you never get out of your comfort zone.
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Pretty much. Though to add to this point, I think one thing that a lot of these artists is a lack of self-critical skills on their part. They never dezoom or look at references because they have zero doubt that they’re doing good.

Interestingly, a lot of beginner artists (most often kids) can be much more ambitious compared to their more seasoned counterparts just because they haven’t developed the self critiquing skills to recognize their limitations. As a result you see a lot of them do super unconventional compositions, poses, and foreshortening - even if objectively it’s not very good on a technical level.

What separates the beginner artists from the mediocre ones is that the beginners who go on to improve and expand their skill sets don’t lose that ambition, they simply refine it. Looking through those speed paints, the biggest indicator of her entire process in this video here:

Notice how in the face grab panel she starts off with two poses that are much more dynamic and visually interesting before giving up and going with one that’s stiffer but is within her comfort zone? That’s a hallmark of mediocre artists.

There’s also that artists obsessed with sport paints tend to develop habits that are more about being fast rather than working on getting something correct, since speed paints tend to give people the impression that popular artists must get it right the first time rather than them being seasoned at practicing or that there’s a select few who can draw a whole scene freehand just by eyeballing the proportions. On top of Tumblr in general just giving overall bad advice that tends to degrade through a game of online telephone where “red-lining over photos to get a feel for anatomy is fine so long as you aren’t tracing over shit to pass it off as your own work” devolves into “tracing is good.”

Of course the most glaring part of this is that Luna supposedly went to college for all of this, yet still draws uncritically while making rookie mistakes like using the circle reference completely wrong, not revising the roughs, and shading with fucking black. I sweat Luna is like Andrew Dobson’s long lost sister - right down to the fetish shit.
 
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One Man Bland said:
Pretty much. Though to add to this point, I think one thing that a lot of these artists is a lack of self-critical skills on their part. They never dezoom or look at references because they have zero doubt that they’re doing good.

Interestingly, a lot of beginner artists (most often kids) can be much more ambitious compared to their more seasoned counterparts just because they haven’t developed the self critiquing skills to recognize their limitations. As a result you see a lot of them do super unconventional compositions, poses, and foreshortening - even if objectively it’s not very good on a technical level.

What separates the beginner artists from the mediocre ones is that the beginners who go on to improve and expand their skill sets don’t lose that ambition, they simply refine it. Looking through those speed paints, the biggest indicator of her entire process in this video here:

Notice how in the face grab panel she starts off with two poses that are much more dynamic and visually interesting before giving up and going with one that’s stiffer but is within her comfort zone? That’s a hallmark of mediocre artists.

There’s also that artists obsessed with sport paints tend to develop habits that are more about being fast rather than working on getting something correct, since speed paints tend to give people the impression that popular artists must get it right the first time rather than them being seasoned at practicing or that there’s a select few who can draw a whole scene freehand just by eyeballing the proportions. On top of Tumblr in general just giving overall bad advice that tends to degrade through a game of online telephone where “red-lining over photos to get a feel for anatomy is fine so long as you aren’t tracing over shit to pass it off as your own work” devolves into “tracing is good.”

Of course the most glaring part of this is that Luna supposedly went to college for all of this, yet still draws uncritically while making rookie mistakes like using the circle reference completely wrong, not revising the roughs, and shading with fucking black. I sweat Luna is like Andrew Dobson’s long lost sister - right down to the fetish shit.
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Her parents must be happy having wasted potentially tens of thousands of dollars to have her go to an art school just for her to have nearly grasped nothing.

Most artist, even those in a professional setting use references in art. More so when there's a pose they can't get right. Luna could have easily asked her mom to do that pose with her while her dad or other family member/friend took a picture of it. References are your friend. More so since art classes tend to have beginners start with still lifes and even photo references to help teach proportions, shading, and highlighting. I don't know if it's different for a digital art class, but in a traditional setting it's usually done like that.

A lot of her shading, highlighting, blush and just general color work is pretty poor. Shading with black isn't a no no since there are ways to do it correctly, however this isn't an example of that. It's the general idea that all shadows are black. There's good examples of hard black shadows making something pop (All Might from My Hero Academia) and then it's dirty shading/smudging technique done by very beginners. She doesn't have the skills or knowledge yet to work properly with black shading. She uses the standard black, white and red beginner's set for shading, blush, and highlights. Gives her hair that standard single curved line of shine that makes it look metallic and tends to keep bright unsaturated colors in.

She has so many mistakes for someone who supposedly went to a college of art that someone who's been in only a few college art classes
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can point out. Is there any proof she went to an art college? If so I feel like she might have just gone to a school with a poor fine art academic that it let her pass.
 
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