Lunduke: Use Firefox? Mozilla Says it Can Use Your Data However it Wants

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Closest I can think of are Pale Moon (FF28 maintained by a lone furfag last I checked) Otter (Opera 12 clone that uses WebKit) and NetSurf (most notable for running on 9front and RISC-OS.)
Everything else uses either Mozilla's Gecko or Google's Blink.

I use Cromite, although it seems to only other "privacy browser" for android (besides TOR) is Thor.
Fennec exists, which is a privacy-based fork of Firefox mobile, and you can also further harden it like with vanilla Firefox.

Still, it is giving me some schadenfreude watching Mozilla get ass-blasted by angry people on their forum in the wake of their latest decision.

No software company can resist the lure of enshittification forever, I guess.
 
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Mozilla has been a bucket of shit since at least 2014. Its an active antifa, anti-White organization propped up by Google money.
The discourse around it is what is actually interesting. You have endless legions of fags online coping and seething whenever someone says you should move to something different (usually Brave).

The "nooooooo don't use a chromium reskin" argument has always been incredibly flimsy to me. The implication is that doing so allows Google to dictate terms to independent web devs.
Where is the proof of this? Where is the proof that say, Brave, has to follow whatever Google does because they use a Chromium base?
I don't see much, at all. In fact, I do see Brave making all kinds of changes, such as keeping manifest v2 alive and straight up inserting their own ablocker as well.
I also see Firefox not doing shit, because who gives a fuck what they do at 2-5% marketshare?

So literally just use Brave, you're not "damaging the web" or any of that insane cope. If you're absolutely dead-set on not using it though, use Zen or something. Librewolf already came out with a rant against Lunduke and "fascists", so you're not welcome there either.

I do want to see both servo and ladybird be successful though. Turns out the years (decades) worth of gaslighting from moztrannies that "nooooo you CANT just make a new engine, you HAVE to use firefox!" was wrong, and you can in fact just do things.
 
Firefox is still the best browser. Learn to configure it with user.js before you switch to some shitware like Brave, Opera, or Ungoogled Chromium.
I can get 90% of the way by just switching to another software. Not even switching to chromium.

Not everyone even wants to be a power user.
Mozilla can kindly fuck off.

The implication is that doing so allows Google to dictate terms to independent web devs.
As if they didn't already. And mozilla WILL cuck on anything the powers that be say, like with the DRM extensions.
So literally just use Brave, you're not "damaging the web" or any of that insane cope.
To link back to the other post. Brave will be, on default settings, a better option than Firefox is on default settings. Yes you can user.js your way into making default-firefox into something better than chrome but even power users won't bother a lot of the time if just switching gets you most of the way there.
 
The only thing really keeping me on firefox is the way history is stored. like any page you visit is only recorded in firefox history once and is way easier to manually manage. in chromium-based browsers, a single page could end up having several entries and it makes managing it way more painful. Before you say just clear it all, there's a bunch of shit I want to be able to find easily but not keep as bookmarks. also I clearing history even without clearing cache or cookies still logs me out of sites (at least it does this in firefox) and I like being lazy and still signed into shit.
 
The only thing really keeping me on firefox is the way history is stored. like any page you visit is only recorded in firefox history once and is way easier to manually manage. in chromium-based browsers, a single page could end up having several entries and it makes managing it way more painful. Before you say just clear it all, there's a bunch of shit I want to be able to find easily but not keep as bookmarks. also I clearing history even without clearing cache or cookies still logs me out of sites (at least it does this in firefox) and I like being lazy and still signed into shit.
That's one of the many reasons chrom-anything will never be a viable alternative for anyone that used a browser before Google decided to shift away from traditional, sane paradigms from 2008 onwards, and every derivative is just going to have to catch up patching every retarded decision they settle their mind on ("them" being jewgle alone, true scum even among other corpos), and that no free contributors could ever possibly keep up to date with within a reasonable time (ungoogled would very often be severely out of date years ago with exploits being used in the wild.. what are you going to do, stop using it for a week or two?). History grouping is one such "feature", I would love to know if there is one person on this planet that uses that feature effectively, and what their thought process is. They're opinionated for the lowest common denominator user that does not have a basic understanding of basic, decades-old technology patterns (not necessarily their fault, as those same companies always try to take that knowledge away from them), with dozens of millions of lines of code under the hood unmaintainable by anyone but them. Most importantly, using any engine coming off KHTML (mercy its soul long twisted and corrupted by soydevs and pajeets) is encouraging webshitters to only design their pages for those browsers alone that account for.. yeah, that's about >90% market share. The march of tyranny will continue to the bottom. It's a shame luakit-like approaches are unfeasible.
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Regardless of what firefox does I feel like most of us won't escape it anyways. I'm making my post right now on the forums through the Tor Browser (which is firefox). You could post on kiwifarms with brave + Tor but I believe even brave recommends you just use Tor if you truly believe you need the privacy (I might be remembering this wrong feel free to skewer me if I did get it wrong.).
 
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So they updated the license to say... Exactly the same as before!
An exercise in corpospeech and gaslight.

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The ride never ends and the she/her troon running Librewolf decided to have a huge meltdown regarding Lunduke and how woke "her" project is.
 
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I guess you could use Lynx and retvrn to text-only HTML like it’s 1993.
I could even browse and shitpost here with it until kiwiflare went up (which, unlike haproxy, doesn't have a noscript fallback).
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So they updated the license to say... Exactly the same as before!
An exercise in corpospeech and gaslight.

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The ride never ends and the she/her troon running Librewolf decided to have a huge meltdown regarding Lunduke and how woke "her" project is.
Man, there really is no way out for a Gecko appreciator, isn't there?
 
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Is there any reason to not use Brave? Literally everyone I know has switched to it after I showed them it, friends, family, coworkers. Both PC and mobile. As far as I can tell chromium apps are more widespread than Firefox's too.
Not to mention I haven't had a single ad on jewtube for years even with all of the other adblockers running into problems...
 
To link back to the other post. Brave will be, on default settings, a better option than Firefox is on default settings. Yes you can user.js your way into making default-firefox into something better than chrome but even power users won't bother a lot of the time if just switching gets you most of the way there.
Honestly, I fully expect a person who cares about their privacy to "power user" their way into making a situation better. If we want to get into the nit-picky of it, installing a user.js in Firefox is easier than switching to another browser. It's a drag and drop. You also don't even need to make your own a la Arkenfox. Betterfox (The one I linked to) gets the job done for most people.
 
Where is the proof of this? Where is the proof that say, Brave, has to follow whatever Google does because they use a Chromium base?
The proof is that once the market share of browser usage goes 100% to Chromium based browsers, the entire ecosystem of how website are written and interacted with changes. For example the move to Manifest V3 and the attempt by Google to disable adblocking in Chrome by forcing everyone to update to Manifest V3.

If there's only one browser that any website has to work on, then it's easy for those that control the development of that browser to dictate how that browser will work in the future, and because there's no alternative option - that means the entire internet will have to follow.
 
Just disable the telemetry and all the other bullshit from Firefox with Betterfox?
Is is not just soooo curious that when Chrome, Chromium or any other browser whatsoever gets caught secreting spyware/malware, the usual fanboys have all shat themselves in unison, broke out the pitchforks'n'torches, and hastened into meltdown mode...yet when the darling of the browsers get exposed doing the exact same thing, it's time to break out the 'pussy passes' for the beloved Firefox!

You betcha! No recriminations allowed! Just focus on how to circumvent that which should never needed circumventing....if Firefox was what these cheerleaders have long claimed it to be! Very reminiscent of the M$ fanboys that would start frothing at the lips if any other OS (or even a lowly app) had been caught with a surreptitiously embedded keylogger, yet Win 10? "Fuhgeddaboudit"!
 
I use Librewolf and I've noticed Firefox starting on its own, using some disk power and 50 MBs of RAM. Mind you, it isn't in the startup applications tab of task manager. Fuck you, Mozilla.
 
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