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Power Glove said:
Am I the only one who wishes they would bring back those Duels of the Planeswalkers games? At least the ones before the last game they released in the series. Just buy the game, play it, unlock the decks. Challenges were fun, and the premade decks were pretty decent. They didn't cost too much, which considering how much physical or MTG Arena sets you back, was a nice change.
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I highly recommend checking out Shandalar, the old PC game. I played it again recently and it still is a good time; with mods, you can even add tons of cards through ManaLink 3.0 and the AI is better than Sparky. This is true patrician MTG.
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Retink said:
Looking at what Double Masters spoiled so far, am I the only one who thinks Wizards has become creatively bankrupt?
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2X2 is a set of only reprints, not a lot of room for creativity. Bringing back some old artists has me very hype, the almost $400 price tag does not. I lucked out and decided to pre-order back when it was $225 on Amazon, so I'm locked in though I may just resell the sealed boxes and buy the singles I want at this point. I need the new Smothering Tithe for my George Boros EDH deck.
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There's a face underneath the card text, I love it.
 
SilenceIsViolence said:
Bringing back some old artists has me very hype, the almost $400 price tag does not.
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Yeah, allocation seems pretty fucked and some stores (who just got burned real fucking hard on a commander legends set that was closer to conspiracy) snipped their preorders to relist to cover costs.

I might draft it a bit, since apparently they make your first pick in any given pack 2 cards (in case you get 2 fat dollar bills).
 
Flexo said:
"We, the makers of a children's card game, are super upset that there will now be more children!"
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Man, I'm generally pretty pro-abortion and my eyes rolled over at the sight of that thing, shit's retarded the company makes manchild products who the fuck cares that it didn't put out a retarded statement, it literally doesn't make or affect laws in any way so who the fuck cares
 
Stab You in the Back said:
I'm expecting more Timespiral Remastered-type shenanigans with allocations randomly dropping on Amazon over the next three months so WotC can sell boxes higher than retail.
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It's possible that could happen, but I'm not sure it would be the best move for Wizards of the Coast. Timespiral Remastered was a bit of a flop, and I don't think they would want to risk another failed product. Plus, with so many other products coming out in the next few months (including some highly anticipated ones), I'm not sure they would want to take attention away from those by randomly releasing boxes of Masters 25 or whatever else at a higher than retail price.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
Baldur's Gate is probably one of the biggest failed products they have on their books at the moment, and it's purely because they decided to jack up the price for no reason at all.
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It's hard to say whether or not Baldur's Gate was a failed product. It certainly didn't meet the expectations that were set for it, but it still sold reasonably well and has a dedicated fan base. The problem wasn't necessarily the price, but rather the value proposition. At $60, Baldur's Gate was simply too expensive for what it offered. A more reasonable price point would have been around $40, which would have made it much more attractive to potential buyers.
 
Samson Pumpkin Jr. said:
It's hard to say whether or not Baldur's Gate was a failed product. It certainly didn't meet the expectations that were set for it, but it still sold reasonably well and has a dedicated fan base. The problem wasn't necessarily the price, but rather the value proposition. At $60, Baldur's Gate was simply too expensive for what it offered. A more reasonable price point would have been around $40, which would have made it much more attractive to potential buyers.
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I assume you're talking about the fat packs, which yeah, I actually kind of like commander legends 2 a little, and debated getting a fat pack (because I don't quite need a whole box - especially when I got the 2 most expensive cards out of the first 4 random packs I bought), but when it's 60!? For 40 more dollars you can go ahead and get a whole box of packs. At last the previous $60 fat packs were "fancy" ones that had at least 1 collectors booster in them to marginally justify the price.

Samson Pumpkin Jr. said:
Timespiral Remastered was a bit of a flop, and I don't think they would want to risk another failed product.
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I was around for original Time Spiral and even have a bit of fondness for it, but I still could not understand the reasoning for this "remastered" set.

I guess they were attempting to see about remasters replacing master sets as reprint products?

Everything about it seems weird and wrong. With Kamigawa neon dynasty releasing I could understand a Kamigawa Remaster set releasing. It would have given players a kind of tie-in to new and old related to a plane, which would have worked especially well given there was such a divergence between the original and return. I could see likewise Time Spiral remastered being released closer to when we returned to Dominaria (since TS was the last big block dominaria set). But release when it did? I still don't get it.
 
Flexo said:
For 40 more dollars you can go ahead and get a whole box of packs.
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A box of 18 as opposed to 30, yeah.

The draft format is fun, but people aren't buying them, man. Game stores are eating the losses pretty hard on this one.
You either hit the dragons, lands, or puzzlebox, or you get screwed. A set box, of 18, is $5 a pack. A set box of New Capenna is 30 at $3 a pack.
 
Samson Pumpkin Jr. said:
It's hard to say whether or not Baldur's Gate was a failed product. It certainly didn't meet the expectations that were set for it, but it still sold reasonably well and has a dedicated fan base.
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The biggest flaw in the product was calling it "Commander Legends" which nobody has a solid definition on. If we think of it as a Core Commander set of sorts, I think it's really fantastic, but launching it at the premium price point killed it. I drafted it 3 times and each one was a blast, it really does work well - working on taking the cards from it and making it into a set commander cube and I think it will work even better with some of the duds removed. DnD has become the casual nerd game so it makes sense to release a semi-casual commander set alongside it - however, the loud mtg internet warriors don't stand for anything less than perfection and shat on the set since previews, spiraling down excitement and hurting LGS inventory.

I'm not saying it's top tier, but I am saying it's way overly hated, which in turn created more hatred and less sales for the set.
 
SilenceIsViolence said:
I'm not saying it's top tier, but I am saying it's way overly hated, which in turn created more hatred and less sales for the set.
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It didn't help that it leaked that Mana Drain was in the set and then was bumped over to Double Masters, which is itself like 75% commander cards. If the only thing about Commander Legends is that it has the commander draft format, that's fine - but charging a premium when so much of the set is just not worth much at all is what's sinking it.

I'm also of the opinion that where the original Legends had a lot of really fun and interesting cards that played around (sometimes a bit much) with the format, this one was mostly dry. Initiative being an upgraded monarch is cool, but monarch is also super easy to remember without the stupid help card.
I'mma real anime gurl said:
Fire the fucker who made set boosters and collector boosters
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literally why, they've driven the price of everything through the floor because whales chase after the one card in a collector booster worth $400 and everything else is dirt cheap. Set boosters do the same thing to a lesser degree, while also trickling up old reprints through the list

Buying packs is for gamblers, drafters, and retards so why not make everyone happy? Shredder, Hearse, Fable, and other chase rares would be just as expensive if everything was draft, if not more, and the sheer variety of cool-ass alternate arts won me over on sets I thought I would otherwise despise
 
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