Marijan Š Šiklić Article

[4Macie]

My concern with pointed wordchoice in an article is that it doesn't reflect reality sometimes.

In ED articles will often say "is a rapist" with zero evidence and not indication of what it refers to. Often times it will link to an article that says the exact opposite, like "I like rapeplay but only with consent" and then it just infers from that that the person is a rapist. Both of these instances are far less interesting than something like Dobson's page where it calls him an inflationist (not really a bad thing when compared to an actual rapist) but it's funny because there's actual evidence and art to back it up.

I'd rather have articles be like Kengle's where there's not much going on with him but that are still interesting because everything about it is verifiable and objectively true, whereas I keep seeing "HOLDEN IS SO BAD" and "HOLDEN WANTS TO RAPE AND MURDER ERVERYONE" and "HOLDEN DID ALL THESE CRIMES" and I'm looking around for evidence so I can laugh but there's not shit other than what's inferred from random posts.

There's a newspaper article about the lady he threatened to murder/suicide.
There's a newspaper article about him streaking outside for loveshies
He also admits to beating his parents because they wouldn't help him get over his phobia and I think there might be an article about it but I'm not sure.

They are all within the first Holden thread. If I found them, or someone else did, would this help you?
Or is this not the evidence you are talking about?

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

There's a newspaper article about the lady he threatened to murder/suicide.

you have no proof it's about me at all. this article has no mention of any surnames. i told you that's not what happened and that her name was never mentioned on any forums. i told you who to ask. you didn't. so you're just a disingenuous idiot.

There's a newspaper article about him streaking outside for loveshies

where?

He also admits to beating his parents because they wouldn't help him get over his phobia and I think there might be an article about it but I'm not sure.

nope, no article about that either.

null, they're milking you to make defamatory, criminal nonsensical articles that are just about bashing.

 

[Null]

you have no proof it's about me at all. this article has no mention of any surnames. i told you that's not what happened and that her name was never mentioned on any forums.

I'm forced to agree. If you just google Joshua + whatever and get results for anything you want.

I'm getting a sense here that:
1. People hate Marijan because he's an awful misogynist whose beliefs about women are unfounded, bitter, biased and stemming from a lifetime of abuse and loneliness and,
2. People are thus willing to believe fucking anything about the guy.

That makes articles less good.

Again, obey the Hitler Rule. Read Hitler's wikipedia article and see how they handle that.

"Although Hitler's oratory skills and personal traits were generally received well by large crowds and at official events, some who met Hitler privately noted that his appearance and demeanour failed to make a lasting impression.[96][97]"

I mean you can still call him a shitlord and insert stuff he doesn't like, just make it alleged. Look at how I redid the area on his last name.

A) This is inferred.
B) Marijan rejects it.
C) This is why we believe it's true anyways.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

null - two things

1. i told the members of this site many time to ask those who were on ls.com that very day if i mentioned her name there. they never did. instead they believe some crazy thing that says the site's name is "love-sky" when that never even existed.

2. so you're just gonna include something because it was stipulated? i don't tend to be dishonest.

 

[4Macie]

I'm forced to agree. If you just google Joshua + whatever and get results for anything you want.

I'm getting a sense here that:
1. People hate Marijan because he's an awful misogynist whose beliefs about women are unfounded, bitter, biased and stemming from a lifetime of abuse and loneliness and,
2. People are thus willing to believe fucking anything about the guy.

That makes articles less good.

Again, obey the Hitler Rule. Read Hitler's wikipedia article and see how they handle that.

"Although Hitler's oratory skills and personal traits were generally received well by large crowds and at official events, some who met Hitler privately noted that his appearance and demeanour failed to make a lasting impression.[96][97]"

I mean you can still call him a shitlord and insert stuff he doesn't like, just make it alleged. Look at how I redid the area on his last name.

A) This is inferred.
B) Marijan rejects it.
C) This is why we believe it's true anyways.

I understand this, I really do; but the thing is:
1) Holden's very own blog has these stories in them. He has the story of him threatening to murder/suicide the girl on his blog. There's a newspaper article that dates to the same month he says it happens. I don't understand how this isn't good enough evidence. But if you say it's not, then I guess it's not.
2) Holden's very own blog talks about him beating his parents, as do other posts on other blogs that we've confirmed are him. I'm unsure why this isn't good enough evidence when even Holden doesn't disclaim it.
3) The streaking was brought up, someone asked him about it, and he told the whole story. He streaked to promote awareness for his phobia and loveshies. Or at least, that's what he claimed. If he claimed it, why is it not good enough evidence?

I don't hate holden, I think he's pathetic, but I don't hate him. If he says it's not his name, it's not his name. But the thing is, he's actually admitted to these things. The only time he denies anything is when you use the words blackmail and rape because he doesn't believe coercing a girl into sex who's already had sex with someone is blackmail or rape.

Holden doesn't deny that he beat up his parents. He doesn't deny he threatened that girl. And he actually fixed the original story of why he streaked. Why can't we take Holden's own words for it if there's also news articles to back it up? Couldn't you say, "It was alleged that he did this, when questioned about it he said this __________" ? Would that make it better?

If you say this isn't good enough, I'll take your word for it Null.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

He has the story of him threatening to murder/suicide the girl on his blog.

Apparently Marijan also actively posted about the event on the love-shy forums. Maybe @Rammspieler could verify this for us?

 

[Rammspieler]

Apparently Marijan also actively posted about the event on the love-shy forums. Maybe @Rammspieler could verify this for us?

Which one?

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

Which one?

His murder/suicide threat arrest.

 

[4Macie]

His murder/suicide threat arrest.

I found this from the first thread:
http://danas.net.hr/crna-kronika/na-forumu-bivsoj-curi-prijetio-smrcu

So either this is Holden and we do have his name wrong kinda or it's not Holden, just another Marjian who did the same exact crime at the same exact time. @Null I dunno if you want this for wiki or not; still looking for the streaking thing.
Also note: the article says "Love-sky" but it's obviously a spelling error for "Love-shy".

 

[Rammspieler]

His murder/suicide threat arrest.

To be honest, I don't really follow his blog, except for when I'm in need of some darkly humorous entertainment. Only one I can comment on was the first time he publicly threatened to do such a thing and I dared him to do it. I don't remember the exact details. But I think that was before I was made admin over there. I do know that one of the users there warned the original owner of the forums and the owner then called Interpol.

 

[Null]

Look, if you want to improve things, you don't really need my help. Just do it. I see Ramm as a credible 3rd party source and I will accept his statements as a valid resource but you have to denote it's 2nd hand information.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

Only one I can comment on was the first time he publicly threatened to do such a thing and I dared him to do it. I don't remember the exact details.

Assuming someone like Saney still has access to the private sections of the love-shy forums it shouldn't be too difficult to get screenshots of the relevant posts. After all, we do have a date for the arrest so it should make finding the posts much easier.

 

[Rammspieler]

Assuming someone like Saney still has access to the private sections of the love-shy forums it shouldn't be too difficult to get screenshots of the relevant posts. After all, we do have a date for the arrest so it should make finding the posts much easier.

Actually, I believe most posts from that time period were deleted during the Great Purge.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

you have no proof it's about me at all. this article has no mention of any surnames

Not that there was much doubt, but Maijan just confirmed that the article in question is legitimate:

We're concerned with whether or not you were arrested for [threatening a murder/suicide]

i said i had been

Unless there are multiple Marijans from Zargreb who were arrested for murder/suicide threads posted on a love-shy forum, of course. There are too many coincidences to ignore even though the article doesn't contain his last name, and we have to assume that "Love Sky" is a typo. I don't see how this newspaper article can be argued to be about anyone else at this point, and it should be included in the Marijan wiki article.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

i gave my first name on the blog and said i wasn't arrested for that.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

yes, ramm is correct. i was reported to interpol.

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

Null, this is getting worse and worse. This idiot still does crazy shit, like using his own insane, debunked explanation why I'm entitled as a reference to why I am, still thinks that me having a pic of man as an avatar proves I am that man, still puts in various birthdays etc. Why don't you just see his article has noting to do with any presentation of why I'm crazy and everything to do with smear attempts that should make somebody see this, if it were my real name? He is hilarious.

 

[Cubanodun]

Null, this is getting worse and worse. This idiot still does crazy shit, like using his own insane, debunked explanation why I'm entitled as a reference to why I am, still thinks that me having a pic of man as an avatar proves I am that man, still puts in various birthdays etc. Why don't you just see his article has noting to do with any presentation of why I'm crazy and everything to do with smear attempts that should make somebody see this, if it were my real name? He is hilarious.

is obvious that is you, only when you throw a tantrum for x thing is that we know is truth, the sad thing marjan is that YOU CANNOT PROVE IS NOT YOU without doxxing yourself

so you can

a) Prove that the man in your avatar is not you, posting a picture or something related
b) keep throwing a tantrum before null use Goldion Banhammer on you

knowing your long history of lies, twisting facts in your favor and incredible ego we know that you are not going to do anything or you are going to cry in your bed listening to the sounds of the Fan cooler of your pc

 

[Marjan Šiklić]

is obvious that is you

the fact that i had a man's pic on my avatar, which nobody in the history of that forum did, and is always done by people on forums who already revealed their names long ago and are usually posting by them shows its me?

i mean, i don't care, using it doesn't affect me, but i'm just pointing out how ridiculous all of this is to null, among other things

 

[Cubanodun]

i mean, i don't care, using it doesn't affect me

Then stop bitching