Marine Self Defense

[Fishkill]

Maybe in a strictly controlled environment like a shooting range (that had been vacated for the purpose of this little exercise). Then again, I'm pretty sure that any decent, respectable shooting range wouldn't let Jace anywhere near a weapon. Their insurance is probably steep enough as it is.

I'm not even sure that this experience would teach him anything. He may just convince himself that the guns were defective, or t hat they'd somehow been damaged from having multiple people firing them - who knows?

Jace would be allowed to go shooting range, I doubt he knows about how a real gun actually works, and how it feels, and how to hold it.But he could still do it.

 

[Observers]

I have a fun idea.
Give him two real Desert Eagles. Him trying to fire them akimbo would be an awesome demonstration of Newtonian physics for anyone watching behind bulletproof glass.

I would pay good money for that, the recoil would give him pretty good range (fuel wise) though he has a bad wingspan so i think he may not travel too far due to lift and air resistance lol we could make bets on distance. call it the "deagle downs"

 

[Thetan]

Jace would be allowed to go shooting range, I doubt he knows about how a real gun actually works, and how it feels, and how to hold it.

I don't know about other firing ranges, but Manchester Firing Line (Manchester NH) probably wouldn't let him on the range. I've seen people turned away before. Also, if you plan on renting out one of their guns, they require you to present a certificate showing you have completed a course or have a LTC/CCW from a state that requires a course completion prior to certification. This rule is probably due to some specifics of their insurance. If you go with your own gun, this rule doesn't apply.

I wouldn't want to see Jace, or anyone else, get injured. The owners of Manchester Firing Line probably feel the same way. It's pretty damn obvious, even to the casual observer, that Jace is mentally unstable and that letting him anywhere near any kind of weaponry probably isn't a good idea. Manchester Firing Line won't even allow you to shoot one-handed unless you've proven to them you're competent with a gun. They can also be pretty unforgiving when it comes to fuck ups: make too many, and you're perma-banned.

 

[Observers]

I don't know about other firing ranges, but Manchester Firing Line (Manchester NH) probably wouldn't let him on the range. I've seen people turned away before. Also, if you plan on renting out one of their guns, they require you to present a certificate showing you have completed a course or have a LTC/CCW from a state that requires a course completion prior to certification. This rule is probably due to some specifics of their insurance. If you go with your own gun, this rule doesn't apply.

I wouldn't want to see Jace, or anyone else, get injured. The owners of Manchester Firing Line probably feel the same way. It's pretty damn obvious, even to the casual observer, that Jace is mentally unstable and that letting him anywhere near any kind of weaponry probably isn't a good idea. Manchester Firing Line won't even allow you to shoot one-handed unless you've proven to them you're competent with a gun. They can also be pretty unforgiving when it comes to fuck ups: make too many, and you're perma-banned.

Sounds like they run a good business. General with Firearms when you make a mistake it tends to have permanent consequences. Good for them on there strict rules sounds like a great range!

 

[Thetan]

Sounds like they run a good business. General with Firearms when you make a mistake it tends to have permanent consequences. Good for them on there strict rules sounds like a great range!

They do run a great range. I took a firearms safety course there before purchasing a gun. Their programs are excellent and cover everything from safely cleaning your gun, to different shooting styles / techniques. I shoot mainly for sport (target shooting - no hunting), but I'd be willing to defend myself, if I found myself in a life or death situation.

Sounds like they run a good business. General with Firearms when you make a mistake it tends to have permanent consequences. Good for them on there strict rules sounds like a great range!

OT: I make a killer cajun blackened chicken. You guys would love it! Lotsa hot pepper and spices!

 

[waffle]

I suspect Jace has schizophrenia. My cousin has it and in a lot of ways is just like Jace (including the weed obsession and the insane drinking), he also reminds me of Crazy Gail quite a bit. He may have bipolar also, it's hard to tell with schizophrenic people.

 

[A-№1]

For some reason, the whole obsession with weapons thing isn't all that uncommon.

If it weren't for the political aspect (and the spergery that goes with that), firearms would mostly just be like any other hobby like model trains and furniture making and golf. Some people are into them for the mechanical aspects, some for the challenge of shooting well, some for the self reliant political philosophy that goes with them, and others for a wide range of innocuous reasons.

But there are also people who obsess about weapons as a fetish symbol for the power and authority they wish they had in life and that they imagine weapons provide. Is is any wonder that disturbed people obsess about weapons in a disturbing way? Would Jace be any less creepy if his obsession involved women's footwear instead of weapons? (Admittedly he would be slightly less likely to cause harm, but only slightly - have you seen some of the heels they put on some shoes? Scary.)

I don't know about other firing ranges, but Manchester Firing Line (Manchester NH) probably wouldn't let him on the range.

Jace is a convicted felon. I don't know about NH law, but I'm almost positive they are required by law to turn him away. And they'd be fools not to even if they aren't. Even if Jace is for some strange loophole reason (or if he lies about his felony status) allowed to be on site (like for the snack bar or something), he would legally not be able to touch ANYTHING there without facing a 10 year minimum sentence.

I have a fun idea.
Give him two real Desert Eagles. Him trying to fire them akimbo would be an awesome demonstration of Newtonian physics for anyone watching behind bulletproof glass.

Jace is a convicted felon. It's illegal for him to possess a firearm of any sort. It's also illegal to provide him with one. It's not worth breaking the law just to see Jace make a fool of himself, and besides which Jace makes a fool of himself all on his own without any help whatsoever.

tl;dr: If you have to break the law to laugh at a lolcow, you are Doing It Wrong.

 

[Thetan]

Of course, I'm basing my assessment of Jace mainly on his videos. tweets. and various blog posts. Maybe he comes across as more normal when he's not "putting on a show" for the loyal members of Deagle Nation (and interested observers, trolls, etc....). Without the benefit of having the opportunity to observe him in public, when he's not "grandstanding", it's hard to make a real assessment.

 

[Edhelharn]

If it weren't for the political aspect (and the spergery that goes with that), firearms would mostly just be like any other hobby like model trains and furniture making and golf. Some people are into them for the mechanical aspects, some for the challenge of shooting well, some for the self reliant political philosophy that goes with them, and others for a wide range of innocuous reasons.

But there are also people who obsess about weapons as a fetish symbol for the power and authority they wish they had in life and that they imagine weapons provide. Is is any wonder that disturbed people obsess about weapons in a disturbing way? Would Jace be any less creepy if his obsession involved women's footwear instead of weapons? (Admittedly he would be slightly less likely to cause harm, but only slightly - have you seen some of the heels they put on some shoes? Scary.)

Jace is a convicted felon. I don't know about NH law, but I'm almost positive they are required by law to turn him away. And they'd be fools not to even if they aren't.

Jace is a convicted felon. It's illegal for him to possess a firearm of any sort. It's also illegal to provide him with one. It's not worth breaking the law just to see Jace make a fool of himself, and besides which Jace makes a fool of himself all on his own without any help whatsoever.

tl;dr: If you have to break the law to laugh at a lolcow, you are Doing It Wrong.

Is he really a convicted felon?

 

[A-№1]

Is he really a convicted felon?

Yup. Others know more about it than I do, but apparently Jace can't be trusted behind a steering wheel either.

Doubtless he wouldn't have so many toy plastic guns if he were allowed to own real ones.

 

[Ivan Komarov]

If it weren't for the political aspect (and the spergery that goes with that), firearms would mostly just be like any other hobby like model trains and furniture making and golf. Some people are into them for the mechanical aspects, some for the challenge of shooting well, some for the self reliant political philosophy that goes with them, and others for a wide range of innocuous reasons.

But there are also people who obsess about weapons as a fetish symbol for the power and authority they wish they had in life and that they imagine weapons provide. Is is any wonder that disturbed people obsess about weapons in a disturbing way? Would Jace be any less creepy if his obsession involved women's footwear instead of weapons? (Admittedly he would be slightly less likely to cause harm, but only slightly - have you seen some of the heels they put on some shoes? Scary.)

Jace is a convicted felon. I don't know about NH law, but I'm almost positive they are required by law to turn him away. And they'd be fools not to even if they aren't. Even if Jace is for some strange loophole reason (or if he lies about his felony status) allowed to be on site (like for the snack bar or something), he would legally not be able to touch ANYTHING there without facing a 10 year minimum sentence.

Jace is a convicted felon. It's illegal for him to possess a firearm of any sort. It's also illegal to provide him with one. It's not worth breaking the law just to see Jace make a fool of himself, and besides which Jace makes a fool of himself all on his own without any help whatsoever.

tl;dr: If you have to break the law to laugh at a lolcow, you are Doing It Wrong.

IIRC there is no evidence for Jace being a felon. Would not be surprised if he was though. Also, he lives in MA, not NH. Personally, I dont think Jace is schizophrenic. Francis E Dec was a schizophrenic, who wrote text wall letters about the gangster computer god and spent his entire life in his house. Jace only acts like a schizo when he is on uppers like in this video. He certainly has a learning disorder of some sort, because out of all the burnout stoners I know, Jace surpasses them in stupidity and being stubborn. He does exhibit many signs of autism.
On a different rambling note, I don't think his obsession with firearms is from him wanting to be powerful and whatnot, it's just he sees them as cool and obsesses over them.

 

[Sweet and Savoury]

The trouble with delusional people is that you cannot cure them by forcing them to face/acknowledge reality. They've already rejected it in favor of their own.

These people need professional help and proper medication if they are to over-come their affliction.

Pot just wont cut it.

 

[Duke Nukem]

I would certainly be interested in knowing if he is a convicted felon or not. I mean, I'm not doubting it or anything, I would just like to see proof before we make any assumptions about it. I do believe he got a driving while stoned incident on his record, though. But I seriously doubt that's a felony. Although he did admit to crossing state lines at one time with weed, which IS actually a felony. Whether he actually got charged? I don't think he did.

TL;DR: He does have a record, but so far, there's no proof that he actually has any felonies.

 

[A-№1]

IIRC there is no evidence for Jace being a felon. Would not be surprised if he was though.

All I know is what I've heard. IIRC his license was suspended for a DUII (marijuana), which was only a misdemeanor, but he went on to drive while his license was suspended, which was the (really stupid) felony. Given that he seems restricted to toy firearms, and he had to have his mother drive him around, and he has admitted to doing other stupid felonies (for which he wasn't caught or prosecuted), I find it much more likely that the felony allegation is true than not.

Also, he lives in MA, not NH.

The shooting range Thetan specifically mentioned is in NH though. A lot of shooters in MA travel to NH to shoot, probably because shooting facilities in MA are either rare or expensive.

Not that the state matters much because the restrictions on felons and firearms are federal.

Personally, I dont think Jace is schizophrenic.

Jace is definitely delusional to some extent, but whether that's from a condition he has or from all the hard work he puts into it I'm not going to guess. About the only thing I can say for certain is the boy ain't right.

On a different rambling note, I don't think his obsession with firearms is from him wanting to be powerful and whatnot, it's just he sees them as cool and obsesses over them.

But why does he see them as cool? It can't be for their specific designs or capabilities or suchlike because he really knows next to nothing about them.

 

[Ariel]

Why Chris wasn't monetising his YouTube channel:
Why Jace isn't monetising his YouTube channel: Actually he is, but he forgot to change the password and all the money goes to Tyce

Not really.

I hear this argument a lot, although to be fair it's mostly from people on /k/ who don't know how to use Google or common sense (all of them, in my experience) There's some guy who posts in nearly every thread and claims We Have All Been Rused because PKD has been doing the whole thing for Adsense views. He just keeps saying it over and over again and nobody really knows why at this point. But to break it down:

-Simple math: YouTube partners make about $1 for every 1,000 views. As of the time of writing, Parkourdude91 has 98,486 channel views, and Deagle Nation has 13,849 channel views, so Jace's two channels combined would have made him about $111 if he had been monetizing it from the start (which would have been impossible, obviously, since you have to reach a certain threshold before they even enable it) So ideal situation, everything else perfect, over his year-and-a-half long YouTube career and all the pain it's caused him, he would have made enough to buy an airsoft gun or a few shitty games from a Steam sale.

-Advertising: YouTube's TOS says that any monetized channel must be "advertiser friendly"; I.E. companies are going to review the video content and decide whether or not they want to take the risk in being associated with this person for a few thousand clicks. Plainly speaking:
Jace
is
not
advertiser
friendly.

-Copyright: YouTube partners can't use copyrighted music, games, or basically anything at all in their videos, and they have to provide documentation. Most of Jace's longer videos are just him playing dumb video games and listening to Nickelback or John Cena's theme music, which (while it can be a gray area) will probably cause him some problems.

-Marketing: Jace's videos appeal to a niche market. Even Our Pet Lolcow, even at the height of his fame, didn't come remotely close to the top 100 YouTube stars, people who actually make a living off it. There's a ceiling on how many people enjoy this kind of content. As eye-gougingly painful as TheAnnoyingOrange and PewDiePie are, they are successful because (and probably only because) they appeal to a very, very wide audience. Jace does not, ergo he is never going to make any remotely substantial amount of money.

-Effort: Due to the math I detailed above, the YouTube "industry" is incredibly competitive. To have a shot at making any amount of money, you have to be putting out top-notch videos every day. You have to be competent in social media and web optimization, you have to understand how to get new fans, branch out, and expand your brand. You have to have a lot of skills, patience, and perseverance that Jace does not possess. Jace's popularity is literally an unfortunate accident. Of course, he thinks the reason he's been so popular is because he's a great vlogger and he's mastered the YouTube game with fans all around the world, but we all know it's because he's a bumbling exceptional individual and he has no clue what he's doing. TL;DR: Jace doesn't have what it takes to actually go forward with this.

You are right on all points. I was comparing him to the youtubers I normally watch who have made lots of money, but obviously a beauty 'guru' like DulceCandy is extremely sought after by small PR firms & advertising affiliates.

 

[CWCissey]

but Manchester Firing Line (Manchester NH)

Manchester in the UK also has a shooting range.

It's called Moss Side.

 

[Duke Nukem]

All I know is what I've heard. IIRC his license was suspended for a DUII (marijuana), which was only a misdemeanor, but he went on to drive while his license was suspended, which was the (really stupid) felony. Given that he seems restricted to toy firearms, and he had to have his mother drive him around, and he has admitted to doing other stupid felonies (for which he wasn't caught or prosecuted), I find it much more likely that the felony allegation is true than not.

Actually, driving with a suspended license is not a felony, at least in most states. I looked up Massachusetts law and it doesn't say whether it is a felony or not. I do know that the first offense is only 10 days in jail and a hefty fine. (probably between $500 and $1000) Subsequent offenses can result in jail for 60 days to a year for the most part, fines probably in the $1000-5000 range. Also, I do not believe a crime is a felony unless it is punishable by over a year in jail. At least that is how it is in most states. Driving with a suspended license, at least in my state, is a misdemeanor in itself, at least the first offense of that nature is.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...lties/driving-suspended-license-massachusetts

 

[Frank_Jaeger]

What I'm wondering if Jace even has the endurance to do a class for more than about an hour, in any of his videos where he does anything physical he seems to be to the point where he can barely talk after a couple minutes of light exercise

 

[Dr. Mario]

What I'm wondering if Jace even has the endurance to do a class for more than about an hour, in any of his videos where he does anything physical he seems to be to the point where he can barely talk after a couple minutes of light exercise

Welcome to the forums.

Yeah, Jace has no stamina enough to do a whole hour class, also I don't think he'll teach anything really useful.

 

[Strewth]

Do you think Jace actually believes he has a level of ability that could benefit others if taught?
I mean, I know of a guy round my way who literally just bought a gi and a black coloured belt off the internet and started running 'taekwondo' classes from the local community centre. He's not spent much time doing martial arts that I know of, and he spends four hours a week teaching middle-aged women and kids the wrong way to do front kicks for a not insignificant fee.
The question is, is Jace doing this even though he knows he's not an expert, just so he can make a quick buck... Or is he genuinely so deluded that he actually believes he's offering a fantastic deal?