Matthew Prince lied.

[Roving Opossum]

I've been a lurker for a few years now but I'm starting to get a bit MATI.

Thanks for all the work you do Josh, hope everything works out.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

For me, the battle was lost in August 2014. That's when it was revealed Alex Lifschitz was a 4chan janny helping to censor any discussion over his girlfriend, and was around the time The Fappening also happened.

Kiwifarms isn't what it used to be a decade ago. It is now the toughened, monstrous amalgamation of people who were on Encyclopedia Dramatica/EDF, 8chan, hundreds of banned reddit subs, Voat, and anyone who doesn't agree with the current media zeitgeist to take a stand. If KF were to ever fall, it would be akin to Noah's Ark sinking. We are the last real force that stands between them and the real world.

Gentlemen, ladies and of course, our trannies, it has been an honor and great pleasure,

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

> I've not yet moved my domains from Cloudflare, because a part of me thinks that Matthew will recognize this as an err in judgement.


This is a bad decision.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

The worst part is these dickless mother fuckers are to stupid to see it.

I mean that is kind of the point of useful idiots.

When they finally outlive their usefulness is always funny to watched.

They are alwsys surprised.

 

[Gfkldsl]

We wuz kangs n' shit

 

[Clout $ Monei]

What an ungrateful prick, I made him a custom kiwiggler and this is how he treats the site...

 

[Die Oberste Direktive]

Guys I'm starting to actually get mad at the Internet. I have seen worse shit posted on gab not that I visit that hugbox very often. The most enraging thing is this is all for some mentally ill retard that thinks he's a woman so he can continue grooming little kids. I know we aren't supposed to hate our cows but the line is getting very blurry right now.

I don't think there is a level of anger to reach here that qualifies as "mad at the internet." (((They))) made the internet a centralized/globalized means of communication after (((they))) figured out how much it could control society. This is anger at the world, which extends outside the internet. This website shouldn't be considered a "far-right terrorist hangout" just because we can say nigger or faggot or troon or you'll never be a real woman. That should just be, oh, I don't know, FREE SPEECH.

I'd just like to know where the evidence is that they want to parade out to say this website is criminal, when there is documented proof of some of these lolcows doing actually harmful shit.

Spoiler: Spoiler alert

THEY HAVE NOTHING

 

[inception_state]

Someone posted this to HN, and it has been rather funny watching the submission get repeatedly flagged and vouched every 30 seconds.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711475

 

[Onni Kalsarikännit]

Lucas Roberts aka Keffals supports a site that helps distribute DIY hormones to children without knowledge their parents.

The website supported by Lucas Roberts aka Keffals uses Cloudflare.

Cloudflare supports a website that actually can cause massive damage to people.

Instead of supporting free speech as self-proclaimed free speech advocate Matthew Prince supports this.

 

[federals292]

IF YOU VALUE THE LIVELIHOODS OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY ONLY ACCESS THIS SITE ON A VPN (VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK) TO AVOID DOXXING

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

All this does is solidify my belief that uncle Adolf was right.

Please Senpai, I just want to live in Neuschwabenland - is that too much to ask?

 

[I Hate Anime Avatars]

They've been making lists on Twitter ever since this started. Mumsnet and Ovarit are two others the troons really want gone. A bunch were also suggesting Substack.

Mumsnet is undoubtedly next on the troon hit-list but the dynamics are very different with that site, KF has a reputation as a far-right harrassment forum where we coordinate with Ulster union terrorists and fly drones over the tranch, Yes of course its all complete bullshit but I honestly don't get why people are so shocked and indignant about this, maybe a lot of you are young, naive or just haven't been paying attention but troons are the favoured class of the people who hold most of the keys right now and when the activist media has an agenda they want to push they will lie like its 1984 and Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia and most people will simply accept it because they have been brainwahed into thinking LGBTQAXYZ people are God's gift to humanity. Of course there are many people who privately disagree but they keep it to themselves and private conversations between friends because they just want to get on with their lives and couldn't care less about gender-anything (at least until their kid troons out), and then there are people like us who are willing to stand up to all this, even if all that consists of is laughing at them and documenting them on a random website most people have never heard of.

But I digress, Mumsnet is not a community the troons can attack as easily because of the nature of it's userbase (the clue is in the fucking name) and the fact that I doubt there are many people on Twitter claiming that Mumset is secretly working with terrorists, so comparing it to the Farms isn't all that useful.

It's sad, but these events are simply an example of a strategy that's proven time and again in order to "deplatform hate":

- Create false flag threats of violence or other AUP-violating content on the forum you want to attack.
- Enraged activists identify a weak point in the forum's tech stack that allows a third-party deplatforming to be disruptive. They then create a public attack campaign against that company that will only cease when the deplatforming occurs, pointing to the false flag attacks as their primary justification for demanding immediate action.
- A sympathetic media treats the false flags as not only valid, but as a defining quality of the forum and perhaps its only real purpose. This puts a lot of PR pressure on the targeted company to stop defending the indefensible, and if they affirm that the target is operating within AUP then they are subjected to an initial wave of media criticism that will create long-term brand damage. From a pure bottom-line perspective this is likely not an acceptable risk to a company's finances even if the arguments are meritless.
- Additionally, the activists try to sow internal pressure with sympathetic employees that threaten operational efficiency if the deplatforming doesn't occur.

This is what we've seen and will continue to see because it works. As others speculate, I'm going to guess that Prince faced an internal revolt over KF and just caved to the pressure.

Oddly, one thing I haven't seen discussed much about Prince's post is that if taken seriously it implies that if no legal action is taken against KF then Cloudflare would resume service. I don't expect this to actually happen but I wonder if this will ever be addressed. Pro-deplatforming voices have used the argument that utilities like CF need to start moderating because the law is too slow/stupid to stop bad actors and apparently Prince agrees in exceptional cases. But unless he thinks this "exceptional case" represents the norm on KF then the argument for discontinuing service is transitory. If he does think it's the norm then per his own arguments about due process Cloudflare should explain why this is the case and why a line can be drawn for KF that applies to no other websites.

Give this fag a cigar.

Most suspected this would happen and so it has, I realise a lot of people are pissed right now but I'm honestly surprised Cloudflare held out for as long as they did, the global IT industry is no place for principles anymore if it ever was. Things like this are only going to become more common in the future. The sad fact is that the Internet is changing and there is very little we can do about it as things currently stand. Corporations want to control eveything because there is just too much money at stack

 

[6MillionCoofs]

But it's a really good fucking book.

I mean sure but that doesn’t mean dumb people won’t think you nuts

 

[Hüftpriester]

Cloudflare dropping us means Lucas is a real woman now, right?

Or is he still just a mentally ill eunuch who grooms children?

 

[Phil The Thrill]

3 days later, something scared him. I don't know what it was, but it achieved the desired result.

Cloudflare's ESG score plummeting scared him.

 

[Hand Banana]

IF YOU VALUE THE LIVELIHOODS OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY ONLY ACCESS THIS SITE ON A VPN (VIRTUAL PRIVATE NETWORK) TO AVOID DOXXING

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Unlike these people i don't put my whole life on the internet and i dont use (((social media)))

 

[alexjoneswasright]

This is strange at best, scary at worst. An organized mob coerces Cloudflare with their fuckin Twitter hashtag to "deplatform" Kiwifarms...

"We are also not taking this action directly because of the pressure campaign."

I don't even understand how can they publish this line with a straight face. If they wanted to drop KF and wanted people to actually believe this fucking pure lie they should have done so AFTER things died down

 

[Vegetamite]

The abject retardation it took to get to this point is absolutely astounding.

However, I am not shocked. Clowns do be clowning.

 

[Procrastinhater]

LOL
ROFL
LMAO

another W for the transfolk, don't fuck with us

... You realize you just posted that on the site that's supposed to be "down" right?
We're still here you pitiful, tragic, creature.
Where's your "W"?

Same place as your dick.
Crying on the Internet wont change your chromosomes faggot.
You will never be a woman, outside your online hugbox in real life most people think you're a freak.
I know you know this, you can  feel the amused, disgusted glances boring into your back when you go outside, if you ever do.
All you'll ever have are people lying to you to be polite, but you know what you are, we know what you are, and so does everyone else.
A twisted, insecure freak that will never be comfortable in your own skin.
Your only way out is to keep that ever increasing 41% 46% 50% climbing, and even then your skeleton will show what you, deep down, in the part that you try to ignore, knows you are.

So run along, freak, enjoy your "W" it won't change those doubts, and it wont make you happy in your own skin.

 

[AirdropShitposts]

What an ungrateful prick, I made him a custom kiwiggler and this is how he treats the site...

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After all we've done for Matthew like this, he sides with the people calling him a genocide supporting neo-Nazi over the free speech forum that makes him kiwigglers.