Prison Letters May 11, 2022 - Chris writes letter trying to shift blame to Barb

Idk, given Barb's previously documented creepy and abusive behavior years before the incestchu saga I think Chris's claims might have a grain of truth to them. I don't think either of them really belong out in society at this point, but ever since the story broke I've wondered about if it's possible bard was actually the groomy party instead? Especially since IIRC parent/child incest situations, even if both parties are adults, are usually situations of the parent grooming/abusing the child.

Chris is terrible and I'm pretty firmly in the mental hospital camp for his ultimate fate, but put it this way; if Chris was actually a TRUE and HONEST woman who had sex with her elderly father, with everything else about the case kept the same including years of receipts of the parent being creepy/controlling, what would the reaction be?
 
Only Chris can see the apocalypse on the horizon and think; "but mah Pony show needs five more seasons!" fucking Christ if this is what a stay in a mental hospital did we need to bring back lobotomy and electroshock cause modern treatments do Jack shit on the dangerous retards.
A major problem with having something like an MLP generation go much longer than a few years is that your core audience is aging out of it by about season 5. So you either have to up the age level of the show to keep the current fans, and lose new recruits from the original target age group, or stay at the same level and have the current fans age out.

Now we all know why those demographics were rather warped by a certain cohort of the fandom and this generation lasted an exceedingly long time for the kind of show it is, but after about 10 years it really has to be retired.
 
really wish people would stop with the whole schizo thing. chris is just a typical autist and the jesus larp/sonichu thing is an example of maladaptive daydreaming, something which is common in autists:
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chris isn't a particularily special autist, nor does he have some chemical imbalance in his brain that makes him see sonichus. if it really was then a steady course of meds would curb that. maladaptive daydreaming is both a conscious action and a compulsion you can't just med that away. chris is never going to get better because to do so he would have to let go of his security blanket daydreams and actively work with a therapist to achieve healthier coping mechanisms. and if you know anything about chris you know that's not happening.
 
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Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought his current galpal had asked him multiple times if he brought up his invisible friend and merge nonsense with his counselor and he said no.
Marvin said Chris would get upset if he wasn't allowed to yammer on about his delusions. He probably just lied to the gal pal, as is his way with women.

Chris continued to use his mental health sessions as an outlet to express his beliefs, telling his psychiatrist about his Dimensional Merge-related beliefs in December 2018 and leaving her "flabbergasted".[1] In March 2019, Guard Dog Marvin stated:


Chris has been telling his therapists in great detail about his insane shit for a long time. Like in detail and he gets cranky if they don't let him tell everything the way he wants.[10]
 
really wish people would stop with the whole schizo thing. chris is just a typical autist and the jesus larp/sonichu thing is an example of maladaptive daydreaming, something which is common in autists:
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chris isn't a particularily special autist, nor does he have some chemical imbalance in his brain that makes him see sonichus. if it really was then a steady course of meds would curb that. maladaptive daydreaming is both a conscious action and a compulsion you can't just med that away. chris is never going to get better because to do so he would have to let go of his security blanket daydreams and actively work with a therapist to achieve healthier coping mechanisms. and if you know anything about chris you know that's not happening.
Daydreamers (if there even is such a thing as maladaptive daydreaming) can tell that they're daydreaming. Chris obviously can't.
Somer has argued that maladaptive daydreaming is not a form of psychosis as people with maladaptive daydreaming can tell that their fantasies are not real while those with psychotic disorders have difficulty separating hallucinations or delusions from reality.[7]
 
I think a tantrum is feasible (looking back on things like the rage he threw when he got blocked by pony people on twitter), though it may have taken the form of a shutdown. Maybe both. Two months seems like a long time for him to be learning how to assist in his defense, but I don’t know what the typical length of time is.

My money is on Shutdown followed by small showings of his impotent rage, Rember this is Chris's own personal hell he's feared since he was old enough to understand that such places where a possibility for him, he's even claimed in one of the earlu calls that Bob moved him and Chris to Midlothian just to avoid that sort of situation.

He panicked, shut down for a while then came back and when he was feeling marginally more brave than a jelly custard he mutterd a curse yehamea and imagined drawing the staff with backwards names.

I think there he didn't mention the Merge or Dimensions stuff because of conditioning Bob and Barb gave him that when he's with a Doctor or Teacher to shut the fuck up, and when the staff did a little prying they only got dribs and drabs out of him.

Says you. I can finally read his handwriting.

That has improved, I'm left handed and dyslexic and write with a fountain pen so my writing is awful but legable Chris normally looks like a confused autopen and now his handwriting is better than mine.

When Chris paid Mia Hamm $150 for sex, Barb was 70 years old. I have noticed older generations have a problem understanding inflation. Old people often think you can buy a nice house for $15,000 and pay for things like college and rent and a car with a part time job. During the last recession my own stepdad once asked me why I don't go out partying all the time and why I worked five days a week for only $31,000 a year. A lot of people were doing far worse than I was. He thought I should just get a job where I worked two days a week for $200,000 a year. He is and was unemployed and depends on my mom.

I can see what you mean and how Chris might have worded it and Barb said "For $150 Dollars I'd have fucked you Son" and she said it more out of astonishment Chris had spent that kind of money on a hooker, I can't recall the slang now but in the 40's and 50's America there was something about $2 hooker being cheap on a Saturday night. That was the era she grew up so was likely exposed to it and that's the sort of thing that sticks in the mind an you dredge up years later.

And yea that sort of mindset is sadly common all over the western world, just getting a job these days is a job inof it's self and the pay let alone benefits (even out side America) have not kept up with inflation, and that's just for entry level jobs let alone anything requiring skills or experience.

A good example of Cost's and the older miss understanding is to look at how easy it is for Old people to attempt DIY jobs they should not be doing, in my area to fell a grown tree 30 years old, 45ft in height and about 1ft - 2ft base girth is about £120 in a Garden assuming it's a simple felling job with clear access and drop area - he called around got quotes found them all just to much for a simple £20 job (his wife quoted that in the paper) looked around car-boot sales and got a Chainsaw far to small for the job, filled it up and tried to drop the tree - Killed himself when a 1.5ton of larch fell on his head, and crushed the fence and his neighbours caravan.

Year before that a guy blew himself up trying to fix his own gas boiler, because the quotes where too high for his liking - dude was getting a 100K a year pension and thought the gas fitters where ripping him off, looked up a few YT videos and googled it thought he could do it himself and ended up redecorating his utility room a nice shade of blood red with hints of organ.

Some people pointed this out, but the one thing that might have happened behind the scenes is him getting more and more desperate knowing this is real, that he fucked his own life over. That would explain the gloomy look, his sudden shift to blaming Barb and him leaning hard on his coping mechanism, harder than before to the point of blaming Sockness for the coof despite never mentioning this before in any other related contexts. Just see how much of a jumbled fucking mess his reasoning for blaming Barb is, no woman is impressed with the knowledge that you fucked a hooker, Barb was absurdly casual with this, which goes against her manipulative nature, she would slowly groom Chris into doing that if it was truly her idea. Chris is fucked, and he knows it!

I don't think it's that, I think he's just been exposed to other ideas and not Barb for the longest period of time in his life so he's less likely to view Barb as infallible, remember Chris takes what he views as Authority as a verbatim fact, I'll dig deeper into this a bit further down.

(What is it with Chris and bananas for Barb anyway?)

Back after WW2 in the UK and other countries Bannana's where a new fruit and they where almost marketed as a super food, and when the Gross Michel (the flavour profile used for Artificial Banana flavour today) cropps stated to fail and they had to use other varieties they recycled the same marketing but basically slapped a new and improved tag on it - during the early 90's there was a push to add in another variety when it looked like there was another cropping problem that used Linford Christy in the UK and Bananas and a specific kind of bananas later on.

Before that it was Carrots in the WW2 and Inter War period, and before that it was Tomato and Potatoes (those tubas are a really interesting topic).

But isn't he still a troon? He signs the letters with his female name and calls himself a goddess, and hasn't said anything about identifying as male again, so it's safe to assume the trans identity has just taken a backseat to make way for his newest delusion. And knowing Chris' poor track record when it comes to learning from his mistakes, detransition seems unlikely.

He is a Woman when he wants to be and all man when he wants to be, Chris views being a woman as a convenience nothing more he derives his whole understanding of womanhood from TV, Cartoons and Porn i.e. women have life on Easy mode and he wants easy more than anything else, he also has a obsession with names and wrote facts.

If you where trolling Chris and where fluent enough in his mental workings and love of wordy things you could get him to change his name you Joshua Christopher Christian Christina Wesson Chandler (add-ons dropped) you'd just need to make it sound official enough and logical in a way he can understand while peppering in big important words.

feel like the sudden revelation of Barb's "proposition" may have come from some time with a Psychiatrist, and Chris giving them the "Barb started it!" recounting that he's offered up numerous times in the past year. He told the Psych that "Barb made da first moves" and was asked "OK, Do you remember anything before that where Barb made similar suggestions? What was that like?" as a way to get more information out of him, and Chris, notorious for oversharing, told the story of the prostitute and Barb (likely angrily) saying that, which ran through the Autism Filter and came out to Chris as Barb actually meaning it. It probably has bounced around in his head ever since. It was only four years later that he admitted to having dreams of fucking Barb.

He's now been separated from Barb long enough and been exposed to Authorities new that he has learned some new ideas, and is fully on the way to misinterpreting them in his own special way.

How this has likey happened is Chris admitted to shagging Mia Ham for $150 to the councillor, and they said something like nobody should feel the pressure to have sex / lose there virginity it will happen when it happens, he's then gotten onto what Barb said like I mentioned above said in exasperation ""For $150 I'd have sex with you" and he's put 2+2 together and came up with 6 and a bit. Chris is very literal he dosent or didn't know that the a Wet dream means blerting in your sleep not pissing yourself and came up with "Sticky dream" for that common turn of phrase.

Barb said something like that out of exasperation as he either over shared or she pressed him on why he had a smug dopy smile for a few days running and said that in exasperation or astonishment.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong but I thought his current galpal had asked him multiple times if he brought up his invisible friend and merge nonsense with his counselor and he said no. Instead he talked about the trolls and his comics and shit, but not the delusional stuff. I don't know there's so much crazy bullshit with chris for a decade plus so I could be wrong.

Again as I said above, I think that he's not brought it up much or at all with the Mental health professionals at least not without them doing enough digging, this is likely some conditioning Bob and Barb managed to instil in him early enough that it has deep roots that are hard for him to change, especially when he was in a situation that he has feared most of his life. It's also some what immaterial as he wasn't there for him to be "Fixed" he was there to see if he can stand trial, that he knows right from wrong and can understand and assist with his current situation and the requirement for that is low.

(like wanting to show off how smart he thinks he is)

Compensatory Parroting, Chris copys words and phrases he thinks are applicable to the person he is conversing with. Like with the Spatchcock calls he felt he needed to be prim and proper English from the old BBC commidies he watched, when he thinks he's been clever he trys to sound wordy and educated, and when he's out of his depth with a person or subculture he uses what he thinks is the vernacular of that person like he did in the Lars call.

Example - If Chris saw a picture of me right now and was told to go into a Chip shop and order dinner he would walk into said shop and try and talk like someone from the chimney sweeps from Mary Poppins, I've got a flat cap, waistcoat, baggy armed shirt and moleskin trousers and hobnail boots on, and he would copy that but add in mannerisms from other British media to fill in the gaps he doesn't know and he'd say something like -

"Alright me ald mucker gime a hapeth of chips and a fried cod, my love and dont skimp on da mush" the server would look at him like a idiot and say "So chips and Fried Fish with mushy peas, do you want salt an vinigar on the chips?" he'd mumble "Yes quite", because that is how he thinks that conversation would go down it's how he's thought about it and how it must work given the evidence of Film and TV.

How that conversation should go down is "Alright love, Can I av a Large Chips an a Big Saussage and Ow much are yer can's o pop?" "90p" says the girl already dishing up my chips "Sound gime a can of vimpto as well love", I'd slide along the counter get my fried spuds and suspicious tube of meat and can of pop and move on, no filler no pippip cheery'o etc just simple human interaction with a local flavor, he can't understand without a lot of media filling it in for him.
 
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Daydreamers (if there even is such a thing as maladaptive daydreaming) can tell that they're daydreaming. Chris obviously can't.
because he's copium'd/idea guys groomed into thinking his imaginary world was real. there's more than enough evidence of inconsistencies which point to it being a deliberate action for chris. see: the gamer from mars interview where chris initially says it's just him and barb in a genuinely sad tone, then snaps back and starts talking about the pokemon on the roof of his house. psychotics can't just "remember" they're supposed to be seeing things they literally just see imaginary things their senses tell them is there, and they're not gonna "see" their pokemon pals or autistic sonic ocs those visions are usually scary and distressing and they have to train themselves to not react to them
 
Idk, given Barb's previously documented creepy and abusive behavior years before the incestchu saga I think Chris's claims might have a grain of truth to them.

You cant seriously be saying Chris might've been fucking his mom since 2012. Chris is literally incapable of keeping his flabbing trap shut. When has Chris ever effectively kept a secret for any prolonged span of time?
 
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Idk, given Barb's previously documented creepy and abusive behavior years before the incestchu saga I think Chris's claims might have a grain of truth to them.
Yeah, I'm not convinced either way. I think it's not the whole truth and that he's not accurate in repeating what she said but I still think it could have been consensual. The idea that he raped her relies on her declining mental state and I've never been convinced that it was real. He's also not been charged with rape and I'd expect a prosecutor to charge him with both rape and incest to force a plea deal. Maybe it'll happen but I doubt they don't have all the evidence available already.

Their relationship was fucking weird. One of the things he did with Mia Hamm was to give her a "strong-handed massage that [Barb] enjoyed in the past" and their later sexual relationship also involved those massages. Then the weird spooning after the fire a couple of years later for months that he had to buy a bed to stop. Barb was clearly thirsty, given that she had been flirting with the movers and the construction crew before it, and then she flipped out because he was doing it wrong. Barb grooming Chris, intentionally or not, fits pretty well with what he's saying now and what he said before. He's also been pretty consistent on her making the first move, but then again he's retarded.

Did he actually tell Barb that Mia was a prostitute? While I know that he told her immediately that he had sex with her, he also claimed they met at Walmart and didn't say that he paid for it "because she would freak." That said, she probably could have guessed if he showed her any pictures of her at all. It's interesting that he pairs her money issues with her telling him that she'd have sex with him.

You cant seriously be sayomg Chris might've been fucking his mom since 2012. Chris is literally incapable of keeping his flabbing trap shut. When has Chris ever effectively kept a secret for any prolonged span of time?
I don't think anybody's saying that, just that Barb was really creepy for a long time; they had cuddled since before Bob kicked the bucket. Chris was the one to cut off the spooning (after months). I think his attitude towards her only switched sometime around his sex dream about her and his awkward public announcement.
 
You cant seriously be sayomg Chris might've been fucking his mom since 2012. Chris is literally incapable of keeping his flabbing trap shut. When has Chris ever effectively kept a secret for any prolonged span of time?
No, I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that shit barb did back them definitely seems pretty groomy in retrospect. That said, unless any kind of detailed psych eval of both of them drops we might never know what exactly happened.
 
Chris is terrible and I'm pretty firmly in the mental hospital camp for his ultimate fate, but put it this way; if Chris was actually a TRUE and HONEST woman who had sex with her elderly father, with everything else about the case kept the same including years of receipts of the parent being creepy/controlling, what would the reaction be?
Chris's mental state/handicap is the only thing he really has going for him in that regard. Chris is male with male sexual desires and his autistic lack of regard for when sexual topics or behavior is appropriate makes it harder to determine whether he could recognize an inappropriate relationship between himself and his mother. Barb undoubtedly crossed lines, but a normal son would have not been willing to cuddle his mom in bed, and I sort of doubt sex was what Barb had in mind even if the contact was not appropriate. They have unhealthy co-dependence, which led to Chris's tard mind apparently deciding it was okay to push boundaries further. Versus a father molesting a daughter from a young age, I think the inappropriateness evolved between these two over years.

However, unless Chris's latest perspective on Barb being manipulative was fed to him by an outside party, it is equally likely that he took advantage of the situation with Barb in a more conscious and aware way than I'd have otherwise suspected.
 
So long story short, Chris (known compulsive liar) is trying to make himself the victim by dragging Barb and pinning the fact that HE FUCKED HIS MOTHER on her?

Even if it was true and she did tried to offer herself to him in 2012 after Mia Hamm, it doesn’t take more than a single brain-cell to say “No, I don’t want to fuck my mother and I don’t want to be around her for that”. I’m calling bullshit that it happened and Chris is still at fault if it did.
 
Worse than multiple autistic tranny rapes of his own elderly demented mother?

I would like to say that’s not possible, but we all know Chris has more cards to play… he can get lower!
I'm sure he can do it. His only strength is being the worst.
Don’t invest hope in Chris. He will disappoint and disgust you. Look at Null.
You mean make me laugh harder.
Idk, given Barb's previously documented creepy and abusive behavior years before the incestchu saga I think Chris's claims might have a grain of truth to them. I don't think either of them really belong out in society at this point, but ever since the story broke I've wondered about if it's possible bard was actually the groomy party instead? Especially since IIRC parent/child incest situations, even if both parties are adults, are usually situations of the parent grooming/abusing the child.

Chris is terrible and I'm pretty firmly in the mental hospital camp for his ultimate fate, but put it this way; if Chris was actually a TRUE and HONEST woman who had sex with her elderly father, with everything else about the case kept the same including years of receipts of the parent being creepy/controlling, what would the reaction be?
Yeah, I'm not convinced either way. I think it's not the whole truth and that he's not accurate in repeating what she said but I still think it could have been consensual. The idea that he raped her relies on her declining mental state and I've never been convinced that it was real. He's also not been charged with rape and I'd expect a prosecutor to charge him with both rape and incest to force a plea deal. Maybe it'll happen but I doubt they don't have all the evidence available already.

Their relationship was fucking weird. One of the things he did with Mia Hamm was to give her a "strong-handed massage that [Barb] enjoyed in the past" and their later sexual relationship also involved those massages. Then the weird spooning after the fire a couple of years later for months that he had to buy a bed to stop. Barb was clearly thirsty, given that she had been flirting with the movers and the construction crew before it, and then she flipped out because he was doing it wrong. Barb grooming Chris, intentionally or not, fits pretty well with what he's saying now and what he said before. He's also been pretty consistent on her making the first move, but then again he's retarded.

Did he actually tell Barb that Mia was a prostitute? While I know that he told her immediately that he had sex with her, he also claimed they met at Walmart and didn't say that he paid for it "because she would freak." That said, she probably could have guessed if he showed her any pictures of her at all. It's interesting that he pairs her money issues with her telling him that she'd have sex with him.


I don't think anybody's saying that, just that Barb was really creepy for a long time; they had cuddled since before Bob kicked the bucket. Chris was the one to cut off the spooning (after months). I think his attitude towards her only switched sometime around his sex dream about her and his awkward public announcement.

Barb was manipulative slut in her youth and Chris is a horny retard. This was a match made in Alabama. Whenever it was rape or not would depend on how aware Barbie-chan had been as of late. Armchairing aside, we don't know that.

Though even if consensual, that does not make it right or any less gross.
 
because he's copium'd/idea guys groomed into thinking his imaginary world was real.
Well yeah, that's my point. Sure, it started as daydreaming (the comic was just a way for him to live out his power fantasies, after all), but at a certain point around the time the finachu crisis got serious this "daydreaming" developed into a bona-fide break with reality. Conveniently, this happened shortly before or just as the Idea Guys contacted him, since at that point he was already receptive to their bullshit.
The one thing all daydreams have in common is that they're pleasant, while the stuff the Idea Guys were feeding him was edgy and dark. "Sane" Chris would have just ignored/denied negative changes to his mental universe, just as he used to deal with trollsome alterations to his headcanon in the past.
The IGs succeeded because Chris genuinely thought that CWCville was a real place before they started mindfucking him.
 
So long story short, Chris (known compulsive liar) is trying to make himself the victim by dragging Barb and pinning the fact that HE FUCKED HIS MOTHER on her?

Even if it was true and she did tried to offer herself to him in 2012 after Mia Hamm, it doesn’t take more than a single brain-cell to say “No, I don’t want to fuck my mother and I don’t want to be around her for that”. I’m calling bullshit that it happened and Chris is still at fault if it did.
He also said that she made the first move in the initial leaks that brought us to this nightmare. He’s been trying to minimize his culpability from the beginning
 
really wish people would stop with the whole schizo thing. chris is just a typical autist and the jesus larp/sonichu thing is an example of maladaptive daydreaming, something which is common in autists:
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chris isn't a particularily special autist, nor does he have some chemical imbalance in his brain that makes him see sonichus. if it really was then a steady course of meds would curb that. maladaptive daydreaming is both a conscious action and a compulsion you can't just med that away. chris is never going to get better because to do so he would have to let go of his security blanket daydreams and actively work with a therapist to achieve healthier coping mechanisms. and if you know anything about chris you know that's not happening.
People can actually be autistic and suffer from schizophrenic episodes, just as schizophrenic people can also suffer from bipolar disorder, with the manic episodes fueling their schizo episodes as it happened with terry davis for example.

Mental illnesses arent carved into stone. You can be diagnosed with more than one mental ailment, so I believe that, yes, Chris is an autist with schizophrenic episodes. He is also a retard, so makes three armchair diagnosis'.
 
So long story short, Chris (known compulsive liar) is trying to make himself the victim by dragging Barb and pinning the fact that HE FUCKED HIS MOTHER on her?

Even if it was true and she did tried to offer herself to him in 2012 after Mia Hamm, it doesn’t take more than a single brain-cell to say “No, I don’t want to fuck my mother and I don’t want to be around her for that”. I’m calling bullshit that it happened and Chris is still at fault if it did.
It seems he's under the current delusion of thinking that saying this will make the prosecution throw their hands up and say "ahh shit we gotta let him go now, it's all Barb's fault!" despite him admitting that he fucked his mother. No amount of backpedaling/victim blaming will detract from the fact that he fucked his elderly mother.
 
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