Mechanical Keyboard Autism Thread - Because Cherry MX switches get you laid.

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Only downside is that the CSTC40 I bought is kinda garbage
The kailh (if genuine) hotswap sockets started losing grip in the lower left corner and switches occasionally jumped out while typing which made that keyboard impossible to use. I am actually not convinced this is the fault of the sockets per se, I think there is too much tension on them because the whole thing is kinda warped in a way where you can't really bend it back. I could drill some holes into a better plate and screw it on which would also correct the case wonkiness but fuck it. If the case was nice modding would be worth it but it's a very cheap and bad-feeling case and that can't be modded. Do not buy the CSTC40. Even the $50 it costs right now is way too much.

I'm back to the Vortex PC66 for the time being and I forgot what a nice keyboard it is. I've been typing for a while on the ortho almost exclusively but funnily, my brain quickly adapted to the staggered layout again after a bit trial and error and it's like I never left.

My summary of my 40% ortho time is that it is in general slower. That's it. It's not less comfortable to type, it is not worse, but combos to reach some functions, "classical" key combinations like ctrl-<some key> and autoshift simply are a bit slower because the keyboard is small and human hands are relatively big and things like autoshift cause delays intrinsically. I would not say slower in a way that matters. You get some of that speed back by clever combos that are more central and generally less travel for your hands but I'd say at the end of the day it's probably pretty much +/- 0 for me in any given best case scenario and a bit slower otherwise. You feel kinda clever with all the combos you use and it's a satisfying experience having every single key always nearby, but I am not convinced it is "better" as in, more efficient. I also kinda think staggered keyboards look more stylish and it's also impossible to find a good keycap set that coves all bases and you pretty much have to go blank. (which although I touch-type I am not a fan of because of ~aesthetics~, YMMV obviously) The biggest takeaway for me was that QMK and programming your keyboard to suit your perfectly is really nice. I also love autoshift. I can't really say much about ergonomics as typing on both normal staggered layouts and grid layouts besides a warm-up phase didn't and doesn't bother me. I think the real problem for many is bad posture and bad habits. Then the new thing (be it planck or ergodex or whatever) fixed it all for them because it was the first time they actually consciously thought about how they type and use their computer and corrected those bad habits.

I got rid of my HHKB a while ago, since I didn't get that excited about Topre and while the keyboard and keys were very nice, it felt way too expensive for what it was. I did like the layout though, which was inspired in parts by Apple's M0110. The thing I found questionable about the HHKB was the lack of arrow keys (although that you might get used to, some people say the FN+arrow diamond is faster, I did not use mine long enough) and the weird, out-of-the-way placement of the slash/pipe key, a key you'd think would be placed more central on THE *nix keyboard (the ISO UK layout get's this right, make the left shift shorter, place that key between it and Z).

There's a M0110 "remake" with HHKB layout by vortex but having had quality issues with the first PC66 (covered in scratches) I got and ended up sending back and generally reading that vortex quality seems to be really hit and miss these days I don't think it's worth a try. There's a (somewhat, after all is said and done) cheaper remake of the M0110 on aliexpress (the "keybox" design) also QMK programmable and all. I love off-beige plastic cases and think it's the only true material for keyboards so I might actually buy that one, as a project. It would even allow for the HKKB layout with ISO-UK positioned pipe. Instead of using the "arrow diamond", I would program a wordstar-alike, toggleable navigation layer directly into the firmware. It's the only modifier-based navigation that ever made sense to me intuitively.
 
you're all severely autistic lmao

imagine spending over 50 bucks on a keyboard

membrane keyboards are just fine and last forever
I bought a good mechanical keyboard a few months back and I have to say that I'm not terribly impressed with the experience. It's fine, but the difference between it and any shitty old membrane keyboard I could buy at Walmart is pretty inconsequential to me.
 
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I bought a good mechanical keyboard a few months back and I have to say that I'm not terribly impressed with the experience. It's fine, but the difference between it and any shitty old membrane keyboard I could buy at Walmart is pretty inconsequential to me.
Other than sounding, looking and feeling pleasant there's not much more to it. People that don't understand that are genuinely autistic.
 
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Is the UHK worth the 380$ price ? Apparently it is made in EU
Can you even play FPS games on something like this or it's exclusively for coding
 
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Is the UHK worth the 380$ price ? Apparently it is made in EU
Can you even play FPS games on something like this or it's exclusively for coding
I'm sure for FPS games you just use your mouse. I know there's a whole community around it forum.ultimatehackingkeyboard.com but I don't know much about it. It looks like an interesting board though. The trackpad module looks really cool(maybe could be used for gaming?)
I've seen high end split ergo boards go for far above $380 and none of them had any kind of trackpad either. I'm not surprised at the cost, it seems super premium & highly configurable.
There is plenty of options that are around the $200-$300 range but I've never seen one quite like this. Some people refer to the UHK as their "endgame" keyboard. If you do get it I'd be interested to know more about it.
 
How do people "lose" stuff while moving, other than professional movers who steal stuff?
I've moved 3 times in the last 10 years, this is how:
1) Get boxes
2) Start putting things in boxes
3) Put something in the wrong box because you don't need a whole other box for it, but you may not want to have it separate.
4) That box was actually a box of non-essential items that you put to the side because you didn't need to unpack it immediately
5) Never get around to unpacking that box, hence the item stays lost forever.
 
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I'm sure for FPS games you just use your mouse. I know there's a whole community around it forum.ultimatehackingkeyboard.com but I don't know much about it. It looks like an interesting board though. The trackpad module looks really cool(maybe could be used for gaming?)
I've seen high end split ergo boards go for far above $380 and none of them had any kind of trackpad either. I'm not surprised at the cost, it seems super premium & highly configurable.
There is plenty of options that are around the $200-$300 range but I've never seen one quite like this. Some people refer to the UHK as their "endgame" keyboard. If you do get it I'd be interested to know more about it.
It's like 700$ with all the accessories, 380$ is strictly what's in the pic no palmrest no trackpad
 
It's like 700$ with all the accessories, 380$ is strictly what's in the pic no palmrest no trackpad
Jesus Christ, you could build some crazy fancy shit for that much but hey it's your money and i'm not aware of any other keeb that has a built in trackpad. I know it's not a split board but checkout this Neo Ergo https://www.qwertykeys.com/products/neo-ergo?variant=45660062351603 You can get it with a CF plate and a tri-mode hotswap PCB and a fancy wrist rest for like $180. Another interesting board is the glove 80 https://www.moergo.com/collections/...ic-keyboard-revision-2?variant=47282998739217 The split board that I would want to build is the Lily 58.
 
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JTK makes an ABS "SA-alike" HSA profile in doubleshot ABS that already comes glossy. I documented in an earlier post how I glossed a somewhat worn SA set (and what a retarded amount of work it was) but how nice it felt afterward. Since the biggest problem with ABS is shine, this solves it quite well and I can tell you from experience that it doesn't feel sticky like uneven shined ABS, but more like typing on a "warmer" kind of glass, so not at all unpleasant. I wish all ABS sets would come pre shined like this, actually.

This HSA profile is all over aliexpress too and is sold as "SA Profile" in various colors. It's a very nice and comfortable profile to type on (I have one such aliexpress keyset) maybe even nicer than actual SA. A good combination with box whites.
 
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JTK makes an ABS "SA-alike" HSA profile in doubleshot ABS that already comes glossy. I documented in an earlier post how I glossed a somewhat worn SA set (and what a retarded amount of work it was) but how nice it felt afterward. Since the biggest problem with ABS is shine, this solves it quite well and I can tell you from experience that it doesn't feel sticky like uneven shined ABS, but more like typing on a "warmer" kind of glass, so not at all unpleasant. I wish all ABS sets would come pre shined like this, actually.

This HSA profile is all over aliexpress too and is sold as "SA Profile" in various colors. It's a very nice and comfortable profile to type on (I have one such aliexpress keyset) maybe even nicer than actual SA. A good combination with box whites.
Looks cool I like the retro look. Personally i've tried a few but I prefer MT3 over SA. I tried SA because it's similar to MT3 and there's lots more options but nothing beats the feel and especially the sound of some thick PBT MT3 keycaps, the thock is the best of all. But they're exclusive to Drop and somewhat expensive. The Custom Dev set will work with any board though and comes in a variety of colors. I highly recommend them. https://drop.com/search/mt3/drops I accidnetally bought the 1800 set but any of these base kits are compatible with like everything. You just refer to the images for the color set you want. https://drop.com/buy/drop-matt3o-devtty-custom-keycap-set?defaultSelectionIds=977196
 

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These keycaps are actually closer to MT3 in profile than to SA. SA doesn't have this finger cradling "bowl" these and MT3 have. Aliexpress sellers call them SA and the manufacturer of the shiny ones came up with his own name but they really are MG profile, which is not that distant from MT3. SA is actually not the most comfortable keycap shape to type on, I like these more. I haven't owned an MT3 set yet but I actually read people comparing these favorably to MT3. I do like tall keycaps in general though, although I do understand they are not for everyone. (These are actually not all that tall, maybe a bit taller than cherry) I have a nice "rich coffee" brown set on my Vortex now and they look and feel pretty good, (these types of 'earthy' colors were absolutely everywhere in the 70s) although they have already started getting shiny from use.

..and that's the problem with ABS keycaps sets (Which I think most of MT3 is, even if not all) in general. I type a lot and they get shiny from wear, because how soft ABS is. The shininess isn't the big problem for me, it's the unevenness that makes them feel "dirty" and unpleasant. I was thinking about shining these like I shined my Dolch SA keycap set but alone the thought of it made my soul leave my body a little because of what a mind-numbing amount of work it is. It'd be nice to have a set that's pre-shined because it does feel nice and it can obviously not wear down to become shiny. (Yes, PBT is more robust against shining but it'll eventually shine too, just takes a bit longer - I type a lot)

From experience with my shiny SA set I can say though that keycaps that shiny scratch really easily, again, because ABS is really soft. You can buff these scratches out (because ABS is soft after all) but it happens.

Bakelite would be an amazing keycap material, it's hard and if you make it glossy it's just like glass and won't wear down, pretty much ever. It's not the strongest plastic though and it would be quite possible to break keycap stems if you are not careful I think. It's never gonna happen anyways.
 
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Yeah I like the flat look of PBT and of course they never get shiny. I've boughten a decent variety of cheaper keycaps, but the quality on these are insane and they have a texture to them which makes em great. It took a few days to get used to MT3, it feels really weird at first but now cherry just feels weird to type on. I really like the deep sound too, I'm always looking for alternative switches because they're so expensive but the glorious panda switches just really are my favorite to go with them. I've always wanted to try Bobas but they're seemingly always sold out from the places I'd buy from.
 
An update on my previous posting here. I ended up getting a used NuphyAir 75 as my first mechanical keyboard and had it arrived in the mail today. I am definitely not disappointed; it's small, compact, good build quality, and the short switches plus the low-profile keycaps feels extremely similar to the shitty laptop keyboards I love the feel of, except the travel is so, so much smoother. The person I bought it from even threw in a really nice, coiled cable and a bag of extra caps. The reactive rgb is a little over the top, but I kind of like it. Feels like I'm in a scifi movie, lol.
 
An update on my previous posting here. I ended up getting a used NuphyAir 75 as my first mechanical keyboard and had it arrived in the mail today. I am definitely not disappointed; it's small, compact, good build quality, and the short switches plus the low-profile keycaps feels extremely similar to the shitty laptop keyboards I love the feel of, except the travel is so, so much smoother. The person I bought it from even threw in a really nice, coiled cable and a bag of extra caps. The reactive rgb is a little over the top, but I kind of like it. Feels like I'm in a scifi movie, lol.
Yeah there's a huge used keyboard market, mercari & offer up are good. People are usually asking too much but you can find some good deals
 
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I bit the bullet and pre-ordered the UHK 80, i really hope it will last me a long time for the price
 
Yesterday I bought a full-size mechanical keyboard with blue switches for only 20 bucks at a clearance store, it is extremely addictive to try the feel and sound of the keys and play with the different lighting modes :)
 
Yesterday I bought a full-size mechanical keyboard with blue switches for only 20 bucks at a clearance store, it is extremely addictive to try the feel and sound of the keys and play with the different lighting modes :)
that's how it starts, next you're hunting down some vintage alps switches...
 
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Yeah, I love my mechanical keyboards! They're so cool! But my current keyboard is from last year, I really should buy a new one. This one looks good! Yeah, it's so cool becaus it's minimalist!! I want my keyboard to have LESS keys, I want to have LESS keys to press! PgUp and PgDown? Who needs those! All those other keys like Home and Insert? The keypad? Bah! Too many keys!! I don't need all those keys! I want LESS functionality!
I don't get it.
 
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It's interesting that you should react to the lack of Page Up and Page Down, but not the absence of arrow keys.
Anyway what you normally do with a 60% layout is use layers. You hold down a special key to make other keys do different things. Fn+J for instance might be down arrow, and Fn+Shift+J is Page Down. That specific setup is part of the HHKB layout, which is a pretty popular way to do things.
Getting rid of the numpad lets you move the keyboard more to the right without infringing on the space for your mouse, which is more ergonomic. You can put an external numpad to the left of the keyboard if you want, which I think is a better place for it anyway (you'll have your arms in front of you for typing, and use the left for number entry, which outside of certain jobs most people don't do a lot of).
I use a 60% keyboard (Model F reproduction "kishsaver"), and I'm happy with it. You'll need to memorise which keys you bound certain functions to, but once you do you'll find that a smaller layout lets you do more without taking your hands off home row.

That particular 60% board is a bit strange though, in that it's not obvious to me which key is the Fn key. Right control? I prefer the HHKB way of handling this, which is to split the right shift in two and having the right half be Fn.
 
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