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AncientPhosphur said:
The DOJ is considering TTD

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Seeing as how gender dysphoria was once officially a mental illness until the faggot activists got the head shrinkers to stop because being accurate about it was "cruel" and "stigmatizing". I support this. Troons and pooners should not have access to firearms the same way schizophrenics shouldn't.

Null said:
I israeli carry and people chew me out on it but I was wondering if maybe carrying with a blank in the chamber is a fair compromise? that way you don't have to rack it but if it misfires it poses no threat
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I assume by "misfire" you mean accidentally goes off? That would be a negligent discharge. A misfire is when you pull the trigger and the round doesn't go off.

If you have a decent quality pistol and you're doing things the way you're supposed to (i.e. keeping your booger hook off the bang switch unless you're certain you have to fire) then you shouldn't worry about an "accidental" discharge. I've been carrying for years both for personal protection and for work, always with a round in the chamber and ready to fire as soon as I draw the weapon, and I've never had a negligent or accidental discharge. Israeli carry is generally a terrible idea. If you do find yourself in a life or death situation with a genuine threat, you're losing valuable time trying to cycle the slide and chamber a round. It may not seem like a lot of time, but it's an eternity in a life or death situation. You're also introducing an unnecessary failure point by trying to fumble with the slide under extreme stress. There is a reason the vast majority of police agencies and every credible self defense shooting school operates with a round chambered. You do what you want, but I think you'll find most people here who know firearms and self defense shooting will recommend against Israeli carry.

Edit: regarding the blank, that's also a shit idea. It's similar to warning shots. If you're needing to bring a weapon out then it needs to warrant killing something. If you're not completely certain your life is in imminent danger, then that weapon stays holstered.
 
Null said:
I really regret not getting a gun that had a button press safety because I do not like that it can be fired with just the trigger without any confirmation when starting to shoot. I don't understand why this is unacceptable. I didn't know guns were made without button safeties.
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The good thing is that you don't have to limit yourself to one carry pistol. Head to a store local to you and specify your concerns and (hopefully) they will help you choose something that you like and makes you feel comfortable carrying with the safety you want.
 
Null said:
I israeli carry and people chew me out on it but I was wondering if maybe carrying with a blank in the chamber is a fair compromise? that way you don't have to rack it but if it misfires it poses no threat
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It’s fine to carry loaded, unless it’s a P320 you shouldn’t have any concerns. I just keep my Glock 19 in my holster loaded and never had any issues with it pointed directly at my boys. Drawing from concealment will add a second or so to your draw and last thing you want is to be fumbling with the slide at all in the moment you’re need it because of the stress and reaction. You’re just going to want to shoot.

Also funny thing with trigger safeties is even in competitions there’s times where I’ll forget. So if I’m using my 1911 or FNX45 there will sometimes be either draws or running to targets where my mind freezes and I pull the trigger and wonder what’s wrong.
 
Null said:
I israeli carry and people chew me out on it but I was wondering if maybe carrying with a blank in the chamber is a fair compromise? that way you don't have to rack it but if it misfires it poses no threat
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Null said:
I really regret not getting a gun that had a button press safety because I do not like that it can be fired with just the trigger without any confirmation when starting to shoot. I don't understand why this is unacceptable. I didn't know guns were made without button safeties.
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Have you considered trading your Glock 43 for a model with a thumb safety, if you feel so strongly? My buddy only carries handguns with safeties, and he is partial to S&W offerings, so that might be worth looking into. It would be better than Israeli carry (if you are in a serious situation, you probably won't have time to cycle the action), and a blank wouldn't work as an alternative. For what it's worth, I carry a Glock 48, which is just a slightly bigger 43, and I carry with one in the chamber at all times; as long as you have a good holster and practice proper trigger discipline, you will be fine.
 
Null said:
I really regret not getting a gun that had a button press safety because I do not like that it can be fired with just the trigger without any confirmation when starting to shoot. I don't understand why this is unacceptable. I didn't know guns were made without button safeties.
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You got a glonk?
Bro just appendix carry that thing! No worries! I swear!!!!!
And no, blank in chamber isnt a "compromise", pistols dont want to cycle a blank cartridge unless the gun has a blank firing adapter(this is true for almost every semi auto weapon, not enough pressure in barrel to cycle the gun,).
 
I'll also pile on here
Try this: enpty your gun, and put it in the holster. Try and pull the trigger while it's holstered. I bet you will have a hard time getting it to go off

I'd go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of people who shoot their nuts off are doing stupid shit, like not using a holster.
So as long as you're not tucking your gun into your gym shorts raw, and finger fucking it, you'll be good.

Just be careful reholstering, I think that is when you run the greatest risk of injury, thumb safety or not.

You could still get something with a thumb safety, as I said before. I had the same mentality. You will likely eventually decide that it is not necessary
 
Bogliacci said:
if you're afraid of it going off while holstered a blank can still do damage
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I don't remember the name off the top of my head, I think it was just a TV set with a no-name actor and all the equipment was working as intended so I don't think anyone gave a shit, but I remember reading about a guy who got bored while waiting around and thought it would be funny to put a blank-firing pistol to his head, he pulled the trigger and the blank shattered his skull and shotgunned his brain with bone fragments

As far as Israeli carry/manual safety goes, maybe get something like the Bodyguard 2.0 with a manual safety? Something that has decent holster support but will also always have a place as a pocket pistol even once/if you're comfortable with ready-to-go holster carry

I was considering buying one over the summer since I don't like using a holster with shorts, though at this point I'll probably hold off in the hopes that they release a factory optic ready and/or laser version like the original bodyguard

Personally when I started carrying, I carried the gun completely empty for a week just to get comfortable with it. Then I Israeli carried for a few weeks, then I started carrying with one in the tube. Nothing wrong with Israeli carry imo even if it's not 'optimal', you're definitely better off than not carrying at all
 
SaltyFantaMan said:
I'll also pile on here
Try this: enpty your gun, and put it in the holster. Try and pull the trigger while it's holstered. I bet you will have a hard time getting it to go off

I'd go out on a limb and say that the vast majority of people who shoot their nuts off are doing stupid shit, like not using a holster.
So as long as you're not tucking your gun into your gym shorts raw, and finger fucking it, you'll be good.

Just be careful reholstering, I think that is when you run the greatest risk of injury, thumb safety or not.

You could still get something with a thumb safety, as I said before. I had the same mentality. You will likely eventually decide that it is not necessary
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My carry gun lives inside its AIWB holster even when it's not being carried. Every morning before I head to work I put it in my pants and in front of my mirror draw. I take the holster out, put it back in the holster and do this three times. Keep your muscle memory on point. IRL reholstering speed is completely irrelevant. If I ever have to cap someone I'm not putting down the gun or reholstering until the cops arrive.
 
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Cant wait to see the faggots in the gun sphere freak out
 
Null said:
I didn't know guns were made without button safeties.
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Striker fired guns almost always have trigger safeties as their 'manual' safety mechanism.

Not wanting to CCW in condition 1 is really common when you start carrying. Since you've already been chewed out for it at length we don't have to go over why you shouldn't. Its still better to carry than to leave it at home.
However you're carrying, practice your draw and the steps you need to take to get the gun ready to fire until its unconscious.
 
Bogliacci said:
that would work too, especially with a decocker. The answer is Jersh carrying a mk23.
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That video really had me considering carrying, or at least tracking down a holster for, my usp tactical lol. I've been fidgeting with it at my desk for a bit and I think the weight would have me retiring it in under a week. Props to that dude for making it happen with the mk23 though

It do like the idea of DA/SA for carry though, I want to get my hands on a 92X compact and see how it feels, love that it can swap between manual safety with decocker and decocker only too
 
TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
That video really had me considering carrying, or at least tracking down a holster for, my usp tactical lol. I've been fidgeting with it at my desk for a bit and I think the weight would have me retiring it in under a week. Props to that dude for making it happen with the mk23 though

It do like the idea of DA/SA for carry though, I want to get my hands on a 92X compact and see how it feels, love that it can swap between manual safety with decocker and decocker only too
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My first carry gun was a cz-75 compact with the decocker. Just being able to keep my thumb over the hammer as some kind of peace of mind check helped a lot when I started carrying.
 
Null said:
I israeli carry and people chew me out on it but I was wondering if maybe carrying with a blank in the chamber is a fair compromise? that way you don't have to rack it but if it misfires it poses no threat
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Blank won’t cycle the slide so it’s the same as an unloaded chamber. Israeli carry is a bad idea, but not uncommon for people new to guns until they build confidence.
Null said:
I really regret not getting a gun that had a button press safety because I do not like that it can be fired with just the trigger without any confirmation when starting to shoot. I don't understand why this is unacceptable. I didn't know guns were made without button safeties.
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If we are talking about pistols, a quality holster that covers the trigger counts as the safety.
 
Fount of BadSpeak said:
My buddy only carries handguns with safeties, and he is partial to S&W offerings,
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I bought the M&P Shield Plus with a safety purely because it was cheaper, but I've decided it's very convenient having that added layer of security at the moment I holster the gun. Otherwise I just carry as if it were the standard safety-less gun.

Tacticool bros will swear up and down that any kind of safety will fail and render the gun inert when you need it, but that's more of a hypothetical whereas Glock leg is a well-known phenomenon.
 
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