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Pretend To Imagine said:
Did they have adequate penetration though? Birdshot will dump all the energy into the target, but not necessarily cause a physical stop.
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The point was to limit over pen in urban areas. I don't have any empirical evidence on their performance but they were well regarded for the time. the 200gr was really long for caliber so it should have produced a gnarly wound tract. IIRC they ran about 600FPS. it was a similar train of thought that the British had with their .455 and .38-200 "manstopper" rounds for their webleys.

It should also be remembered that the average police cartridge load at the time was the .38 special 158gr lead round nose. A load so anemic that it had the moniker "widowmaker" because it failed to stop criminals. this round is now marketed as a "light target" load.

The late 60s/70s saw great advances pistol cartridge development. the 38psl +P came out (pioneered by SuperVel), and hollow points started to get real dev time invested. police agencies finally started allowing the issuance of .357mag ammo during the crime waves and race riots. .44mag and .45 colt also got fairly widespread adoption during this time.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
The point was to limit over pen in urban areas. I don't have any empirical evidence on their performance but they were well regarded for the time. the 200gr was really long for caliber so it should have produced a gnarly wound tract. IIRC they ran about 600FPS. it was a similar train of thought that the British had with their .455 and .38-200 "manstopper" rounds for their webleys.

It should also be remembered that the average police cartridge load at the time was the .38 special 158gr lead round nose. A load so anemic that it had the moniker "widowmaker" because it failed to stop criminals. this round is now marketed as a "light target" load.

The late 60s/70s saw great advances pistol cartridge development. the 38psl +P came out (pioneered by SuperVel), and hollow points started to get real dev time invested. police agencies finally started allowing the issuance of .357mag ammo during the crime waves and race riots. .44mag and .45 colt also got fairly widespread adoption during this time.
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This also reminds me of a gun store employee who carried a .22 mag revolver loaded with .17 HMR because they “keyhole” on the target. I would love to see a gel test with that and those 200gr 38s
 
ifunny pride world wide said:
I don't even bother with gunshows anymore. My local gunshow still has the same exact inventory as it did a decade ago. I remember going the day I turned 18 to buy my first (non-straw purchase) gun and then coming back on leave from a deployment 6-7 years later only to see the same exact guns. I saw the same exact firearms "for sale" that I did when I was 18.
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I agree with this. I have rarely gone over the past 10 years but like gun stores usually either go with a friend to look at stuff or get my hands on things I want to buy for less online. Other than the Glock clones and retarded riced out "competition" strikerslop there's pretty much nothing that wasn't there 10 years ago for half the price. I did see a couple of common handguns at non-retarded prices at the last one I went to earlier this year but I only saw like two or three guns that qualified as rare. I knew it was over for gun shows when I started seeing Mosin Nagants for over $300.

The Trump themed guns are worth a chuckle at least, there are a shockingly large number of them out there.
 
An Account said:
The virgin 5.56 that only starts tumbling when it hits something vs. the chad ring of fire .25acp that starts tumbling straight from the muzzle.
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ring of fire guns fuck hard yo
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Pretend To Imagine said:
Glock collectors will complain about how many of them were “bubba’d” with frame and slide modifications and other aftermarket parts.
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And the cycle continues once again: today's cheap, common gun that pretty much grows on trees is tomorrow's collectible that should stay unchanged.

Just never thought it would happen with Glocks of all guns.
 
Internet-Based Lobotomy said:
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I'm wondering what this will be function wise. Maybe a .308 M1337? I don't think he's going to release anything requiring SOT shit and demo letters although an electronic mini gun would be pretty wild.
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He's the guy that designed and uploaded a 3d printed m1337 (odysee link).
I know someone who made it; claims it cost him about $1,000 and lots of time and trouble.
I assume he's adding files for the belt and box featured in this image.
edit: He's releasing version 1.0
 
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Anyone have any experience with the Beretta 30x tomcat? Never been able to find one to rent. Looking for someone who wants to start carrying, but their arthritis makes slide manipulation difficult for them.
 
Bruger & Thornet is running with the KH9 design. I kinda liked it as it is because it looks like a new age Thompson without being shit, but their new variants include a side mounted magazine and one set up for not-Bizon magazines.
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WASR96 said:
Anyone have any experience with the Beretta 30x tomcat? Never been able to find one to rent. Looking for someone who wants to start carrying, but their arthritis makes slide manipulation difficult for them.
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As someone who also wants a tiny Beretta, I'd sooner recommend looking into the S&W EZ instead if it's going to be a primary carry piece. I haven't handled one myself but I've heard great things.
 
WASR96 said:
Anyone have any experience with the Beretta 30x tomcat? Never been able to find one to rent. Looking for someone who wants to start carrying, but their arthritis makes slide manipulation difficult for them.
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I don't have the 30X but I do have the new 3032 tomcat covert.
Standard sights, threaded barrel, Three magazines.
Has the old mag release in the grip & the barrel lach is a lever.
I like it but I'm kinda biased to Beretta.
The 30X is probably the better option.
It's modernized with a better mag release where you expect it to be and the barrel latch is a push button instead of a lever.
You can swap the sights on it if you don't like the factory.
In a do-over I would have got the 30X over the covert.
WhoBusTank69 said:
Bruger & Thornet is running with the KH9 design. I kinda liked it as it is because it looks like a new age Thompson without being shit, but their new variants include a side mounted magazine and one set up for not-Bizon magazines.
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As someone who also wants a tiny Beretta, I'd sooner recommend looking into the S&W EZ instead if it's going to be a primary carry piece. I haven't handled one myself but I've heard great things.
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I have an EZ 380. Little big for a pocket imo.
I'm nothing but satisfied with it and it's FAR easier to manipulate that any of the mini Berettas.
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WhoBusTank69 said:
As someone who also wants a tiny Beretta, I'd sooner recommend looking into the S&W EZ instead if it's going to be a primary carry piece. I haven't handled one myself but I've heard great things.
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DocAwe said:
I don't have the 30X but I do have the new 3032 tomcat covert.
Standard sights, threaded barrel, Three magazines.
Has the old mag release in the grip & the barrel lach is a lever.
I like it but I'm kinda biased to Beretta.
The 30X is probably the better option.
It's modernized with a better mag release where you expect it to be and the barrel latch is a push button instead of a lever.
You can swap the sights on it if you don't like the factory.
In a do-over I would have got the 30X over the covert.
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Awesome. I guess I'll make the drive out to my former FFL since they had a wide selection of rental handguns to try to get them to handle both and see what they think. Appreciate it!
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Bruger & Thornet is running with the KH9 design. I kinda liked it as it is because it looks like a new age Thompson without being shit, but their new variants include a side mounted magazine and one set up for not-Bizon magazines.
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As someone who also wants a tiny Beretta, I'd sooner recommend looking into the S&W EZ instead if it's going to be a primary carry piece. I haven't handled one myself but I've heard great things.
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that is cool as shit, especially the side mount.
 
DocAwe said:
I have an EZ 380. Little big for a pocket imo.
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The equalizer is closer. It's not as tall as the EZs with a flush mag in it, basically a half inch longer than my CSX-E or the nearly identically sized Shield plus. I don't see the point of the EZs now that the Equalizer exists, it's the same size with an extended magazine and is double stack. The only application I could see is for the .380 EZ is someone frail/arthritic for whom standard pressure 9mm is still a bit rough on the hand.
 
A wholesome gun related happening has occurred.

A long time client came in today and handed me a Ziploc bag of like at least 100 loose .223 - apparently he was cleaning out his gun safe and figured I'd use it before he ever did.

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WhoBusTank69 said:
Bruger & Thornet is running with the KH9 design. I kinda liked it as it is because it looks like a new age Thompson without being shit, but their new variants include a side mounted magazine and one set up for not-Bizon magazines.
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As someone who also wants a tiny Beretta, I'd sooner recommend looking into the S&W EZ instead if it's going to be a primary carry piece. I haven't handled one myself but I've heard great things.
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I love B&T stuff, and I like that their owner is a gun aficionado with an interest in odd firearms. I hope these aren't 3 grand a pop like most their offerings though lmfao.
 
Fount of BadSpeak said:
I love B&T stuff, and I like that their owner is a gun aficionado with an interest in odd firearms. I hope these aren't 3 grand a pop like most their offerings though lmfao.
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I've enjoyed the TP9 I was able to get some range time with, but I couldn't justify the price to own one myself since I already have other guns that fill that role.
 
WASR96 said:
I've enjoyed the TP9 I was able to get some range time with, but I couldn't justify the price to own one myself since I already have other guns that fill that role.
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I came damn close to convincing myself to get one of the new TP9 Pros, but went with the Vector. It was mostly down to price, but the Vector also has that futuristic "wow" factor for me. The TP9 SBR'd would make a helluva backpack gun though.
 
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