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The real question should be: Why has the development of PDW's that can punch through armor stopped at the P90/MP7?

SBRs are why.

HK hasn't even made a companion pistol to the MP7.

HK actually did make a FiveseveN-esque companion pistol to the MP7, they just never released it and no military or agency ordered it IIRC. Forgot what it was called though.
 
I think I can see cracks but I'll have to find my borescope or find a new one. In the meantime I'll consider a 38spl barrel/cyl assembly until I can clearly see the damage if any. Everything else about the gun is perfect except the bulge
1. if you can see actual cracks it is absolutely unsafe. I would not shoot it. wall hanger. buy another.

2. 38 special is too long for the enfields/webley .38 revolvers. they are all in .38 S&W, a fine round but it never really competed with 38 special post WW2. historical accounts say the british .38 load which used a 200gr bullet was a good man stopper. real low velocities, right on the ragged edge of stable so when it hits flesh it tumbles. killed a lot of uppity colonials in Africa.
 
HK actually did make a FiveseveN-esque companion pistol to the MP7, they just never released it and no military or agency ordered it IIRC. Forgot what it was called though.
that was the H&K UCP. aesthitically you can see it as a missing link between the USP and the HK45.
early prototype ~2003/4
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final design:
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program was dropped in 2009 IIRC due to lack of interest from government purchasers.
 
The cops up in brampton (shithole suburb north of Toronto, infamous for its demographics being like 60% "south asian")
Have done a firearms seizure, check out the latest and most dangerous weapons the newest batch of Canadians are using.
Some interesting items in there. The Sterling is impressive, assuming it is auto and not SA. The Ithaca M37 is very cool, but too bad they hacked the stock off. The single bar, bottom eject action on those is dope. Actually impressed to see a Geissele Mk4 rail on a confiscated ghetto AR. The rest of that AR looks like it has ashy skin for some reason. Obligator Glock with a switch, and what the hell are they hunting with that Ruger American, LOL?
 
(I wonder how much you could take off that A2 stock without ruining the integrity... I know some of them are hollowed-out with the removable buttpad for equipment...)
 
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First of all ewwww.
Well that's just like, your opinion, man.


Second, aren’t you worried about getting the correct mass and spring with that proprietary setup? Many more options for a standard carbine tube, or A5. Does your gun have a rifle length buffer and spring, or is there a spacer and shorter buffer and spring?
Honestly, I hadn't even thought of that. I know it has a rifle length H buffer, and I am pretty sure its just a standard A2 stock based on dimensions. I'll dig more into it when I get home.
 
rifle length H buffer
what is a "rifle length H buffer"? the standard AR-10 buffer is 5.4oz and a bit over 5-1/4" long, which is a tad heavier but slightly shorter than the 5.2oz 5-7/8" long standard AR-15 rifle buffer. the "H" nomenclature isn't really used for AR-10/LR-308 rifles; it was a thing for AR-15 carbines to moderate the action when combined with specific gas port sizes or with a suppressor. an H (or H1 "heavy" carbine buffer for the AR-15 is 3.8oz, which is a little too heavy/long for a carbine LR-308 unless you have a short action spring (which is thicker gauge wire and fewer coils than an AR-15 spring).

i would have thought it would use the normal AR-10 buffer and spring rather than something unusual.
 
I'm thinking instead of getting the SD40 2.0 right now, I might want a 22 Ruger Wrangler rn. Specifically this one:
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Could afford it now, it's available, and I'd finally have a 22lr. I could just keep all the ammo and hardware I got for the SD40 2.0 for another time, it wouldn't go wasted. And i still have my 38 special snubbie for defense. I don't need the .40 cal NOW NOW NOW.

On the other end, It also feels impulsive. It's going to be there no matter what. And it's still just a single action 22 at the end of the day. A pretty one, but that's what it is. It'd be nice for practicing revolver shit without breaking out the 38, but I also have a lot of 38.

Really what do you guys think? Yes or no?
 
I'm thinking instead of getting the SD40 2.0 right now, I might want a 22 Ruger Wrangler rn. Specifically this one:
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Could afford it now, it's available, and I'd finally have a 22lr. I could just keep all the ammo and hardware I got for the SD40 2.0 for another time, it wouldn't go wasted. And i still have my 38 special snubbie for defense. I don't need the .40 cal NOW NOW NOW.

On the other end, It also feels impulsive. It's going to be there no matter what. And it's still just a single action 22 at the end of the day. A pretty one, but that's what it is. It'd be nice for practicing revolver shit without breaking out the 38, but I also have a lot of 38.

Really what do you guys think? Yes or no?
The cylinder doesn't swing out which makes it take ages to reload, and you have to be very careful to not drop the hammer on an empty cylinder or you'll peen it with the firing pin. The sights also blow.

I bought a wrangler years ago and it was fun for like 10 minutes and then sat on a shelf. Buy a semi auto .22 like a Ruger mark IV or a kel tec p17, you'll have more fun.
 
what is a "rifle length H buffer"? the standard AR-10 buffer is 5.4oz and a bit over 5-1/4" long, which is a tad heavier but slightly shorter than the 5.2oz 5-7/8" long standard AR-15 rifle buffer. the "H" nomenclature isn't really used for AR-10/LR-308 rifles; it was a thing for AR-15 carbines to moderate the action when combined with specific gas port sizes or with a suppressor. an H (or H1 "heavy" carbine buffer for the AR-15 is 3.8oz, which is a little too heavy/long for a carbine LR-308 unless you have a short action spring (which is thicker gauge wire and fewer coils than an AR-15 spring).

i would have thought it would use the normal AR-10 buffer and spring rather than something unusual.
The "H" is for "Homonculus" and there's a little green creature with a bulbous head that lives in the tube and catches the BCG and throws it back at the barrel.
 
The cylinder doesn't swing out which makes it take ages to reload, and you have to be very careful to not drop the hammer on an empty cylinder or you'll peen it with the firing pin. The sights also blow.

I bought a wrangler years ago and it was fun for like 10 minutes and then sat on a shelf. Buy a semi auto .22 like a Ruger mark IV or a kel tec p17, you'll have more fun.
Again, it's just something I thought about. Honestly would probably be better off getting a 10/22 for a trainer/cheap plinker since they're similar in cost.
 
I'm thinking instead of getting the SD40 2.0 right now, I might want a 22 Ruger Wrangler rn. Specifically this one:
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Could afford it now, it's available, and I'd finally have a 22lr. I could just keep all the ammo and hardware I got for the SD40 2.0 for another time, it wouldn't go wasted. And i still have my 38 special snubbie for defense. I don't need the .40 cal NOW NOW NOW.

On the other end, It also feels impulsive. It's going to be there no matter what. And it's still just a single action 22 at the end of the day. A pretty one, but that's what it is. It'd be nice for practicing revolver shit without breaking out the 38, but I also have a lot of 38.

Really what do you guys think? Yes or no?
IMO .22 doesn’t even feel like shooting a real gun. The only reason I keep mine around is for my kids.
 
IMO .22 doesn’t even feel like shooting a real gun. The only reason I keep mine around is for my kids.
I consider .22lr a spicy pellet rifle, more or less, and deploy mine for such appropriate tasks as general pest management, and the occasional tin can if I need to check the zero.

A good gun to grab when you don't need a lot of gun, which is surprisingly often in a rural area.
 
I'm thinking instead of getting the SD40 2.0 right now, I might want a 22 Ruger Wrangler rn. Specifically this one:
View attachment 6574236
Could afford it now, it's available, and I'd finally have a 22lr. I could just keep all the ammo and hardware I got for the SD40 2.0 for another time, it wouldn't go wasted. And i still have my 38 special snubbie for defense. I don't need the .40 cal NOW NOW NOW.

On the other end, It also feels impulsive. It's going to be there no matter what. And it's still just a single action 22 at the end of the day. A pretty one, but that's what it is. It'd be nice for practicing revolver shit without breaking out the 38, but I also have a lot of 38.

Really what do you guys think? Yes or no?
If you want a SA .22 revolver, get a cheap and cheerful heritage Rough Rider.

If you find you really enjoy a SA .22, then save up get a Ruger Single Six
 
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