Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Buttigieg2020]

Good way to catch aids considering the types Null would delete, best to just fire until they stop moving.

That’s true. Apparently one of the worst parts of a home invasion is the cleanup afterwards.

A small pistol like the Sig P365 would be good. Florida has permit-less concealed carry now, so Josh can shop for cheese while being armed.

 

[quaawaa]

Are there special permits I can qualify for to get 5.56 in AP?

Like if a bunch of ANTIFA supersoldiers fed the highest quality of soy and niggerdick decide to strap on IV and storm the gates of my Fortified Swamp, I want to gun them down.

I've heard M933 (a loading of 7.62x51) can knock through level IV plates, but I don't know where you could find it.

A few years ago, someone on /k/ made a guide on how to make tungsten core ammo at home.

https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/47893608/

https://odysee.com/@apanon:a/APAnon_Version_1.0:b

 

[Dean Pentel]

Disabled people can shoot guns at you. People writhing in pain on the ground can shoot guns at you. Why do you think cops mag dump every single time?

As stated by others in the thread, police are trained to shoot to end the threat. Don't forget that unless you're LE, you will be treated very differently than they are if you get into a fight that involves gunfire. Whatever you actually do should that happen, tell every legal entity that you fired to end an immediate threat to your life/life of a loved one. Then if you're not administering aid to someone that just tried seriously injure or kill you, it's because you're calling 911 and requesting two ambulances. One for your opponent(s) and one for you because you're in shock. Then you get legal counsel and do not talk to the cops without it. This is what I was instructed to do.

I want to get a semi-auto because of the short-stroke that is possible with pump action. If you are ever in a dangerous situation you'd know how hard keeping calm and doing things right can be.

You're right about this but it applies far less to trained people. Get training, practice regularly, and you can be very deadly and efficient with anything that operates reliably.

Null just need to find a level 4 plate from Hesco

Can recommend the Hesco 4800 plates. Not cheap but definitely excellent.

To add to this good advice, competitions are a decent way to simulate the hotdog fingers effect under pressure.

I know I've yapped about the utility of competitions on here before, but it bears repeating. What's required to win at matches is nearly identical to what's required to win a gunfight: put rounds into targets more quickly and more accurately than everyone else while moving efficiently. A match is an excellent crucible for one's skill at that point in time. If you're honest with your performance assessment you can get some excellent feedback.

Josh, I recommend you pay for good equipment and that won't be cheap. Get trained and practice your dry-firing regularly and you'll see you can become proficient with weapons pretty damn quick. It takes a lot less actually firing live ammo than you might think. Do remember that combat capabilities of any sort are perishable skills so be sure to treat them accordingly.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

For peak armor autism, Null should watch Buffman's armor tests. It's a good idea to know what exactly happens to a plate when hit with a high caliber rifle round. Penetration isn't the only thing that can cause injuries.

https://www.youtube.com/@BuffRANGE

 

[EggImpregnator]

Why's everyone so obsessed with "competition" pistols? Like nigger I'm not carrying some faggot ass heavy ass gun every day. Is there any competitions where these guns are banned and you have so shoot what you carry everyday?

 

[Justtocheck]

Someone should do KWF/Null edit of this John WIck scene at this point

Null: Hey gun guys, I'm moving back to the US and I want some advice on how to defend myself and my property.

Mega Rad Gunners: Okay cool, just get a normal AR, a pistol, train hard with them. Hire an instructor and maybe go to some matches. Get some plates if SHTF and a regular carrier. Have a good home security system and be alert. That should be it, really. Maybe learn first aid.

Null: Thank you so much for your invaluable input!

I've already ordered $40,000 panoramic NODs, a mount and a Tier 1 helmet, an HK 416, EOTECH with a magnifier and 10,000 rounds of AP tungsten .223 with a NOVESKE can, plus my 5.7 gun with ammo. Flame resistant clothes, smoke grenades and IR lasers and illuminators. I just need to get a bit fit, lose some pounds and no troon will be able to touch me.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Why's everyone so obsessed with "competition" pistols? Like nigger I'm not carrying some faggot ass heavy ass gun every day. Is there any competitions where these guns are banned and you have so shoot what you carry everyday?

There is something out there called I believe the out of the box competitions where you use just that, a pistol that is unmodified out of the box.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Why's everyone so obsessed with "competition" pistols? Like nigger I'm not carrying some faggot ass heavy ass gun every day. Is there any competitions where these guns are banned and you have so shoot what you carry everyday?

If you’re not carrying a full size tungsten frame pistol, how can you be sure it will work as a club when you run out of ammo?

 

[Justtocheck]

There is something out there called I believe the out of the box competitions where you use just that, a pistol that is unmodified out of the box.

I think you mean production gun category in competitions. Popular with people like Ben Stoeger.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

What is this, 2011?

At least go .277 Fury, fancy rangefinding thermal optic for $20k, full kevlar BDUs Ukraine style, thermal camouflage blanket, handheld spy drones, etc.

Don't think the full body kevlar BDUs made it to the west yet. It's about the equivalent of level IIA, meant against shrapnel.

 

[Big Brutus]

The upper is very well accurate and impressive.

...

Though on a side note, have fired both the 20 inch PSA premium upper with the FN barrel and this colt upper.

The accuracy and groupings are almost indistinguishable.

I have a PSA Freedom 16 inch upper on a PSA Freedom MOE Edition lower. I can routinely get 2 MOA groups with M193 ammo, so from what I read, I got really lucky and didn't get a lemon.

On a side note, my rifle feeds very reliably. Never had a hiccup of any sort. Meanwhile, there was a guy at the range that had a $2k rifle in .300 Blackout and he was having constant failures to feed.

ETA that I remember reading the M193 standard is 4 MOA. I've seen rifles with good barrels crank out 1 MOA with M193, I thought it was impossible.

 

[RSU 1741]

i saw this pop up in one of my local shops the other week, dos anyone know if these SVT-40s are any fun to shoot, been playing enlisted and i like the way they look

I know I'm late and everyone has already told you the basics (that's a finnicky rifle that doesn't like fouling, wrong types of ammo an' shit):

- Check the magazines. SVT-40 were issued with three mags and often they were hand-fitted to the gun because the Soviets could not into standardization (SVTs were being produced to common specs from all factories in... 1944). Don't think the mag that will come with the gun will work with the gun, problems with feeding are common with mismatched SVT magazines.
- Check what the hell are you buying. From the pic, the muzzle break and the top barrel shroud are from an early type, but that means nothing if the gun is a refurb (check for a inverted angular U symbol near the year/arsenal markings). Your pic lacks the typical finish of a refurb (brown bolt and shellac on wood) but that means nothing as American collectors were notorious for ... "restoring" SVTs. Or maybe you're lucky and it's a Finn capture (SA markings). Check for electro-pencil serial number on the bolt, that's another sign of a refurb.
- Hope for the accessories, particularly the gas tool. Doesn't matter if it's a reproduction, it's handy to have.

Good luck. As Chumak himself said on his magnum opus on SVTs, it's a pity that such a beautiful rifle was a such a disappointment in battle.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

I'm reconsidering my comment about gun mounted cameras specifically for on property shit-hitting-the-fan: very good security camera coverage of all angles, plus a BWC (mounted anywhere but your head), may be a better way to ensure evidence for on-property incursion attempts. It's also WAY less novel, which probably would play better in court. You want that potential evidence to look as little like a certain event in the land of Kiwis as possible, because you know lawyers will do whatever they can to link you to that if a nightmare scenario went down.

 

[quaawaa]

Don't think the full body kevlar BDUs made it to the west yet. It's about the equivalent of level IIA, meant against shrapnel.

A company called ProtectTheForce used to sell a shirt with integrated 3A panels around the shoulders and neck. It was called Flex9Armor, marketed towards SWAT teams. They codeveloped the garment with the US Army. I don’t think it caught on because they appear to have gone out of business.

 

[Napoleon III]

do you plan on wearing body armor 24/7? if so, you might be best served by outright leaving the area where you are threatened - avoiding a fight and risk of death entirely or greatly reducing it.

No But I'd expect to have 15 seconds or so to put it on. You are right that if I get caught out I' won't have it.

pretty much any firearm that is lethal enough for self defense in the home is going to readily zip through interior walls on misses and has a chance of over-penetrating the target on a hit.

Good to know I'll look at the material and thickness and find good data. If it doesn't matter either way then I get some kind of carbine.

tactical courses held a few times a year geared towards this sort of thing

You're right about this but it applies far less to trained people. Get training, practice regularly, and you can be very deadly and efficient with anything that operates reliably.

Some training is not a bad idea and while I'm a good shot for my level of practice I need to get better. But I don't have infinite time.

f you have enemies that are actively hunting you down, that is something to involve law enforcement for

no, no I don't, I was just in a situation that while not even really THAT serious confirmed to me that I need the ability to win most of what could come my way.

Okay, so no standard NATO cartridge will pierce L4 plates. Is that the consensus?

There is 50. Cal. I think it is kind of retarded to actually plan to use it. But it may not be retarded to say you have it so trannies know you can pierce anything they wear.

More serious option is .338 Lapua which the AP rounds can definitely pierce L4 Plate. AP rounds might be hard to get though, I don't believe it is illegal to own.

Also I think 5.56 is perfectly fine for a marksman rifle. The 7.62 thing is kind of a meme from Afghanistan and also a reason for the army to spend way too much fucking money on a new Rifle. 5.56 is really good and there is a reason all modern armies including Russia and China gives their soldiers something that is about as powerful as 5.56. The ability to shoot with not that much recoil is good.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

A company called ProtectTheForce used to sell a shirt with integrated 3A panels around the shoulders and neck. It was called Flex9Armor, marketed towards SWAT teams. They codeveloped the garment with the US Army. I don’t think it caught on because they appear to have gone out of business.

Interesting, I can see it making a comeback now with that whole drone situation.

It's fascinating seeing drone and anti-drone technology develop in real time. Not just shotguns, they got personal EW units in the field now.

An interesting option for placing a personal electronic warfare unit on a Dozor soldier of the State Border Guard Service during the battles in Volchansk.

If anyone is interested, here's a test of that ballistic suit. In Russian but can turn on subs.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

I have a PSA Freedom 16 inch upper on a PSA Freedom MOE Edition lower. I can routinely get 2 MOA groups with M193 ammo, so from what I read, I got really lucky and didn't get a lemon.

On a side note, my rifle feeds very reliably. Never had a hiccup of any sort. Meanwhile, there was a guy at the range that had a $2k rifle in .300 Blackout and he was having constant failures to feed.

ETA that I remember reading the M193 standard is 4 MOA. I've seen rifles with good barrels crank out 1 MOA with M193, I thought it was impossible.

PSA opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one, and mine is inalienable and perfect. PSA rocks. There were teething pains at first, but they're really getting their shit down.

 

[CEO of Posting]

Recently picked up an ATS Aegis v3 PC and a pair of NIJ rated level III plates. To compliment this, I got an ATS 'warbelt' too.

I used to make fun of dorks who would rock a PC and a warbelt, but I finally did it and it's super fun. It's added a new dimension to range days where I would up a bunch of shit in my range bag, run some CCW drills for 20 minutes, get bored, and leave.

Now I can go out and train with and around my kit. Find out where snags and hang ups are, fix 'em, then try to run with it better.

Getting the plate carrier is great too because democrats are trying to outlaw civilian ownership of body armor, so it's best to get them before they are. I might get another set of III multicurve ceramic plates just in case, but I spent about 1250 bucks on this set.

 

[Jump]

Plates? Expensive rifles with fancy calipers?

If Josh moves back to Florida then its all so simple. He just needs to just embrace his Florida Man DNA and he will be fine.
Gun? HI-POINT 9mm
Body armor? Dirty white wife beater
Head protection? Pit Viper sunglasses.
Done.


But seriously if he is just starting out I would get something super popular and boring like a sig 365, glock19, walther pdp, etc. Something that there are lots of brand new examples of in his local gun store that he can pick up and see what feels right in his hand. Then spend the money on training and maybe get in to some casual competition. Get the muscle memory down pat on the basics then move on to the tacticool and custom shit.
Just being a consoomer and spending tons on gear and zero training other then youtube videos isn't going to work out in a real high stress self defense situation.

 

[Agares]

Plates? Expensive rifles with fancy calipers?

If Josh moves back to Florida then its all so simple. He just needs to just embrace his Florida Man DNA and he will be fine.
Gun? Kel-Tec P50, the 5.7mm pistol of his dreams
Body armor? Dirty white wife beater
Head protection? Pit Viper sunglasses.
Done.

Fixed it for you. Null should support the local economy after all.