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Sarco has gotten a small crate of Ruger P85's. these are absolute tanks of a pistol and will eat +P all day every day. however these are 1st issue pistols from the late 1980's that were mothballed by a police agency and are now being sold off to clear inventory. that means they do not have the Mk II enhanced safety. the enhanced safety was a modification where, together with a plunger and grub screw under the rear sight, the FP would be positively blocked.


Ruger will still perform the safety modification to P85 owners and iirc will ship a P85 magazine or coupon depending on their inventory, even today. https://ruger.com/pdf/P85.pdf

for mags, the P85/P89/P93/P94/P95 magazines all interchange with only minor fitting differences between the P85 and P89 and newer series. you can also use P95 magazines in a P85 although they might not be drop free without fitting. Mec-Gar still makes magazines for this series of pistols.


you should see the ads from EAA...
They are very good guns. I got a P89 NIB in 2021 or 22 (can't remember) and its a great pistol. it had a fantastic DA trigger out of the box.
 
They are very good guns. I got a P89 NIB in 2021 or 22 (can't remember) and its a great pistol. it had a fantastic DA trigger out of the box.
I'd say it's a bit of a surprise how good those older Ruger pistols could be. My first centerfire pistol experience came by way of a P90. While I'd never own one now I do have fond memories of it.

Getting back to Josh and him setting up his Florida-swampland-tranny-commando-interdiction-zone, if nobody has recommended this to him I'll be the first: get and stay fit. It's impossible to emphasize how important this is. Fit, strong people are so much better in a fight and a lot harder to kill. I and others here can testify to this from firsthand experience. I say this is much more important than what weapons you choose to buy and use. Next, don't forget to train regularly with your kit. Sprinting with a rifle is not as straight forward as you think. Getting into and out of positions wearing a loaded plate carrier takes practice, plus you'll want to set it up specifically for how you like it. You really only achieve that understanding by training with it. Plus you get to see how many different ways your sling can catch on your pouches/mags/radio/knife/hydration stuff.

None of this stuff is particularly complex, even the single man CQB stuff. It's all perishable skills, though. And like others have said, if you want a rifle or PCC setup for use inside your house, get a suppressor on it if you can. I personally don't run subs so it's not actually hearing safe but it's a fuck of a lot better than without a suppressor on a short-barreled weapon.
 
you should see the ads from EAA...
Those things were interesting for sure. Shame EAA pistols aren't very good, although their Baikal and Saiga imports were nice.
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EAA pistols aren't very good
EAA imports Tanfoglio and IMI/IWI stuff with a smattering of H&K, Hellenic Arms, Vector SA, Steyr, et c. the kinda junky stuff comes with the territory i guess since they were a big pusher of Rossi, Rohm (remember them?), when Chiappa was still really rough (Charles Daly shotguns), and various Turkish firearms of varying quality. even got some Egyptian stuff out of them in the 90's. i'd say their Tanfoglio is fine, and both Girsan and Sarsilmaz are serviceable, with Girsan being a decent Beretta clone on par with a PT92/99 type pistol.
 
EAA imports Tanfoglio and IMI/IWI stuff with a smattering of H&K, Hellenic Arms, Vector SA, Steyr, et c. the kinda junky stuff comes with the territory i guess since they were a big pusher of Rossi, Rohm (remember them?), when Chiappa was still really rough (Charles Daly shotguns), and various Turkish firearms of varying quality. even got some Egyptian stuff out of them in the 90's. i'd say their Tanfoglio is fine, and both Girsan and Sarsilmaz are serviceable, with Girsan being a decent Beretta clone on par with a PT92/99 type pistol.
I should have clarified, the witness line, and their revolvers aren't good.
 
especially in 357 sig
When I took my concealed carry class many years ago, the boomer instructor gave a lecture at the end about the three greatest things in life according to him:
1. Jesus
2. Glocks
3. .357 SIG
One day I hope to be as passionate about anything as he was about .357 SIG.
 
I should have clarified, the witness line, and their revolvers aren't good.
oh? I've had generally alright experiences with their Witness line of pistols, which are functionally dealer-exclusive configurations of Tanfoglio pistols (mostly CZ-75 derivatives, although with many unique parts and a unique safety design, sharing mostly just pin/spring and magazine compatibility). A large frame Witness can get you a pretty competitive pistol for IPSC. that being said, EAA stopped importing them a bit ago and are just selling their own inventory they have left. IFG is the new Tanfoglio importer directly, so the Witness line is not a thing anymore.

some of the Rossi revolvers were "okay" but Rohm was trash and Weihrauch (Beeman air rifle manufacturers) need to stick to air rifles and pistols because their Windicators don't compete well against Taurus (and that's saying something!).
 
do you fellas think that with the self sufficiency board and more specific threads about guns we should have some sort of sticky about basic gun safety and handling
If your not smart enough to learn basic gun safety in any way before buying a gun then having a gun safety sticky will just make us all look even more retarded while also not providing any value to them in the first place.

Id rather see a general banner like: "You Really Think Someone Would Do That? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?" considering the shit ive seen across the site
 
Full Orca AR-15 parts timelapse. For anyone interested this design was created by Hoffman Tactical and is available on his website. Fully printed AR-15 minus BCG, FCG, buffer spring/weight, gas tube, gas block, and barrel. It's gonna be a 300 BLK because I already have an extra 300 BLK barrel someone gave me a while back.

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Didn't really want a PCC, especially in 357 sig, but for that price, I couldn't say no.
That's fucking sick, .357 sig in a longer barrel must be great.

then again a used Security Six or S&W SDVE 9mm is around that price too.
Police trade-ins are a bargain at that price point, people balk at them being .40 S&W more often than not but if you're budgeting that seriously it shouldn't matter.
 
Police trade-ins are a bargain at that price point, people balk at them being .40 S&W more often than not but if you're budgeting that seriously it shouldn't matter.
pretty much. i have a literal pile of traded in Glock 22 Gen 3 and 4 (and a couple Glock 23's) for $275 out the door. 3 OEM mags too. they are very readily available on the used market, but some people do have particulars about cartridge or action. sometimes it's what they're familiar with, or maybe they were handed a box of .38 or .357 from their old man and told to buy a revolver specifically. there's a lot less guesswork in a revolver and for some people, it has a familiar appearance and function without added controls like slide release or tilting barrels or magazines, et c. some people i know opted for .40 or .45 purely because they're limited to 10 rounds or less and figured if you can't have a lot, you may as well make them big or they have a friend that buys that caliber in bulk and they can bum a box for cheap.
 
When I took my concealed carry class many years ago, the boomer instructor gave a lecture at the end about the three greatest things in life according to him:
1. Jesus
2. Glocks
3. .357 SIG
One day I hope to be as passionate about anything as he was about .357 SIG.
To be fair. I love 357 SIG. That round has saved my life in the woods. Its just stupid expensive now for FMJ. Even reloading isn't that much of a savings, imo. Do I think its the end all, be all round though, probably not. Honestly I think that falls to 9x25 Dillon
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oh? I've had generally alright experiences with their Witness line of pistols, which are functionally dealer-exclusive configurations of Tanfoglio pistols (mostly CZ-75 derivatives, although with many unique parts and a unique safety design, sharing mostly just pin/spring and magazine compatibility). A large frame Witness can get you a pretty competitive pistol for IPSC. that being said, EAA stopped importing them a bit ago and are just selling their own inventory they have left. IFG is the new Tanfoglio importer directly, so the Witness line is not a thing anymore.
Maybe it was because they were older ones (circa like early 2010s), but I had both a witness 10mm, and a witness 38supe crack their frames on me. Hence why I do not trust that gun and would never own or recommend them.
 
The eaa windicator is exceptional for 300-400 dollars
Nah man. I haven't seen a revolver go out of time faster shooting full power loads (with the exception of an Arminius 44 mag an idiot I know has). To be fair though, I have yet to try an RIA snubby or a charter arms though.
That's fucking sick, .357 sig in a longer barrel must be great.
TBF, its only like a 7in barrel, so not much difference.
 
I just discovered that CT, IL, NY, and WA have bans on threaded barrels. What the fuck? If you're concerned about gun safety why would you want people running around with fucking smooth-bore muskets?

I confused threaded barrels with rifled barrels. They've banned suppressor attachment points.

 
I just discovered that CT, IL, NY, and WA have bans on threaded barrels. What the fuck? If you're concerned about gun safety why would you want people running around with fucking smooth-bore muskets?

Josh, barrel threads aren't rifling. Rifling is on the inside and makes bullets spin. Threads are on the outside and let you attach muzzle devices (and in some cases gas blocks but that's only with proprietary stuff)
 
if you can get a deal at or under $300, sure, the pros probably outweight the cons. then again a used Security Six or S&W SDVE 9mm is around that price too.
Any used ruger or s&w is also going to have a billion rounds through them already, yeah the windicator isnt precision machined. Its rough around the edges, needs loctite on some screws, and the sights need to be adapted to. But its comfortable to shoot, has a great grip, great weight, good action, is made in germany where they generally make good guns, and is reliable. Its a great gun to get a feel for revolvers, a great range gun, its great gun to have in the home, its not a gun I would conceal carry just due to its weight and bulk though but otherwise its a great gun.

I noticed you saying they dont compete well against taurus in another post but as long as they arn't blowing up or going off on their own they have them beat in my opinion. T*urus is a br*zillian hue monkey company who doesnt give a shit about anything which is very clear by their track record. For example if you do a search on google for "taurus gun exploding" you will pretty much find more results than all other brands combined. Taurus also has the awesome track record of purposely ignoring defects in their guns and trying to ingore lawsuits from people they got killed (they couldnt care less). This includes having so many defective dangerous guns on the market they had to deal with a class action lawsuit

Huezillian police quality testing a taurus on the home turf

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I fucking hate taurus
 

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Is there a de facto standard for brand when it comes to ear protection? I've heard there are earphones which can filter out loud noises while passing through voices and shit, but I don't know if those are memes.
They exist and they are great.
I like the Peltor Sport line, they are a noise reduction upgrade when compared to the really budget options and they are also affordable compared to the big ticket headsets that include plugs for radio communication. I have a pair of 500s and I'm able to talk with others on a busy range with no problems.

Do you need radio comms or are you good with just hearing protection?

Budget options are Walker's Razors.
 
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