Mega Rad Gun Thread

[BallsMcLongDong]

second, @Club Sandwich is a very nice and incredibly educated posted, don't listen to how humble and polite he is. He is one of 7 people who can bullet time like the matrix IRL.

If grandpa sandwich told me I would get better MOA by putting my bullets backwards in the magazine, I'd be inclined to believe him and think it's my fault when the firing pin broke.

 

[LemonParty]

If grandpa sandwich told me I would get better MOA by putting my bullets backwards in the magazine, I'd be inclined to believe him and think it's my fault when the firing pin broke.

My grandpa told me "if you can't hit what you're aiming for with iron sights then you don't deserve a scope". Till this day I still struggle with optics.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

What are the opinions of Kiwis on PDWs and which are worth your while, as expensive as they are? Are we better off getting a chassis/shoulder stock/"brace" for a pistol specifically? I'd argue AR derivatives don't count because they still need a buffer toob.

Sidenote, I'm surprised there aren't more modifications for detachable shoulder stocks on pistols.

 

[Pretend To Imagine]

What are the opinions of Kiwis on PDWs and which are worth your while, as expensive as they are? Are we better off getting a chassis/shoulder stock/"brace" for a pistol specifically? I'd argue AR derivatives don't count because they still need a buffer toob.

Sidenote, I'm surprised there aren't more modifications for detachable shoulder stocks on pistols.

It’s a niche use case. You are gonna be hauling it around in a bag, and increasing deployment speed compared to a concealed pistol. Depending on the PDW you may have very similar ballistics to a pistol, but it is easier to shoot.

 

[Rent Tin]

What are the opinions of Kiwis on PDWs and which are worth your while, as expensive as they are? Are we better off getting a chassis/shoulder stock/"brace" for a pistol specifically? I'd argue AR derivatives don't count because they still need a buffer toob.

Sidenote, I'm surprised there aren't more modifications for detachable shoulder stocks on pistols.

Pistol chassis systems fit a nice niche if you want a backpack gun that you bring to work in case something happens while you're out. Not convinced they would be necessary, but I can shoot more accurately and further with one than without.

 

[TerminalTryHard]

What are the opinions of Kiwis on PDWs and which are worth your while, as expensive as they are? Are we better off getting a chassis/shoulder stock/"brace" for a pistol specifically? I'd argue AR derivatives don't count because they still need a buffer toob.

Sidenote, I'm surprised there aren't more modifications for detachable shoulder stocks on pistols.

I guess it really depends on how you define PDW.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

The rifle doesn't interest me as much as the round; similar to something like .50 Beowulf, or maybe .450 Bushmaster?

Edit: Eh, I take it back... the rifle doesn't look that bad, considering.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

I guess it really depends on how you define PDW.

Step above a pistol with three points of contact, more compact than an SBR.
Think the differences between the M1 Carbine and both the 1911 and the Garand.

 

[LemonParty]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jYibVsp8N0UThe rifle doesn't interest me as much as the round; similar to something like .50 Beowulf, or maybe .450 Bushmaster?

Edit: Eh, I take it back... the rifle doesn't look that bad, considering.

I'd let that chick spit in my mouth...

I've brought up .50 Beowolf earlier in this thread, just to let Null know the versatility of the AR platform.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

Me likey PDWs. Probably my favorite type of gun. Well, behind revolvers. MP5, MP7, Stribog, Uzi, love em all. What do you want em for? Because that really drives the worth.
EDIT: Oh, we talking the chassis systems for pistols? I haven't used many. But I would reckon that it gets all the downsides of a pistol with minimal upsides. That being said, I could definitely see use case for the highly concealable ones. But if you're talking truck gun/bump in the night, I think I'd almost always rather a regular pistol to keep fluidity of movement or a small rifle/PCC.

 

[EggImpregnator]

Step above a pistol with three points of contact, more compact than an SBR.
Think the differences between the M1 Carbine and both the 1911 and the Garand.

The only one I like is the PS90 (with a 10.5 barrel) because of the size and capacity. It's really a niche roll. What you're really describing is a backpack gun. Im not a fan of pistol chassis because you're losing the ability of a pistol to be a pistol, but it's still not an equal to an SBR/PDW. PDW is really such a non defined idea it's difficult to say which is best. Some people consider the AKs74u a PDW, some an SBR. Would you consider the UZI a PDW or submachinegun?

Personally I think a 4 or 6 inch barreled AR9 with a 17, 19, 20, or 24 round glock mag is the perfect intermediate step in between a pistol and rifle caliber SBR.

 

[Seafarer]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jYibVsp8N0UThe rifle doesn't interest me as much as the round; similar to something like .50 Beowulf, or maybe .450 Bushmaster?

Edit: Eh, I take it back... the rifle doesn't look that bad, considering.

It’s also used in a revolver, which shows that it isn’t just America that loves their big irons:


The other gun that uses that cartridge is this sniper rifle, which despite looking like a semi-auto is actually a straight pull bolt-action (like a semi-auto that jams constantly):

 

[BikeLock]

What are the opinions of Kiwis on PDWs and which are worth your while, as expensive as they are? Are we better off getting a chassis/shoulder stock/"brace" for a pistol specifically? I'd argue AR derivatives don't count because they still need a buffer toob.

Sidenote, I'm surprised there aren't more modifications for detachable shoulder stocks on pistols.

I have an Uzi Pro with a brace. Even though its based on the most smol of all the Uzi's its still a 7lb steel brick.

I mean, its a fun steel brick, but its something that you would have to carry in a backpack, and wouldn't forget it.

Would you consider the UZI a PDW or submachinegun?

I think of my Uzi pro or an Uzi Pistol as one, as it was always meant to be an Uzi in "fun size", even though its still quite heavy despite its size. I'm pretty sure the "NATO" definition is something meant for non-combat arms personnel for defense, usually Submachineguns in intermediate rifle calibers (SBRs) so they can get through a kevlar helmet at 200 yards or whatever the requirement was that gave the world the P90 and the MP7 in the '90s.

I would consider it something more than a pistol, but certainly less than a rifle in most aspects, especially in size and weight.

 

[EggImpregnator]

I have an Uzi Pro with a brace. Even though its based on the most smol of all the Uzi's its still a 7lb steel brick.

I mean, its a fun steel brick, but its something that you would have to carry in a backpack, and wouldn't forget it.

I've always loved the micro uzi ever since I was a kid.

 

[Samhain]

As far as PDWs go, I think stuff like the Flux Raider is where it's at for regular people wanting a small, lightweight, shoulderable firearm.

You want something that can fit in a normal sized backpack. Some guys like a MK18 style AR with a LAW folder, but that's still quite long (like 22" folded). A shorty AR style firearm chambered in 9mm or .300 BLK with a 5"-7.5" barrel is more ideal for a configuration like that. This includes a lot of 9mm PCCs and options like the Sig Rattler and Q Honey Badger. Even better if you keep a QD suppressor for the weapon in the bag too, if you have time to attach it before engaging anyone.

I have a 9mm AR with a 7" barrel with a tri-lug machined into the barrel with a LAW folder. Uses Glock mags (which is nice since Glocks are my primary handguns) and feeds 124gr Gold Dots no problem. I really need to get a suppressor for it though.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

For earpro I love sordin supremes. I have like 6 pairs of them because they make it a lot easier to teach new shooters when they can hear you and they're comfortable so they're not fidgeting and readjusting them the entire time. If you're wanting to use comms then peltor comtacs would be a better choice than sordins though.

$250 or so doesn't seem so horrible now....

Please upgrade past Razors and Howards, you've got no clue what you're missing out on. You don't even need to drop a couple hundred on a communication headset. Just get one of the regular ones and you'll still be amazed.

Razor and Howard plus foam plus is great for tout hearing and you're out the door, even with gel earcups for under $100.

you want ear bud active pro, there are two I can recommend. I've used the Axil XCOR Pro for the last year and those work well. It's not quite as much ear pro as muff types but the stock on a rifle doesn't move the ear muff out of place with those. I've since gone to the Harris and Sons F12s. Those are custom made and you need to see an audiologist as part of getting them created. Fucking expensive all told but no other ear buds on the market can touch them.

Holy SHIIIIITTT

For that much they had better be fucking amazing.

Sure I’d like that. Do you guys buy guns online or in person. Are prices consistent between stores and shops or are prices going to fluctuate

Online 99% of the time. Better deals, less bullshit, most gun stores are run by some greedy/retarded SOBs

Most of my online gun purchases don't have fucking sales tax.

I then head over to my FFL and play with his dog, cats, and chickens while he runs my background check.

But I am very curious to why you didn't opt for and LPVO or MPVO with a stacked dot though

Agreed. I'm about to upgrade LPVOs and I'm so excited. Delta Stryker and then maybe an on sale Razor Gen 2e

eight manufacturers offer for sale various forms of barrels with proprietary profiles that don't but unnecessary materials forward of the gas port, they are


-Faxon
-Geissele
-Black River Tactical
-BCM
-Ballistic Advantage
-Rosco
-SOLGW
-Criterion

Hell yes. The Criterion core is, IMHO, about as smart of a general purpose AR barrel profile that's out there.

I'm going to say Geissele. Their REBCG is awesome. Both DD and G use the CRANE spec .070 gas port.

Agreed. I like the way Geisselle handguards and charging handles feel.

I personally do not like Geissele. I generally seem not to get along super well with their fanboys either. Lol.

I have a very long list of reasons for this, but none of them are because they make bad guns (usually). Mostly it has to do with their obnoxious, borderline decietful, product descriptions.

On the other hand DD makes great stuff consistently and a DD Mk18 killed Bin Laden. They make better rails and barrels anyways.

Geisselle makes Good to Very Good stuff. They charge like it's EXCELLENT. Don't buy Geisselle stuff full price if you can avoid it, wait for the 2-3x a year sales and get a complete upper as, like 99% of AR makers, their lowers aren't worth it. Some of their accessories are really nice or just plain interesting but Bendy Bill Loves hyping then up.

Bendy Bill is annoying but their QC seems to have gotten back to standard after 2022 after taking a small shit during COVID.

Daniel Defense.... I've shot them and handled them.

Great uppers, hilariously overbuilt handguards. They make essentially ALL of their parts, a few more than Geisselle although both make their own barrels.

However.... They're even more than Geisselle and I'm unfamiliar with their sales practices. Oh and, a small thing but they ONLY sell Black standalone uppers. Kinda silly IMHO.... I want that Kryptek Titan or FDE damnit but noooooo.

Also, for me, they're chubbier and their grip and stocks are.... Not.... Good.

 

[Samhain]

Bendy Bill is annoying but their QC seems to have gotten back to standard after 2022 after taking a small shit during COVID.

I impulse purchased a complete 11.5" Super Duty one night in early 2021 after dipping into leftover New Year's booze. It's a flawless build. When I later found out about the problems people were having with Geissele around then, I felt like I'd won the lottery. They definitely seem to have gotten back on track since then.

 

[Autistic Gunspergings]

Since we're sorta on the topic of PDW's, what's everyone's thoughts on the Raider 365 chassis?

I'm struggling to find a practical use case for it but ill be honest the thing looks pretty neat either way. They say you can conceal carry this but that sounds like a very claim if I've ever heard one.

 

[DocAwe]

DID SOMEONE SAY UZI!

 

[evilsponge]

Does anyone have experience with this? The leftmost screw on this optics plate is so tight I’m starting to strip it when I try to loosen it. How can I get this thing off?