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Agares said:
Do you need to register an address change if you have a suppressor and you move in a state where they're legal? Honestly the anxiety over that and the wait times for ATF approvals was the only thing stopping me from getting one for my glock.
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Running suppressors on handguns is disappointing. They make your gun twice as big.

I have two suppressors I could run on handguns, but never bother.
 
just got back from the range and while i was there i saw two guys, who looked like total douche bags btw, with brand new glocks running what looked like very expensive optics. funny enough, they sucked balls at shooting. they were shooting steel targets and took them 3 shots each at least to hit the targets. here i am with a 40 year old czech pistol with iron sights shooting circles around these two. always funny to see the guys with super expensive gear who suck at shooting, always a good laugh.

made me think of the scene from dawn of the dead:



edit: forgot to add i also found, to nobody's surprise, that wolf 5.45 ammo sucks. i got incredibly wild and inconsistent grouping out of it. it's good for being cheap and avaliable, but man i wouldnt want to use it for anything serious.
 
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Neo-Nazi Rich Evans said:
just got back from the range and while i was there i saw two guys, who looked like total douche bags btw, with brand new glocks running what looked like very expensive optics. funny enough, they sucked balls at shooting. they were shooting steel targets and took them 3 shots each at least to hit the targets. here i am with a 40 year old czech pistol with iron sights shooting circles around these two. always funny to see the guys with super expensive gear who suck at shooting, always a good laugh.

made me think of the scene from dawn of the dead:
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Many such cases. I shoot steel at 100 yards with my pistol with more consistency than most with their rifle. I shoot 400 yard steel with 5.56 and a red dot with more consistency than people with scoped bolt guns.

Public range is like the “Special Olympics” of the shooting world.
 
BohrokSwarms said:
i do not understand why anyone would want two magazines’ worth of ammo weighing down his rifle but only have half of it actually ready to fire. Surely a sixty round mag would be better?
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I agree, it throws off the natural weight of the M4. I've always felt you could tell someone who had hump a rifle around all day at one point in their lives from someone who was a mall ninja by the level of useless gizmo's they have on their service weapon. I am a redneck engineer not a real engineer but there is something about 30 rounds being the "secret sauce" to mid calibers like 5.56. You go any higher you get reliability issues. Not to mention all the 6pack carriers are made for 30's the 60's/70's/Drums are still cumbersome IMHO unless you are in some kind of over-watch position where there will never logically be a reason to fire and move, my opinion is to just keep it simple. I am firm believer in statistics/prior anecdotal incident being the best example of a realistic possible future incident. The average civilian firefight engagement is the distance of a car, under 10 rounds and under 5 seconds. Don't compromise maneuverability for excessive firepower that is simply statistically impossible.


Club Sandwich said:
not exactly. if it's temporary, there is a form for that. for example hunting with a suppressor in a different state than where it's form 1 or 4 was approved. if it's a permanent move it's a separate form (Form 5320.20: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/f...r-temporarily-export-certain-nfa-firearms-atf). you do not need to pay the tax again, however you will have to follow any laws in the new state of residence for importing and possessing the NFA item.

its very common for law enforcement in many agencies to allow officers to use their personal weapons for their duties if they meet various guidelines. the exception is usually federal or highly regimented departments (LAPD, NYPD, et c).
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I recall reading about that so very long ago. Many states and counties known for hating the US constitution told anyone who wore a badge for living they get take home what the local jurisdiction considered a felony to simply possess. Now I'm sure it's happened, somehow some way some dirtbag found out where the officer who arrested him lived and went full bore psychopath, came to their home but, I can never recall any incident of that happening.

Brailsford, the former officer who killed Daniel Shafer in the hotel in Mesa Arizona hotel, charged with 2nd degree murder? Manslaughter? something? did so with his personal rifle that was Dept approved. I would hope all depts around the country learned that having cringe shit on your firearms is also very cringe to the judge/ jury when you are charged with some kind of homicide/manslaughter charge. That was the worst shooting I've ever seen or even heard of in my life, I thought the ranking LT was just a massive fuckup with emotional/anger issues till I read more about the Mesa PD's other policies that continued post trial. Last I heard Brailsford is collecting a pension and he isn't even 40. He was with the dept cause dad was an officer so I'm sure they just streamlined the hiring process.

The infamous dust cover Brailsford personally installed on his AR then had approved by the dept "armorer" for field use representing Mesa PD.
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Pretend To Imagine said:
Running suppressors on handguns is disappointing. They make your gun twice as big.

I have two suppressors I could run on handguns, but never bother.
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Blasphemy! I personally love them, there's something about shooting a firearm and hearing this "Spuck-spuck-spuck" noise that's so satisfying, especially on steel. When ever I go to the range and a friend of a friend is there who is a bit nervous about about shooting anything for the first time like a woman who's never held a pistol, I load one round into a Ruger .22 with a can and tell them "when you pull the trigger you will get the the same feeling and sound you are using a stapler" and that will usually coax even the most nervous woman a try. I fully believe they have home defense value. Even a .22 I find deafening inside an enclosed room. Something goes "bump in the night" you want to hear what comes after the bump. Racoon? Opossum? Guy trying to break into your garage? In the dark noise might be all you have and if I indeed have to fire a shot I was to hear if there is movement or wailing of a mortally wounded animal/person. Maybe you have tougher ears than mine but you shoot 9mm in a regular old house with drywall acoustics you might not hear a critical noise, determining friend/foe. coming from behind you. Good Lord, that must look awful if the shooting comes into question in a court of law. You end up in a "Kyle Rittenhouse" situation and the prosecuting DA holds up a suppressed handgun that ended the life of a 8 time sex offender felon who broke into you're home @1am, you did the world a fucking favor and some liberal fuck District attorney holds up a suppressed handgun in front of a jury. Makes one wonder if removing said suppressor would be considered evidence tampering before calling it in.
 
Home defense is about the only scenario I would consider a suppressed pistol.

If Im shooting suppressed it’s a 9mm or .22 rifle. I have 5.56 cans but they are more of an annoyance, and I would rather just run a longer barrel.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
Home defense is about the only scenario I would consider a suppressed pistol.

If Im shooting suppressed it’s a 9mm or .22 rifle. I have 5.56 cans but they are more of an annoyance, and I would rather just run a longer barrel.
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5.56 with a suppressor or anything supersonic is pointless to me. I fully chug the .300 BLK koolaid, subsonic 220 grains, 125 grain pills hitting 2300FPS, I wouldn't want to get with either of those. They actually sell/market (or used to?) 5.56 subsonic guaranteed to cycle AR's. For the life of me I cannot recall the bullet weight but even at 69 grains under 1100 fps, whats the point?


My 3 ONLY gripes about Cans,

Legally speaking a lot of work to obtain/maintain and depending on where you are LE might jump to conclusions you haven't filled out your NFA paperwork and assume you are a "bad guy" till things are explained properly.

Cost. $200 just to buy the right to buy one or form 1. Not to mention it's about 20$ in raw materials a CNC machine took 20 mins to make, then it got another 1.50 worth of powder coating or industrial grade paint and it costs $700. After tooling and engieneers have been paid for that $900 can costed about $30 in electricity and raw materials to make. Truth be told I was also told it costs less than $100 to make a glock. So whatever.

Yes they are dirty, run quiter when dirty and that shit flys right back into your check sometimes.



VorpalAnvil- said:
Any one here have any experience with Century in house builds? Got a buddy who has a serious hard on for the PTR, and these came in at a decent price:
https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-arms-ca3-rifle
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Back in the day wasn't it a meme Century G3 engineers didn't know what "head-space" meant when applied to firearms?
 
Pfft.
I 101% of the time hit a 1½ inch diameter plate at 1000 yards with my .22 short colibri rim fire load using irons.
And that's with my legally blind left eye off hand.
WTF is wrong with everyone else?
 
EggImpregnator said:
Get a red dot on it. Preferably a holosun EPS carry.
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i've been considering either an optic or an XS big dot and i think the holosun is gonna be the one eventually. i really like the 507 on my dad's pistol. if they weren't for a leupold footprint i would check out eotech's EFLX since they seem pretty robust.
 
POWER IN MISERY said:
i shot like SHIT today and kept hitting low and left with the micro dagger. i'm frustrated confused sad and i'm still using all my brain to figure out how to hold the tiny gun right like eight hours later. i'm not normally like this, i swear...
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Do some dry fire and see how much the gun moves when you’re pulling the trigger.
 
VorpalAnvil- said:
Any one here have any experience with Century in house builds? Got a buddy who has a serious hard on for the PTR, and these came in at a decent price:
https://atlanticfirearms.com/century-arms-ca3-rifle
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they are rebadged PTR with surplus furniture and new barrel sourced by CAI. PTR handles the metal work and most of the assembly, CAI handles packaging, accessories, and bookkeeping.

Troon_Patrol said:
Back in the day wasn't it a meme Century G3 engineers didn't know what "head-space" meant when applied to firearms?
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WhoBusTank69 said:
The C93 fiasco and even CETMEs still floating around with poor headspace should be enough of a deterrent and encouragement to save up for a PTR.
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roller delay systems have no headspace gauge. bolt gap replaces headspace as the rollers must be allowed to freely roll against the trunnion recesses and locking piece to moderate BCG velocity and timing. there is no feature in a G3 (or derived) chamber that has a critical dimension that limits cartridge insertion like a shoulder or something. this is because the barrel mandrel used has a soft shoulder and ream for the flutes to provide gas blow-by, making any headspace rather pointless. notice in the cut away that it is the bolt gap that determines how "closed" the rollers are in relation to the recess in the trunnion. not the barrel, not the receiver.

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in many other locked breech firearms, headspace is gauged by the cartridge in some way (shoulder, rim, belt, mouth, et c) and a feature of the barrel itself because the bolt is locked into recesses in the barrel, and this critical dimension is required for safe locking to prevent out of battery detonation. for the example below, a Mauser action, the datum line (the center circumference of in front of the shoulder of the cartridge) combined with the leade of the bore will determine headspace. if there is too little headspace, the cartridge will not seat to the correct depth and the bolt may no fully close, which in turn can lead to a weak lock up of the action, which is a safety risk. too much headspace (erosion, bad cut, et c) and the cartridge can be too deep, which can result in ruptured cases, case head separation, light strikes from the FP, and other malfunctions.

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a couple posts back i mentioned i was thinking of removing the red dot on my p365. i did so after that post. it was one of the guns i took with me to the range and ive decided that i definitely prefer to shoot it with irons.

i also found i dont care for sellier & bellot ammo. never shot much of it before, but today i went through about 150 rounds of it. it shot roughly an inch and half low from where most other ammo shoots in my gun and it was incredibly dirty. it was literally flinging soot with each shot. my gun is more filthy from it that it has every been.
 
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