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The Dude said:
I'm having a difficult time narrowing it down to just one, so I'm going to say the FG-42 Type 2, the STG-57, the Colt Monitor/R-75/R-80, the Winchester Model 71, the Mauser C96, and the Mauser 06/08. Actually, that last one was only ever a prototype, but I would love for a production model along with the 9mm ammo designed for it.
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STG-57s can be commonly found in Switzerland and europe I think. Not so much the US :\
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
STG-57s can be commonly found in Switzerland and europe I think. Not so much the US :\
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Being a US citizen, that doesn't exactly help me. LOL

But I'd love to see any of the guns I mentioned being made brand new again, but only if they would be built to the same standard (or better) as the original models. No cost cutting bull like using MIM/investment casting for parts that were originally machined and things like that.
 
The Dude said:
Being a US citizen, that doesn't exactly help me. LOL

But I'd love to see any of the guns I mentioned being made brand new again, but only if they would be built to the same standard (or better) as the original models. No cost cutting bull like using MIM/investment casting for parts that were originally machined and things like that.
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I've seen parts kits for the 57. Good luck making a reciever. I've also seen a rebarreled 57 from parts into 7.62x51 as the SG 510-4 configuration and it shoots beautifully but not as well without GP11. There would be a pretty good market if someone could make one in 7.62x39 or 6.5 Creedmore much like DSA makes FALs.
 
The Dude said:
No cost cutting bull like using MIM/investment casting for parts that were originally machined and things like that.
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MIM, investment casting, forging (since you finish machine pretty much all the parts), and billet, are all technologies that have their place. one is not inherently better than the other - it depends on the work piece and intended function as well as execution. not understanding this often results in poor performance and unhappy customers, not to mention is somewhat stagnating for machined products. we've migrated away from body on frame vehicle designs for typical commuter passenger vehicles for a good reason.
 
Club Sandwich said:
MIM, investment casting, forging (since you finish machine pretty much all the parts), and billet, are all technologies that have their place. one is not inherently better than the other - it depends on the work piece and intended function as well as execution. not understanding this often results in poor performance and unhappy customers, not to mention is somewhat stagnating for machined products. we've migrated away from body on frame vehicle designs for typical commuter passenger vehicles for a good reason.
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I agree for the most part. My feeling is that with firearms that were designed and made in the first half of the 20th century, such as the M1918 Browning/Colt Monitor or Mauser 06/08, if you're going to make them again then they need to be authentic. A big part of the reason I have an interest in those guns is because of the genius that went into their designs. It was often one man with a workshop, some tools, some drafting paper and pencil, and his brain all trying to bring this idea he had to life. I feel like not being authentic with making a gun like that would be like taking a vintage Corvette or Shelby Mustang and then dropping a turbocharged Honda Civic engine in it. Its like sacrilegious.
 
The Dude said:
I agree for the most part. My feeling is that with firearms that were designed and made in the first half of the 20th century, such as the M1918 Browning/Colt Monitor or Mauser 06/08, if you're going to make them again then they need to be authentic. A big part of the reason I have an interest in those guns is because of the genius that went into their designs. It was often one man with a workshop, some tools, some drafting paper and pencil, and his brain all trying to bring this idea he had to life. I feel like not being authentic with making a gun like that would be like taking a vintage Corvette or Shelby Mustang and then dropping a turbocharged Honda Civic engine in it. Its like sacrilegious.
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Go the turboautist route and take a month off of work to reproduce the 06/08 yourself.
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
STG-57s can be commonly found in Switzerland and europe I think. Not so much the US :\
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Prices for a good conditioned Stgw. 57 start from 450 bucks over there. And some beaters with shot out barrels but still functioning, around 250 dollars. And this was just from one website I looked into, so maybe it's less than that. But that's a ballpark.
 
Foley said:
Prices for a good conditioned Stgw. 57 start from 450 bucks over there. And some beaters with shot out barrels but still functioning, around 250 dollars. And this was just from one website I looked into, so maybe it's less than that. But that's a ballpark.
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Over a $1000 here. Oh I'd love to import the beat to shit ones.
 
♂CANAM productions♂ said:
Oh I'd love to import the beat to shit ones.
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BATFE form 6 and work out an arrangement with an importer state-side and an exporter for the firearm. it would either have to be a parts kit, demilitarized, or rebuilt into a sporting configuration prior to import. there are also various fees associated with personal import of firearms, sometimes at a state level as well since the form 6 will not be approved if the configuration is not legal in your state of residence, regardless of where the importer is located.
 
Taser Confetti said:
If you could bring one discontinued firearm back into production what would it be? Mine would be the HK P7M13.

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MP-412 REX. I just want me a modern top break six shooter.
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Taser Confetti said:
If you could bring one discontinued firearm back into production what would it be? Mine would be the HK P7M13.

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I don't understand the appeal of that pistol. I've never owned one, only finger-fucked/fired ones owned by others (and only the M8). I'm not implying insult or anything, I simply can't wrap my mind around why a decent amount of people like that pistol.

For me, I wish CZ had continued producing and even updated the 550 line of rifles. Put Pic rail sections on the receiver instead of those stupid fucking dovetails, invest in new or updated tooling for production, use a better finish for the barrels.

Another would be the Marlin Golden 39A. I've heard they're still in production but it sure doesn't seem that way.

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Never thought I'd own a quad rail upper. The other carry handle upper I had need to be returned for RMA stuff so I took this one to replace it. I think I'll mount a flashlight on it and consider it my truck rifle for road trips.
 
Dean Pentel said:
I don't understand the appeal of that pistol. I've never owned one, only finger-fucked/fired ones owned by others (and only the M8). I'm not implying insult or anything, I simply can't wrap my mind around why a decent amount of people like that pistol.
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It's aesthetic as fuck is one of the few unique designs in the handgun world.
 
Dean Pentel said:
Anyone here ever run a full auto pistol? I've gotten a tiny bit of trigger time on submachine guns, so I better understand why some groups run those. But a full auto pistol like the Glock 18 I can't see the utility of, that's why I'm asking you all.
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Closest I have come was a tokarev running away on me. Its rather useless in my opinion though, unless you are within like 5yds.
 
Taser Confetti said:
If you could bring one discontinued firearm back into production what would it be? Mine would be the HK P7M13.

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Definitely the crossfire system. I want to see it get the semi auto treatment it deserves. The original design was supposed to be semi auto, so we should give it a second chance as a semi auto.
 

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Turns out it's a whole ordeal to get an RMR footprint onto an SP-01 Shadow slide, need an adapter plate and such.

Thinking to get the RMSc footprint done instead, is there any compatibility with the Holosun K-footprint or are they just different enough to not be compatible?
 
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Badungus Kabungus said:
Turns out it's a whole ordeal to get an RMR footprint onto an SP-01 Shadow slide, need an adapter plate and such.

Thinking to get the RMSc footprint done instead, is there any compatibility with the Holosun K-footprint or are they just different enough to not be compatible?
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I believe the Holosun k foot print doesn't have the 2 posts at the rear like the RMRcc does. If you want to put a holoson k on the rmrcc you need to file/grind off the rear two posts or get an adapter plate.
 
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I believe the Holosun k foot print doesn't have the 2 posts at the rear like the RMRcc does. If you want to put a holoson k on the rmrcc you need to file/grind off the rear two posts or get an adapter plate.
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Thanks, sounds like it may make sense to just get it milled for the K footprint and slap a Holosun 507K on it directly.

What are some other good options right now for a compact pistol optic?
 
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