.22LR is externally lubricated and always has been. however this lubrication is not needed if the powder is clean burning (which is what the "wax" is on thunderbolt and some others). it can be removed with some 70% alcohol or paint thinner and a paint brush if you don't want it, which is what i do when i want to use it in a picky gun.
See, I've never experienced lubricated 22 on the 22 I shoot. Mostly cause I use federal auto match as my default ammo. I can't remember it being on blazers either, but to be fair I haven't paid much attention to that. I just know Aguila is so heavily coated it makes even my bolt guns stick.
it's there, but typically not as thick or is a spray polymer which is very thin and doesn't gum up. a similar spray polymer is used in eastern bloc 7.62x39mm ammo pretty commonly. automatch only lubricated the lead round nose (LRN) as they used cheaper powder that was a bit dirtier than what was used in federal champion which, because of cleaner powder and using better lead alloy bullets, only needed very little external lubrication. the lubricant was to offer better extraction in revolvers, repeaters (pump, lever, et c) and bolt action rifles. automatics have a higher cadence of fire and tended to gum up with cheaper powder faster.
Hmm. I've been shooting for years and never knew this. Thanks for the info. I knew some of the eley match stuff I had when I shot competition was lubed, but I figured that was for better function in match guns. Thanks for the info on that.
the secret sauce is that lead round nose lubrication has been a thing for over a century and you'll find similar info for .38 S&W or .38 Long Colt and other olderer school revolver rounds, .45-70 moose rounds, good old mk 1 martini henry where they had both paper-patching and lubrication grooves at the same time... that's why old lead bullets had a lubrication groove - for easier cleaning and reliable extraction, and for rifles, many such grooves. black powder is very very dirty and that lubrication not only in helping seat a bullet into a case (crimped or cannelured) but when fired, helped "wipe" loose black powder and left a thing coating that made it easier to clean. really, as firing the bullet was a very high pressure situation and cast lead bullets, even hard cast lead (with antimony), would elongate a bullet a bit, distorting and smearing the lubricant in the groove (or coating the bullet itself) down the bore. this both sealed the bore better, helped protect the lead from casual weathering or moisture creeping into the powder, and during firing actively "wipe" or "squee-gee" out some unburnt powder that would result in leading or fouling too quickly with long strings of shots. air would be evacuated and drawn out following the bullet immediately after firing, taking with it loose powder and drying the lubricant for the next shot, eventually "coating" the bore very thinly with easy-to-clean lubricant.
See I knew it was a thing with black powder (and the older revolver rounds), just never seen it on 22lr. Anyways, I gotta take care of some stuff, chat later.
yeah, np; the .22LR dates back to those old black powder and bullet lube days (which are sort of still a thing in cowboy action or reloaders), so the lubrication for it is unsurprisingly still around, but few think about it. as plated .22LR become more common and clean burning smokeless powder was more affordable in bulk, it stopped being a requirement and more was just a way to keep using old dirty powder recipes.
Depends on the price.
The fucking feels man. Last time I bought 7.62x39 it was 11-12cpr shipped. Hadnt shot my basic neutered ban era WASR10 in forever so had a bit on hand but with picking up a PSA AKP + deadair wolverine man does it suck. That setup is fun to shoot.
fun fact: PVS tubes are a consumable part, depending on frequency of use with intensifiers
Velocity likely the culprit imo.
in the 90's i was part of standby forces for the situations happening in Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, and Sierra Lione to extraction of VIPs out of some dangerous goings on. some of the guys i was with were there in Mogadishu in 1993 and we were talking kit a little and i had a fairly early M4 (with 3rd burst). as per them, almost entirely Colt 723s and 727s (14.5" barrel) with a few CAR-15 Commandos (11.5" barrel) and even some XM177's (10.5 mostly with grenade ring) thrown in and that having full auto on tap was handy in urban fighting purely from volume of fire until you could get an M60 or SAW on target. regular infantry had M16A2 with a few A1E1's unless you were activated NG or armor where you had some vietnam or even korean war stuff. the short carbines were not common even among cool guys.
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It’s where the bullets go that’s the issue. Interesting that they went this way after the Sig 320 controversy.
We see it now with the Glock switches.
In the end, it's about training. In cold weather, you should use lube to an extent. When it get's cold enough, the lube is replaced with paraffin/kerosine.
That's basically what the Hi-Point carbine is
It’s one of those arguments that never dies because people love to argue about gear.
it is not orthodox, but i have always liked piston ARs, which is why ive been interested in the sr556. then again i also think 7.62x39 ARs are interesting and would consider buying one. only thing i dont like is qaud rails. always hated them. give me a good ol' A1 handgaurd. also include the carry handle. i just really love the look of those old Vietnam M-16s