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big pauper said:
22 long was the beefed up version and then 22 long rifle took the beefed up cartridge and put a heavier bullet in it.
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To get nitty gritty autistic about it, .22LR is the bullet from .22 Extra Long (extra obsolete) on the case of .22 Long. It has as good performance as .22 Long out of short barrels but far superior performance out of long barrels, which is why it eventually replaced it. You can still get .22 Long as the cartridge cases are still manufactured in mass quantity being identical to that of .22LR, for older guns that are chambered in .22 Long.
 
I did a bunch of research on .22 pistols before I got in too deep, and the Buckmark seemed like the best option for me. Basically it seems like no matter what, they're shit. The P22 is shitty metal and sucks with no optics, MK series is expensive and shitty trigger, High Standard is expensive with rare expensive nags and no parts, and so on.
I'm not even that happy with my Buckmark as it's heavy as fuck and reliability is shit, even with CCI. The issue is that it's hammer spring setup sucks at transmitting power, so the strikes are quiet light, even with a replacement spring. Hammer is also probably way too light and contributes to that. In my AR-22s I get awesome primer dents with a milspec and Rise 140 trigger, but those are more energy efficient and have hammers with 5x+ the mass.
As far as optics go with the Browning, you CAN get rails or factory options (I got a Tacsol), but it's really not ideal.
Issue with those is that they're barely held to the barrel and have a tremendous amount of flex when you tighten the rear screw. This is a serious issue as the gun will get dirty to a bad point within a few hundred rounds, especially when suppressed, so frequent disassembly is necessary. Basically you'll either have to sight in the gun every time you clean the firing pin channel, and it's very very off each time. When assembling my gun the rail bends down at least 2mm which is a SERIOUS fucking issue. I also was getting kinda shit groups, like 2 inches at 15 yards when benched or in a vise. I was originally blaming this on the chamber that's ready to settle down, but I now believe that the rail is likely to blame as it's attachment post gets slammed every shot and probably moves.
I machined a direct mount barrel clamp thing that my Vortex Crossfire that looks bubba as shit, but I'll soon find out if my barrel is truly wack or not. At least I won't have blow 2 mags of sighting in every couple hundred rounds tho. If accuracy is indeed wack, I'll probably machine myself a barrel with machined in mounts and Bentz chamber it
All that said, the trigger is one of the best out there, tied with the High Standard and Victory I tried at a couple places.

If the P17 weren't made by coke heads with ocean plastic it'd be more interesting, but accuracy is really a thing for me. A G44 or a conversion slide could be interesting, but I hear weird things about them being suppressed, and of course mechanical accuracy and triggers suck nuts.

The High Standard and Victory may be better, but they cost much more and so do the mags. Mags for the Buckmark are $33 on eBay and $25 on FDC, and can be modified to hold 13 if you cut a notch in your frame for the follower.
MK mags are a little cheaper, but the trigger was an issue for me and the Buckmark was much easier for me to get. I figured the barrel would be no better/worse as they're both really just blasting pistols.

I think I'll have to look into either getting or machining a 1911 upper where it has a split slide and I can mount a dot or prism to the barrel. I may have seen this, but it's out of my price range so I'll likely just have to make it myself if I find alright mags. These things could easily be more compact and accurate with less shitty triggers, but they aren't.
 
Shopping Cart Nationalist said:
tip: Remington manufactures and sells shit. Remington has been doing so to varying degrees for decades. If you buy a Remington, do not trust that any of it was designed, manufactured, or assembled correctly.
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I like their ammo, though now those are two separate companies, the ammo guys and the one that builds the guns. Still, again, if I saw a 7600 at a pawnshop, especially in 30-06 at $200 or less, I'd buy it for the novelty, not because it's good, but because it's interesting. Would be a fun tinker gun to work on if it had issues. And a cheap way to get a 30-06.
Romulus augustulus said:
I would not say that .32 long is ideal in a snub but .32 H&R mag or .327 fed mag are fantastic alternatives to .38spl and .357 (in a snub). also just inherently very accurate for whatever reason.
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But 38 Special is the perfect snubbie round. Has just the right amount of pen and expansion with low recoil with the right loads. The FBI load is still the benchmark. And it's common. It's THE revolver round. Cheap and easy enough to share in a SHTF scenario. Trying to find 32 H&R is expensive. Stores will probably have it in a shortage, but you'll pay up the ass.
big pauper said:
Remington golden bullet that has such a weak crimp it flat out won't work in semi autos.
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Actually bought some of those. Lol I guess. Guess I'll find out if it works if/when I get a 22lr semi auto.
AGPinochet said:
Chinese pistol drone
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Do these pistol drones actually work? I'd imagine they're inaccurate even just shooting 9mm due to being strapped to a plastic quadcopter.
S.C.U.D. said:
To get nitty gritty autistic about it, .22LR is the bullet from .22 Extra Long (extra obsolete) on the case of .22 Long. It has as good performance as .22 Long out of short barrels but far superior performance out of long barrels, which is why it eventually replaced it. You can still get .22 Long as the cartridge cases are still manufactured in mass quantity being identical to that of .22LR, for older guns that are chambered in .22 Long.
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Really good sum up tbh. 22LR's development is really cool and not talked about enough. Been thinking about it more. I kinda want one from RIA since it's so fucking cheap and I can get 25 round mags for it still
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Maybe, maybe not, might just be on my wishlist for a while. But it is cheap and basically a mini AR layout. I like that lol.
 
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DocAwe said:
I was reminded of something recently. An absurdly small folding .22 pistol with several unique characteristics
-As mentioned, absurdly small, especially in the width department, as in anorexic thin
-folded in some way
-I believed it used an unconventional magazine type, top loading with the actual bullets pointed skywards
-downward ejecting through the pistol grip
-relatively high mag capacity for the size of gun due to the unique style of magazine, I believe the capacity was 10-12 rounds and I believe the magazines were either transparent or maybe red tinted
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its the ounce oz
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it is out of stock on their website but there is a guy on 4chan that posts about his on the weapons board. its very mechanically weird, its long recoil iirc
 
WelperHelper99 said:
I mean you're right. It just looks cool. Probably trash though.
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I'm sure it is at least functional, but I don't know how reliable it would be in the long run, given the reputation of Turkish guns. It's not significantly cheaper than a 10/22 so I don't think it's worth it. Plus you get a much better platform with the 10/22, lots more parts available for it, you can build whatever you want on top of it.

For example, Woox chassis:
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Badungus Kabungus said:
I'm sure it is at least functional, but I don't know how reliable it would be in the long run, given the reputation of Turkish guns. It's not significantly cheaper than a 10/22 so I don't think it's worth it. Plus you get a much better platform with the 10/22, lots more parts available for it, you can build whatever you want on top of it.

For example, Woox chassis:
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Buy a cheap gun then keep pouring money into upgrades.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
Buy a cheap gun then keep pouring money into upgrades.
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Not the worst option for getting started with a 10/22 while on a budget, can replace parts as you go and sell off what you don't need.

My 10/22 started off as that same exact cheapo model, got it for a decent price, sold off parts I didn't need, and at the end I essentially got the receiver for free, everything else was replaced and the cost of selling the parts covered my initial expense.

Meanwhile buying a stripped receiver alone is still around $100-150 depending on the configuration.
 
Badungus Kabungus said:
Not the worst option for getting started with a 10/22 while on a budget, can replace parts as you go and sell off what you don't need.

My 10/22 started off as that same exact cheapo model, got it for a decent price, sold off parts I didn't need, and at the end I essentially got the receiver for free, everything else was replaced and the cost of selling the parts covered my initial expense.

Meanwhile buying a stripped receiver alone is still around $100-150 depending on the configuration.
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What is the advantage to a 10/22 in today’s market when the SW 15/22 exists? Seems to me like the 15/22 already comes ready to mount any accessory you could want.
 
Pretend To Imagine said:
What is the advantage to a 10/22 in today’s market when the SW 15/22 exists? Seems to me like the 15/22 already comes ready to mount any accessory you could want.
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Mine is set up for hunting, I find that a traditional-shaped stock like the Magpul Hunter X-22 makes it a lot handier and easier to maneuver in thick brush, less prone to snagging as there's no protruding pistol grip or magazine. The traditional rifle stock is also more robust, less parts to break since it has no buffer tube or a collapsing stock.

The goal for that build was to have something sleek and compact for hunting, nothing fancy. Running the Magpul X-22 stock, Kidd bolt, Ruger BX trigger, a 12.5" bull barrel, and an 1-6 LPVO.

I don't even run the 25 rounder mags for hunting, those protrude too much, while the standard 10 rounder mags can be difficult to remove. Found that coupling together two 10 round mags using a coupler from High Tower Armory makes the resulting double mag very handy to insert and remove, but without it sticking out too far and catching on everything.
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BikeLock said:
I just saw a brand new OD Green P2000 at the local gun store, and I think I may have to get it.

I mean, I already have one, but this one would match my OD Green HK45.

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Unpopular opinion but the p2000 is an obsolete and outdated gun. Looks cool but that's all it has going for it.
 
Desert tan should be dead (unless you live in like Arizona), coyote brown should also be out of the door now that Europe is becoming more of a focus for western militaries after the GWOT era. Bring in the green guns!
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I sincerely hope FDF adopts these SAKO ARs in this green colour. Sweden is going with coyote brown.
 
Foley said:
Desert tan should be dead (unless you live in like Arizona), coyote brown should also be out of the door now that Europe is becoming more of a focus for western militaries after the GWOT era. Bring in the green guns!
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I sincerely hope FDF adopts these SAKO ARs in this green colour. Sweden is going with coyote brown.
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Always preferred Ranger Green and OD. They work in a surprising amount of environments.
 
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