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Taser Confetti said:
There's literally nothing wrong with 1911's - especially if he's restricted to 10rd magazines. 230gr +P HST turns into a god damn ash tray inside a basketball American's chest cavity.

Just make sure you purchase a sufficient number of Wilson Combat magazines and toss the OEMs into a sock drawer.

Another .45 to look into within the price point is the HK45.
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I would recommend the 45C over the fullsize, as it does everything the HK45 does, but a little smaller. If you get a CT I think the barrels are even about the same length, too. Magazines are interchangeable, the only difference between the 10rnd mags for both is the baseplate, and you don't even really need the C plates to use the 10 round mags in the C, either. 45C magazines are a little bit harder to find (the 8 round carry mags) though.

I do like my HK45 of course, but I only bought it because I got a screaming deal on a factory OD one.

And try the LEM trigger, its pretty nifty.
 
BikeLock said:
I would recommend the 45C over the fullsize, as it does everything the HK45 does, but a little smaller. If you get a CT I think the barrels are even about the same length, too. Magazines are interchangeable, the only difference between the 10rnd mags for both is the baseplate, and you don't even really need the C plates to use the 10 round mags in the C, either. 45C magazines are a little bit harder to find (the 8 round carry mags) though.

I do like my HK45 of course, but I only bought it because I got a screaming deal on a factory OD one.

And try the LEM trigger, its pretty nifty.
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The LEM's okay I guess - I keep my HK45 cocked and locked since it spends 99% of it's life on a nighstand and the rest of the time in a kydex holster loaded with .450SMC for outdoors activities.
 
_squall said:
10 round maximum. No restriction against striker-fired handguns as far as I can see. Also considering a Glock 17 or a Beretta 92FS. (not striker-fired but I don't think double action would be too difficult to get used to) I just figured .45 ACP might be the move to maximize potential stopping power with the limited ammunition permitted.
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A few notes to consider if magazine capacity limits are pushing you away from double-stack 9mms. Getting accurate, quick rounds on target is the most important part of defensive handgun use. 9mm has less recoil allowing for faster follow up shots(especially in smaller cc handguns) and the ammo is less expensive so you can afford to buy more for practice. Most .45 acp 1911s will not max out the 10 round mag cap, so you're actually deciding between 7+1 or 8+1 rounds of 45 or 10+1 rounds of 9mm.

Ultimately none of this matters more than your skills and having the gun on hand when you need it(ie carrying, accessibility at home).
 
_squall said:
Also considering a Glock 17
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Glock 17, or 47 (assuming you can get Gen5), or Walther PDP. Other options for Polymer striker guns: S&W M&P 2.0, CZ P10, or Beretta APX. If carry size is an issue you can go down to a Glock 19, or its' analogue in the other brands.

As someone else suggested, see if you can find a rental range, or a gun store with a rental range. Frequently they give a discount on a gun after a rental, or give a free rental with a purchase. Keep in mind that since you are brand new, you still don't have the experience to know if a gun is comfortable long term or not so you can't make a goldilocks decision yet. You kinda have to dive in on a platform and go from there. You should be able to get along with any of the above.
_squall said:
or a Beretta 92FS. (not striker-fired but I don't think double action would be too difficult to get used to)
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You could go with a metal frame DA/SA, but it is a different class of gun which is more expensive, has less options, and more difficult to shoot well for a lot of shooters. The Beretta 92 series has had a bit or a resurgence recently due to the Langdon Tactical Models, but it all looks like gun hipster shit to me. Never been particularly impressed with the 92, and pretty sure they have issues with locking blocks breaking.
_squall said:
I just figured .45 ACP might be the move to maximize potential stopping power with the limited ammunition permitted.
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Immediately stopping, or not stopping, a person all depends on shot placement and penetration into specific parts of the anatomy. Larger diameter bullets are seldom the deciding factor in that. Many assailants stop after non-fatal, non-disabling wounds, because they realize they don't like being shot. That's as short as I can keep it without going into a long 9mm vs 45ACP spergout.

I have tried all of these (Striker, DA/SA, 1911 in 9mm, .40, and .45) over many years, and come back to the Polymer 9mm striker guns listed above. I would still do the same with a 10 round limit.
Taser Confetti said:
There's literally nothing wrong with 1911's
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The majority of manufacturers don't put in the level of quality, and detail that a 1911 deserves. Yes, the triggers are nice, and the heft contributes to an easy to shoot gun. But it is still a long, heavy, eight round gun that can be very picky about certain things. It's a level of user knowledge, and maintenance that isn't for most beginners. It's a steep learning curve on the inner workings of the gun.
 
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Rainbow Idiot said:
Smith and Wesson makes a 8 shot 357 that if I was in a restricted state would be very tempting.
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Looks pretty sweet.
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This one too
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likeacrackado said:
ammo is less expensive so you can afford to buy more for practice
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I've always felt like this was the most critical element personally.

Cost has never made me outright cancel a trip to the range, necessarily. I've been broke from time to time, but never that broke. But sometimes finances have been an occasional nagging voice in the back of my head.

It's nice to nip that problem before it even starts, and pick a common caliber to practice with and buy a shitton of it in bulk (before the next manufactured panic spikes ammo prices).

I'm sure it's far, far more valuable to be more practiced with a less effective round than to have a slightly more technically capable round and be a bumbling fuckup when shooting it.
big pauper said:
If you're in a state with a magazine capacity limit you might as well buy a revolver, 357 rules. Just ignore the fudds
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I've been wanting to buy a 357 revolver for months now. I keep going to Nation's Gun Show outside of DC, wistfully eyeing the revolvers, and going home empty handed.

I think I'm going to nut up and buy something next time.
 
Marvin said:
I've been wanting to buy a 357 revolver for months now. I keep going to Nation's Gun Show outside of DC, wistfully eyeing the revolvers, and going home empty handed.

I think I'm going to nut up and buy something next time.
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i wanted a revolver when i bought my first gun and i looked around for quite a while unable to find anything less than fuck-you collector pricing or desperate boomer scalping, but then after like a year of looking around suddenly every store was flooded with cheap tauruses and i bought a new one for like $400. dont just nut up because a good chunk of the gp100's and smiths i've seen for sale are 6/10 condition and not worth a $600 price tag let alone a $1000 price tag- but i am in the land of hillbillies

there was a thread on 4chan where some guy was complaining about the cylinder lugs on his brand new performance center s&w and a bunch of other people posted their revolvers and the smith and wesson ones were by far the worst. i think there was some kind of heinous quality drop off at smith and wesson that happened at some point and a lot of taurus hate is motivated by that or something because if anything the raging hunter series are probably the best revolvers on the market without going into meme bespoke shit
 
big pauper said:
i think there was some kind of heinous quality drop off at smith and wesson that happened at some point and a lot of taurus hate is motivated by that or something
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Taurus has put out a lot of crap, so they earned that reputation. S&W revolver quality has gone to shit as well. Some of the more minor issues that they have existed pre-Hillary hole, but they insist upon not improving anything, only slowly making everything worse, not the least of which is retaining the stupid internal lock.
 
Rainbow Idiot said:
Smith and Wesson makes a 8 shot 357 that if I was in a restricted state would be very tempting.
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Legato said:

Looks pretty sweet.
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This one too
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I will say, the retail prices on their 8 shot revolvers are nuts. Those models are on the cheaper end and are still around 1200 retail. @_squall just go with the 1911, stick a 8 or 10 round Wilson Combat mag in, call it good. RIA makes cheap but decent ones, and they have ones in the WW2 GI setup if you're into that:
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Now for a conceal carry gun, maybe consider a J frame revolver. Lightweight and foolproof, not to mention cheap on the used market. Easy to stuff in a pocket too.

Also I actually agree on the 45 ACP point. If you're stuck with 10 rounds, go big or go home. Stick in some Speer Gold Dot G2 +p hollow points, and whatever you hit is going to die.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
@_squall just go with the 1911, stick a 8 or 10 round Wilson Combat mag in, call it good. RIA makes cheap but decent ones, and they have ones in the WW2 GI setup if you're into that:
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Now for a conceal carry gun, maybe consider a J frame revolver. Lightweight and foolproof, not to mention cheap on the used market. Easy to stuff in a pocket too.

Also I actually agree on the 45 ACP point. If you're stuck with 10 rounds, go big or go home. Stick in some Speer Gold Dot G2 +p hollow points, and whatever you hit is going to die.
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You should really stop giving out gun advice.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Your shopping list is filled with bottom-of-the-barrel trash and you can't even decide on that, I don't think you should be making decisions for other people.
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I'm free to give a opinion pal. What he does with it is his choice. If he can afford that 8 shot revolver that was recommended, go for it. I gave some budget options. Mald man.
 
I thought those skiny glocs were single stack with like 10 or less rounds in the mag? Id trust my life with one of those over a 1911 or revolver any day lol.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
It's more original than just telling him to pick a Glock.
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Who said that?
WelperHelper99 said:
I'm free to give a opinion pal.
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Sure, everyone is, but not everyone's opinion should weigh the same. Now feel free to rate me autistic again (ironic IMO) for pointing out your low quality opinions.
batterybee said:
I thought those skiny glocs were single stack with like 10 or less rounds in the mag? Id trust my life with one of those over a 1911 or revolver any day lol.
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That is another good option if he wants to min-max around the the round limit and slim size for concealed carry. Walther has the F series PDP as well.
 
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