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I'll ask here since the innawoods thread is slower than molasses whats a good handgun for backpacking keep in mind I'm more concerned for 4 legged critters than 2 after doing a bit of research I'm heavily considering the Ruger SP101 for the following major reasons:
If you have a 9mm, just load hardcast rounds in it. It's certainly true that too much handgun is better than not enough, but it's also true that the handgun you already have is a far less expensive option than the handgun you don't.

Phil Shoemaker killed a Kodiak bear with 9mm hardcast rounds in a defensive gun use. I'm certain it's more than enough for a black bear, which is the sole bear in 95% of areas with bears.

Anyone who tells you that 10mm or .357 Magnum is necessary to stop a bear is a fudd. It's recognized as fuddlore and has been refuted with studies.

Weight: Ironically enough the weight is something I was originally wary of until I realized bear defense rounds for .357 kick like a mule
That makes sense if you run .357 Magnum. As I discussed earlier, it's really not necessary for stopping bears in most any case.

Robust Build: Ruger makes this particular model like a fucking tank hence the enhance weight and 5 round capacity vs the traditional 6
It doesn't matter what anyone tells you: capacity is important to some degree. There's no guarantee you're going to get an immediately incapacitating hit in that five rounds. It took Phil Shoemaker eight or nine to take that Kodiak down.

Aftermarket Support: The Sp101 was released in the 90s and has stuck around for a while so you can find aftermarket shit EVERWHERE
You know what has more aftermarket support than an SP101? A Glock or an M&P 2.0.

Concealability: I need a CCW and on backpacking trails alotta people get wigged out when you open carry (people go missing on trails/parks alot)
People can get wigged out all they want, it doesn't matter. "Oh no, a scary gun! What ever shall I do?" There's nothing they can do about it. Open carry, conceal carry, do whatever you want, but stop caring what cityslicker, nogunz faggots think.

Why a Revolver vs Semi? (Inb4 Fudd Faggot): >tfw you will never be Arthur Morgan
a few but a major reason(s) is dirt and mags, dirt is like sand for trails it gets everywhere and since 10mm is the minimum for bear defense in a semi this impacts reliability in all semis. or as scotty kilmer would put it "more moving parts more stuff can go wrong" Mags take up more space, weigh more (loaded), and usually require belt mounting (for ease of access) , vs 2 speed strips of .357.
1. As someone else said, revolvers almost always have many more parts than semi-autos.
2. As established earlier in my post, you don't need 10mm to kill a bear. They're not magically immune to 9mm, .40 S&W, .45 ACP, .357 SIG, etc.
3. You really think a speed strip is going to be better because you can throw it in your pocket, despite the fact they're less intuitive than a magazine and take longer to reload your revolver with than a speedloader? It's almost always faster to reload a semi-automatic than a revolver. I carry two spare magazines on a daily basis and they're comfortable as-is, let alone don't print.
 

#TYCED and :semperfidelis:pilled.

For real though, deagles really do have great single action triggers (and the mk19 ones have an adjustable trigger) and the action is actually very smooth, definitely in 357 or 44 (I don't own a 50AE). The only issue is that it's meant to have really tight tolerances and when things don't have the correct, tight tolerances like the newer American made ones with the cringe cerakotes, you run into real reliability issues. The OG IMI produced mk 1 (which is what this guy was using) and mk 7 have beautiful blued or parkerized finishes and no unnecessary picatinny or weaver rails to clutter up the look. Even the slightly older IWI mk19s, although they have clunky looking weaver rails, still have decent finishes and are compatible with current production parts. Forget about new ones made in the US, unless you desperately need Trump's face on the side or something. Also, whatever you do, avoid promag magazines, but hopefully I don't need to tell you that.
 
1. As someone else said, revolvers almost always have many more parts than semi-autos.
I've never understood this point. It's true, sure but a revolver's action parts are entirely sealed from the elements, while a autos (less complex, not necessarily simpler) guts hang out when it's open.

A single action revolver which many outdoorsmen still favor are actually pretty simple inside. My Ruger Blackhawk has like 12? maybe 15 parts in the action and they are completely encased in the frame.

Hardcast .45 colt +p, .44 Mag, .454 Casull, .500 linebaugh, and .480 ruger etc will all penetrate a bear from brain to ass which is what's important in a bear defense situation. IDK if i trust 9x19, the pussy level 10mm loads that are usually available at stores or .357 sig.

most auto cartridges are optimized to kill people. complete through penetration on a human chest takes what? 15 inches or something? on a charging bear to hit the vitals you'll have to penetrate the skull, brain, neck, and into the lungs and heart, hopefully breaking the spine along the way because even with a exploded heart and lungs they'll still be able to run several yards.

9x19, 10mm, .357 sig and .45 ACP will KILL a bear, .45 Colt +P. .44 MAG, .454, .500 and .480 have the ability to STOP a bear.

But of course the best defense is a rifle. a 220gr .30-06 or .300 win mag or .338 win mag or 9.3x62 or .375 H&H or pretty much any of the .45 cal or larger rifles will obliterate a bear if you get a good hit.

likely Projectile path:
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Legal question:

You live in the U.S., you come across a very rare and collectable vintage (about 50 years old) item you want to purchase currently in the possession of a questionable character. Is there a way to find out if the serial number comes back stolen before walking into an FFL and slapping down your ID on the counter, as the ATF commands it?
 
Legal question:

You live in the U.S., you come across a very rare and collectable vintage (about 50 years old) item you want to purchase currently in the possession of a questionable character. Is there a way to find out if the serial number comes back stolen before walking into an FFL and slapping down your ID on the counter, as the ATF commands it?
Some states offer serial number lookups for stolen guns. I live in Ohio and we have one through BCI, IIRC.
 
Is there a way to find out if the serial number comes back stolen
as mentioned by @Ass to Ass , some states do, but often you have to have access to the database query tool (through law enforcement) or some state DOJ have a way to send a letter to ask about a specific serial number. the federal tool is for FFLs and LEA only.
 
When a revolver goes down they tend to go hard and require a trip to the Smith/factory to get them going again.
When a pistol stops you can usually get it back up and running, ½ the Time right there on the spot.
 
When a revolver goes down they tend to go hard and require a trip to the Smith/factory to get them going again.
When a pistol stops you can usually get it back up and running, ½ the Time right there on the spot.
They both generally require trips to the gunsmith or factory for warranty work when that happens because what you're referring to in a revolver is parts breakage which will kill a auto just the same. for the most part what will break first on either are the springs which can just be replaced by the user.

now, you can un-jam a auto right at the range easily like you said. you can't do that to a revolver because a revolver is immune to that failure state.

the only time a revolver has jammed on me was with my GP-100 when i shot about 2,000 rounds of dirty, cheap .38 special in about two weeks. the stainless cylinder was fully black with soot and it had accumulated enough under the extractor star that the cylinder would not rotate. was back running after a quick spray of cleaner and a brush.
 
They both generally require trips to the gunsmith or factory for warranty work when that happens because what you're referring to in a revolver is parts breakage which will kill a auto just the same. for the most part what will break first on either are the springs which can just be replaced by the user.

now, you can un-jam a auto right at the range easily like you said. you can't do that to a revolver because a revolver is immune to that failure state.

the only time a revolver has jammed on me was with my GP-100 when i shot about 2,000 rounds of dirty, cheap .38 special in about two weeks. the stainless cylinder was fully black with soot and it had accumulated enough under the extractor star that the cylinder would not rotate. was back running after a quick spray of cleaner and a brush.
Keep telling yourself that.
Wait till you have a primer pop and wedge itself in-between the frame and cylinder or hammer.
So much fuddlore about the invincible revolver is mind numbing.
 
Keep telling yourself that.
Wait till you have a primer pop and wedge itself in-between the frame and cylinder or hammer.
So much fuddlore about the invincible revolver is mind numbing.
I've shot many thousands of rounds through each of my revolvers and have never once had that happen. outside of bubba's pissin hot hand loads I've never seen a problem with primers at all in any cartridge.
 
It's nuts that Springfield armory ships their 1911s in a flimsy cardboard box with a little carry bag like they do Their cheaper handguns. Tisas ships them in a hard case with hard foam and cleaning tools and a wrench. Out done by the Turks
 
It's nuts that Springfield armory ships their 1911s in a flimsy cardboard box with a little carry bag like they do Their cheaper handguns. Tisas ships them in a hard case with hard foam and cleaning tools and a wrench. Out done by the Turks
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This Tisas™/Canik™ gun comes in its own branded hard case?
And with its own holster??
AND WITH ITS OWN HECKING CUTE LITTLE GUN SHAPED MULTI TOOL???????
WAAAOOW!!!!!
This is just like the toys in my breakfast cereal boxes that I had as a kid but for an ADULT thing!
I didn't even have to get another manly monthly mystery box™ subscription for it!
 
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This Tisas™/Canik™ gun comes in its own branded hard case?
And with its own holster??
AND WITH ITS OWN HECKING CUTE LITTLE GUN SHAPED MULTI TOOL???????
WAAAOOW!!!!!
This is just like the toys in my breakfast cereal boxes that I had as a kid but for an ADULT thing!
I didn't even have to get another manly monthly mystery box™ subscription for it!
I'm afraid they don't include any stickers, so they're going straight to hell. Or as those in the know like to call them Slaps
 
it's not some bespoke 1911, who cares? ruger's come in hard cases and its a pain in the ass.
It's funny to me they ship their over $1000 guns the same as their budget ones, no extra frills. I didn't expect it when I saw it. What is extra is that in some YouTube videos for said $1k+ guns they send the reviewer a different nicer hard case to show on camera instead of the flimsy cardboard box.
 
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Not pictured: the 1 foot thick brick wall that was penetrated by the 45 ACP after exiting the bears ass.
Despite both test guns being fired by a professional ATF agent, the 9mm failed to kill anything, it even failed to kill a drug sniffing terrier which the ATF agent zeroed in when his instinctive training kicked in.
 
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Not pictured: the 1 foot thick brick wall that was penetrated by the 45 ACP after exiting the bears ass.
Despite both test guns being fired by a professional ATF agent, the 9mm failed to kill anything, it even failed to kill a drug sniffing terrier which the ATF agent zeroed in when his instinctive training kicked in.
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To prevent against overpenetration, use .22lr. It has no muzzle energy (0.08ft-lbs) and is extremely weak, yet bounces around in the skull of a target for 4-6 weeks after impact.
 
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To prevent against overpenetration, use .22lr. It has no muzzle energy (0.08ft-lbs) and is extremely weak, yet bounces around in the skull of a target for 4-6 weeks after impact.
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The National Guard has been called in to take care of the ancient bear menace. Unfortunately the 5.56, being made expressly to wound Vietnamese soldiers, has sidestepped the bear completely, out of disinterest.
 
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The Russians took care of it.
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Pictured: all that remained of the bear after a single round of 32 ACP. The few eyewitnesses remaining recount a hooded man drawing a Colt Model 1903 pocket hammerless and firing. Along with the smoke and bullet, a heavenly spectre in the shape of John Moses Browning emerged from the barrel and engulfed everything in its path in a blinding divine light. The hooded man was never identified, but one eyewitness who hadn't gone completely mad said the hooded man had long flowing locks and odd facial hair. He recalled hearing as the man squeezed the trigger "hey guys, thanks for tuning in to....."
 
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