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So the area of the country I live in has to the best of my knowledge no blm land. What we have is core of engineers controlled land which I and most people in the area hate with the fire of a thousand suns. So when I hear that the feds are selling land to me that sounds like a good thing. However people who's takes I usually agree with seem horrified about it and as such I appear to be missing something. Why isn't this not only a fair trade for gun rights but a unambiguous good thing?
 
Rainbow Idiot said:
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That's not the case. The land will become eligible to be processed for sale, as decided by the state. So not only does the land get closed off to honest people and irreversibly shit up by trespassers in the mean time, it will probably be sold at a hefty discount to Chinese investors who then break their promise and squat on the now valuable real estate. As they do everywhere else.
This isn't about housing. We've got housing and bare plots in the inner cities with the caveat that the current inhabitants will kill you and nobody will do anything about it.

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Fuck you.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
That's not the case. The land will become eligible to be processed for sale, as decided by the state. So not only does the land get closed off to honest people and irreversibly shit up by trespassers in the mean time, it will probably be sold at a hefty discount to Chinese investors who then break their promise and squat on the now valuable real estate. As they do everywhere else.
This isn't about housing. We've got housing and bare plots in the inner cities with the caveat that the current inhabitants will kill you and nobody will do anything about it.
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Okay Chinese investors is a problem. Housing isn't what I'm talking about. Politicians have run on getting rid of all federal land other than military bases and been cheered locally for as long as I can recall. I genuinely don't understand why you want federal control of land other than bases and national parks. That's what I'm asking about. Why is federal land ever a good thing.
 
Rainbow Idiot said:
Politicians have run on getting rid of all federal land other than military bases and been cheered locally for as long as I can recall. I genuinely don't understand why you want federal control of land other than bases and national parks. That's what I'm asking about. Why is federal land ever a good thing.
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The everyman will cheer for tearing down forests because they don't care about it. I have no love for the government but they're the only ones keeping the Grand Canyon from being filled in to make a parking lot.
 
Bassomatic said:
Why the fuck are we having to TRADE for our Rights?
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Because Trump literally campaigned on doing this, and it was so popular, Kamala copied it for her campaign platform, so Congress is now implementing that.


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Apparently the Bizon clones are for sale already.
 
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Does anyone here have an excel sheet or something to find what parts are compatible between the turn of the century top break 32S&W and 38S&W smiths, Ivers, H&Rs, Hopkins&Allen, etc? I know a lot of those parts are the same or almost identical and a lot came from the same factories. I’ve got a pile I need to assemble into a few functional examples.
 
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This was posted on X, and I found some of the choices here to be strange? Tennessee and Florida being friendly than Georgia seems odd. Tennessee doesn't allow the open carry of long guns, and Florida has gun laws similar to blue states with red flag and no open carry. There's probably some other issues with their criteria, but I can't think of any else at the moment.
 
NeonFlux said:
When the SHORT act of the BBB passes, I'm going to buy a cheap double barrel 12 gauge off gunbrokers at some point, cut the stock and barrel down so I can roleplay as a cowboy or Mad Max. I just need to not break my wrists.
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Short barrel shotguns do sound fun, ngl.
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"Ryno" Printed .22 revolver seized in Boston
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Why would you print a 22 revolver, especially one that hideous? They sell Heritage Arms 22 revolvers for just over 100. Fuck you can find HI-point 9mm for ~100 a lot of times. I get its boston, but fucking damn people, there are options.
 
Shark Genocide Advocate said:
Does anyone here have an excel sheet or something to find what parts are compatible between the turn of the century top break 32S&W and 38S&W smiths, Ivers, H&Rs, Hopkins&Allen, etc? I know a lot of those parts are the same or almost identical and a lot came from the same factories. I’ve got a pile I need to assemble into a few functional examples.
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They've got differences, Numrich(gunpartscorp) has diagrams of each. Similar, but different.
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Iver Johnson - note that there are parts from different models, there were three in total.

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H&R

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Hopkins & Allen

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Smith & Wesson

Even if you get a part for the specific gun you're going to be handfitting, I wouldn't be surprised if you could do some cross-branding at that point but the Smith & Wesson is quite a bit different from the rest.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
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This was posted on X, and I found some of the choices here to be strange? Tennessee and Florida being friendly than Georgia seems odd. Tennessee doesn't allow the open carry of long guns, and Florida has gun laws similar to blue states with red flag and no open carry. There's probably some other issues with their criteria, but I can't think of any else at the moment.
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Kentucky is orange on the map but this state does not have any gun restrictions at all.
 

Rainbow Idiot said:
feds are selling land to me that sounds like a good thing.
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Public land is a rare commodity in a lot of places, especially in the US with no right to wander. Imagine if instead of being able to hike the Appalachian trail you had to ask permission from the Chinese that own all the land (before they clear cut it and detonated parts of the mountain range to put in housing and a Walmart). BLM/state land quite literally exists to protect the land, one of the few times it's actually a good thing they own something. Instead, because land is so much more valuable now than it was in the past, it's much more common to see state plots go up for auction. Go figure.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
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This was posted on X, and I found some of the choices here to be strange? Tennessee and Florida being friendly than Georgia seems odd. Tennessee doesn't allow the open carry of long guns, and Florida has gun laws similar to blue states with red flag and no open carry. There's probably some other issues with their criteria, but I can't think of any else at the moment.
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Yeah, that shit's all retarded and totally fucked. Utah only being 25 is wrong on so many levels. Utah has no firearms restrictions. We're arguably more pro-2A than fucking Texas. We have Constitutional carry, you can carry in public schools if you have a CFL, you can carry in bars and clubs (you can't in Texas), and we allow every kind of firearm to be owned, including full-auto and destructive devices. You can open carry anything you want, including rifles. Without knowing what criteria they used to make up this map, it's just meaningless gobbledeygook.
 
Rainbow Idiot said:
So the area of the country I live in has to the best of my knowledge no blm land. What we have is core of engineers controlled land which I and most people in the area hate with the fire of a thousand suns. So when I hear that the feds are selling land to me that sounds like a good thing. However people who's takes I usually agree with seem horrified about it and as such I appear to be missing something. Why isn't this not only a fair trade for gun rights but a unambiguous good thing?
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First, I take exception to this trade talk. We don't need to trade something for rights enshrined to us, any trade is bad because we shouldn't have to give something up for it especially something else we have a right to use. You're forgetting that that's the crux of what the BLM land is, it's public use, we have the right to use it and we're already taxed for the maintenance of what is maintained. We also won't see a red dime when they sell it or even a tax break. I've used BLM land for many things. Shooting, hiking, dirt biking, bush flying. Corps of engineers land I dunno. in my experience that's infrastructure stuff. BLM land is stuff that belongs to all of us and because the dregs of the society don't do outdoors stuff there hasn't been that much "tragedy of the commons" destruction and abuse of it.

Perhaps a lot of people don't get it because they're not outdoors types, or just young, I can't hold blame there. But do you really think they're just going to sell off remote borderline unreachable land that nobody uses or cares about? This is an idea that lobbyists have been chipping away at for a long time, they want the good stuff because they can control it and make money off of it. The government selling our land is the government cucking us for investors and other moneyed interests, not just selling off assets none of us use. Have you seen what happened with the ski slopes over the last few decades? With Vail resorts? Look into it. All over the place, stuff that used to be used by regular people, locals, etc. It's now corporate owned, expensive and crowded. Ruined by scummy big business.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
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This was posted on X, and I found some of the choices here to be strange? Tennessee and Florida being friendly than Georgia seems odd. Tennessee doesn't allow the open carry of long guns, and Florida has gun laws similar to blue states with red flag and no open carry. There's probably some other issues with their criteria, but I can't think of any else at the moment.
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Based on the entire Midwest this map doesn't seem to have a clear criteria. For example Indiana is friendlier despite being unable to open carry. Ohio allows open carry. Both states have permits for concealed carry and recognize each other's permits. Far as I can tell there's no real differences between them. Both Ohio and Indiana have been moving towards being more gun friendly as well with their legislature. Meanwhile Minnesota tried to ban 18-20 years olds from being able to get their shall issue permits and the SCOTUS had to shut that shit down. Wisconsin is similar to the rest as well as Michigan: Shall issue states in regards to concealed carry. Michigan has a registry for pistols however and is trying to ban "ghost guns". Wisconsin has something similar to a registry and you pay $13 for it LOL.
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Without knowing what criteria they used to make up this map, it's just meaningless gobbledeygook.
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Essentially this. If they compared and contrasted all the states based on gun laws they should have had a little legend for their formula or whatever. It just seem arbitrary. Everyone knows California sucks for gun laws but Oregon and Washington are as bad as some of the states in the Midwest? None of the states above have magazine capacity bans. Meanwhile Oregon and Washington both were fighting hard over those 10 round magazines they wanted to implement. Florida has a ban for people under 21 from purchasing anything, correct me if I'm wrong, after Nicholas Cruz's shooting down there. Yet it's yellow, I suppose it's because otherwise the state seems to be pretty pro gun? No duty to retreat etc.
 
God's drunkest driver said:
Corps of engineers land I dunno. in my experience that's infrastructure stuff.
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The infuriating stuff is the "flood plain" areas that they sized before I was born next to creeks and small rivers that they make up rules about hunting and fishing on core land that they change at random. Had a 100 year flood and it didn't flood half the so called flood plain. Also they don't allow recreational vehicles or high powered rifles on core land. Now if they let you dirt bike and shoot on blm land that makes more sense why people would be upset.
 
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