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Merry said:
Can an armyfag explain to me why the US Military doesn't just go full Glock for standard issue sidearms? Seems like it'd be the cheapest and most logistically sensible option relative to performance
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The Coast Guard actually declined the M17/M18 in favor of Glocks. They're the only branch that didn't adopt it. They look like geniuses now.
 
Sooty Soot said:
My grandpa had this old ass rifle when I was a kid, It was ancient, probably older than him judging by the design since the way it was loaded (I think at least, I'm not too sure) was that you would open the barrel like a double barrel shotgun and load in one round at a time, maybe a 1900's Mauser?
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Needs more context since you don't have any concrete info, like the year you saw it.
When you mention loading it like a double barrel, do you mean opening it so the barrel hangs?
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Because a Mauser rifle just requires pulling the bolt back to load.
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Any of you guys have a Stealth Arms Platypus? I heard about them on a podcast. I've been looking into double stack 1911s for a while, but I hate how 2011s and their modern features in general look. Need to get my hands on something from Stealth but they're rare, I don't even know anyone who had heard of them. I saw a Vulcan "3L3V3N" and it looked like it was designed by an adolescent whose only exposure to guns was video games and edgy gun movies.

The Dude said:
That's being a bit disingenuous. There are plenty of lower priced 1911s than run just as reliably as a GLOCK. The US military issued them for nearly 80 years because they worked, and worked well. Typically when you're paying a higher price for a 1911 it's for higher grade features, like better sights, better build quality/tighter tolerances, better quality parts, etc. But any military style 1911 from a reputable manufacturer should run just fine, you're just not going to get the fancy stuff like more modern sights, extended safety, mag well funnel, etc.
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Even a well tuned and built 1911 is not going to reach Glock levels of reliability because of the latter's tolerance to abuse or neglect and parts longevity. I love my Colt, AF, Dan Wesson, but they're probably going to get left hidden in a cache as excess weight if SHTF.
 
Sooty Soot said:
My grandpa had this old ass rifle when I was a kid, It was ancient, probably older than him judging by the design since the way it was loaded (I think at least, I'm not too sure) was that you would open the barrel like a double barrel shotgun and load in one round at a time, maybe a 1900's Mauser?
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A lot of big game rifles have actions like that. They're also available in smaller calibers like 30-30, 30-06, 45-70, and plenty of others. They're fairly common and still in production, they were one of the the options you could use for primitive hunting season here for a long time, you had to use a bow, muzzle loader, lever action or single shot straight wall, or if you wanted to use bottleneck cartridges break actions in any caliber were allowed
 
Sooty Soot said:
My grandpa had this old ass rifle when I was a kid, It was ancient, probably older than him judging by the design since the way it was loaded (I think at least, I'm not too sure) was that you would open the barrel like a double barrel shotgun and load in one round at a time, maybe a 1900's Mauser?
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Is this a single shot break open rifle or an actual double barreled break open rifle? Mauser didn't make any rifles like that, that I'm aware of. Some gunsmith could have made their own gun with Mauser parts though.

Break open actions are still around since they're so simple, but they're relatively niche since they're not as convenient as even a bolt action much less a semi-auto.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Needs more context since you don't have any concrete info, like the year you saw it.
When you mention loading it like a double barrel, do you mean opening it so the barrel hangs?
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Because a Mauser rifle just requires pulling the bolt back to load.
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Polock said:
Is this a single shot break open rifle or an actual double barreled break open rifle? Mauser didn't make any rifles like that, that I'm aware of. Some gunsmith could have made their own gun with Mauser parts though.

Break open actions are still around since they're so simple, but they're relatively niche since they're not as convenient as even a bolt action much less a semi-auto.
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TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
A lot of big game rifles have actions like that. They're also available in smaller calibers like 30-30, 30-06, 45-70, and plenty of others. They're fairly common and still in production, they were one of the the options you could use for primitive hunting season here for a long time, you had to use a bow, muzzle loader, lever action or single shot straight wall, or if you wanted to use bottleneck cartridges break actions in any caliber were allowed
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It was a break open action, now that it's been mentioned it might've been a more modern hunting rifle since I just associated break-action rifle with being old. As for the caliber, I never saw it get loaded but the barrel couldn't have been that big, no bigger (maybe even smaller) than the barrels of those Remington hunting rifles and I never knew my grandpa to be the hunting type. At this point, I would assume it might've been a locally manufactured model without any branding, if any gunautists in the thread wanna have a gander at trying to find the model I'd start with English companies like Enfield.
 
Ravier Xavenblood said:
Do you think they’ll surplus the P320s or are they getting the steam roller treatment?
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I think at worst they'll issue a revised part or set of parts and the military will put them back in service. They might not last as long in service as the Berettas but they aren't going to get booted so soon. The military is good for some sunk cost reasoning.
 
Sooty Soot said:
It was a break open action, now that it's been mentioned it might've been a more modern hunting rifle since I just associated break-action rifle with being old. As for the caliber, I never saw it get loaded but the barrel couldn't have been that big, no bigger (maybe even smaller) than the barrels of those Remington hunting rifles and I never knew my grandpa to be the hunting type. At this point, I would assume it might've been a locally manufactured model without any branding, if any gunautists in the thread wanna have a gander at trying to find the model I'd start with English companies like Enfield.
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It might be something new. There are a few states that classify single shot rifles as primitive weapons so you can use them during black powder season. If it doesn’t have any markings it’s likely not a new US build.
 
The M4 VS M7 debate is pointless anyways because nobody is going to shoot each other in the next war. We're just going to be blowing each other up with drones.
 
Historical Strelkov said:
Don't you dare compare HS Produkt to some random out of spec shit Indian/Chinese shit.
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Say that again to my face, I dare you.
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They make a fine pistol for killing dissidents at contact distance, but outside of that, pure eurotrash. The M1A is garbage.

I prefer my eurotrash handguns to be stamped with their actual manufacturing company.
 
BikeLock said:
They make a fine pistol for killing dissidents at contact distance, but outside of that, pure eurotrash. The M1A is garbage.

I prefer my eurotrash handguns to be stamped with their actual manufacturing company.
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The M1A is not made by HS Produkt.
The XD, Echelon, Hellcat, VHS, and Kuna are.
You're complaining about the US factory in Illinois if you think the m1a rifles suck.
HS doesn't outsource their parts like SIG does.
 
If I were ever to buy another Springfield Armory product it would only be their HS Produkt imports, like a Hellion or Kuna. HS makes high quality weapons. Its SA's other product lines that I'd personally avoid, especially after the horrible experience I had owning an M1A Loaded with stainless barrel. Went back to SA three times, each time they said "It runs fine.', and when I'd get it back I couldn't get through even a single magazine with out some kind of FTF or FTE.
 
Pizdec said:
You’re kidding. That’s lazy even for the fucking army. I can’t wait until that comes back to bite them in the ass when we end up with more dead men who couldn’t aim for shit versus Muhammad with a rusted out AKM and iron sights.
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>take joe from the infantry
>slap an abrams FCS onto his rifle
>you now have to teach him how to use it and the proper protocols for when all the cool tech inside inevitably fucks up and stops working for x reason
>for EVERY SINGLE INFANTRYMAN
genuinely who thought this was a good idea?
 
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