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How do you guys feel about the new S&W Shield X? Worth the premium over the Shield Plus?

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How do you guys feel about the new S&W Shield X? Worth the premium over the Shield Plus?

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I don't know, I'd have to handle them. When I had a Shield(first version single-stack in 9x19) I was plenty accurate with it and the recoil was much better than any other subcompact at the time. The grip being thinner front to back makes me imagine it would give me hand cramps.
 
I think I have tinnitus now because of some faggot at the indoor range magdumping his muzzle braked AR in the lane next to mine. The eeeeeeeeeeee won't stop.
 
I think I have tinnitus now because of some faggot at the indoor range magdumping his muzzle braked AR in the lane next to mine. The eeeeeeeeeeee won't stop.
Maybe don't use an indoor range if you don't want me shooting my Oberz 4 feet away from you.

JK, that sucks man did you double up on ear pro?
 
I think I have tinnitus now because of some faggot at the indoor range magdumping his muzzle braked AR in the lane next to mine. The eeeeeeeeeeee won't stop.
What kind of ear pro? I hate earmuff style and swear by the foam insert in your ear kind. Gotta seal up that ear canal. Of course with some guns concussion can be a problem.
 
Maybe don't use an indoor range if you don't want me shooting my Oberz 4 feet away from you.

JK, that sucks man did you double up on ear pro?
What kind of ear pro? I hate earmuff style and swear by the foam insert in your ear kind. Gotta seal up that ear canal. Of course with some guns concussion can be a problem.
Nah I fucked up and didn't double up, but I think the seal on my muffs was good. It might have just been the damn concussive force cause whenever this guy fired I could feel it in my teeth.
 
Brakes do move a lot of air and create a concussion. When you have a shorter barrel it gets loud and you can literally feel it.

I hope you're okay though. I shoot supressed a lot now despite my hearing being mostly gone on one side anyway.
Yeah I mean my actual hearing seems to be normal so far, so I'm hoping it may have just been temporary ear damage. The eeeee has gone down a bit since yesterday so maybe. Would just be fucking pissed if I damaged my hearing because of someone else entirely.
 
I often wonder if a modern SAW or GMPG could be designed with a forced air cooling system, much like the Lewis Gun or PKP Pecheneg, and if it would be worth it for a sustained fire platform. I'm sure one could be designed to also have the barrel able to be quickly swapped if enough time were put into it. Would it even be worth doing?
 
wonder if a modern SAW or GMPG could be designed with a forced air cooling system
designed for it? yes. worth it the weight and added complexity to a quick change barrel? no. it's even dubious for fixed barrel GPMGs with modern barrel linings. this has been asked in this thread already iirc.

the biggest improvement to small arms that should be reached for currently is programmable, miniaturized munitions for fixed guns. we have that for grenades and we have it for artillery, why not 25mm, 20mm, or .50 BMG? there is a certain point where the delivery vehicle is too small for it to be a difference, but there has to be something better than the FRAG-12 or Mk 211 that will work for area targets in a meaningful capacity that isn't obscenely expensive or require an obtuse logistics chain. currently we have to lug a Mk 19 for that capacity or just chew up barriers with a mounted M2 rather than just load a 50 round belt of something nice to end a fight sooner rather than later.

also why aren't spotting rounds a thing for small arms? have an electronic sight track and ID a tracer of a known color down range, watch the impact, then use that to guide further crosshairs onto that target. human in control and you can just ignore the marker, but it'd sure help in some cases. heck feed that distance to an electronically fused grenade launcher or something.
 
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designed for it? yes. worth it the weight and added complexity to a quick change barrel? no. it's even dubious for fixed barrel GPMGs with modern barrel linings. this has been asked in this thread already iirc.

the biggest improvement to small arms that should be reached for currently is programmable, miniaturized munitions for fixed guns. we have that for grenades and we have it for artillery, why not 25mm, 20mm, or .50 BMG? there is a certain point where the delivery vehicle is too small for it to be a difference, but there has to be something better than the FRAG-12 or Mk 211 that will work for area targets in a meaningful capacity that isn't obscenely expensive or require an obtuse logistics chain. currently we have to lug a Mk 19 for that capacity or just chew up barriers with a mounted M2 rather than just load a 50 round belt of something nice to end a fight sooner rather than later.

also why aren't spotting rounds a thing for small arms? have an electronic sight track and ID a tracer of a known color down range, watch the impact, then use that to guide further crosshairs onto that target. human in control and you can just ignore the marker, but it'd sure help in some cases. heck feed that distance to an electronically fused grenade launcher or something.

Or smart tracking ammunition that can change course mid-flight. The technology has been developed by DARPA for .50 BMG if I recall correctly, about 15 years ago or so. If they continued to develop it, continued to make the components smaller, more rugged, more reliable, improve its maneuverability, it could greatly improve first round hit probability and make it available in cartridges small enough to be used in individual infantry rifles instead of anti-materiel and heavy sniper rifles.
 
I bought a PX4 Storm from buds that was listed as a D-Type but turned out to be a C-Type.
They look the same from the outside but the "D" is DAO and the "C" is some weird in-between half cock & SAO.
That's one of those things you have to watch out for at any regular gun store large and small when you buy sight unseen. Minor difference are easily missed especially if there is nothing visual. at the end of the day, the guy doing your paper work isn't going to know.

its why its good to buy from a store that has good customer service.
 
Yeah I mean my actual hearing seems to be normal so far, so I'm hoping it may have just been temporary ear damage. The eeeee has gone down a bit since yesterday so maybe. Would just be fucking pissed if I damaged my hearing because of someone else entirely.
From my own personal hearing loss etc. Yeah if it comes back/hasn't gone away. the EEEE is temp and you'll be okay. Don't do that tho.

I lost almost my hearing in my left ear because I like Scuba diving and was poor, I blame Delta lol.

Or smart tracking ammunition that can change course mid-flight. The technology has been developed by DARPA for .50 BMG if I recall correctly, about 15 years ago or so. If they continued to develop it, continued to make the components smaller, more rugged, more reliable, improve its maneuverability, it could greatly improve first round hit probability and make it available in cartridges small enough to be used in individual infantry rifles instead of anti-materiel and heavy sniper rifles.
I am far from an electronics wiz, but I think we'll have "Aliens" smart guns before we have "personal" smart ammo. I've seen some of the amazing stuff we can do to adjust even 155 shells and smaller like the ODO76mm DP guns on ships. But I think something the size and weight of a Maxim that has some crazy thermal lock on firing normal ball ammo seems closer than a 50 BMG with fins that pop up to move around.

Just my 02.

Also I was today years old when I learned 429 Deagle branded Deagle bullets are a thing, and it's pretty dope despite not really my thing.
 
I feel as if that attitude about manual safeties (I'm assuming thumb safeties) stems from imaginations of guys who either don't train or train very little. Anyone that's ever seen high level competitors run pistols with safeties knows that one can get to a point where deactivating them as part of the draw movement doesn't even require clear conscious thought. Heck, now a lot of those guys are doing that from AIWB rigs in competitions now.
Have you seen what the safety looks like on a 2011? It's a giant shelf that your thumb naturally falls on as you form your grip.
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(The extra bit of metal along the slide allows you to rest your thumb against the slide without slowing it down)

They're not tiny narrow levers in an awkward spot like what most "carry" guns have (because you can't have a giant piece sticking out the side on a gun meant to be concealed):
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A manual safety on a striker-fired polymer carry gun is unnecessary.
 
Have you seen what the safety looks like on a 2011? It's a giant shelf that your thumb naturally falls on as you form your grip.
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(The extra bit of metal along the slide allows you to rest your thumb against the slide without slowing it down)

They're not tiny narrow levers in an awkward spot like what most "carry" guns have (because you can't have a giant piece sticking out the side on a gun meant to be concealed):
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A manual safety on a striker-fired polymer carry gun is unnecessary.

Here are the ambi-safeties on my Staccato P and Dan Wesson Specialist. The levers are wide enough to provide a secure platform for your thumb, but are slim enough that they don't dig into your side while holstered and don't print noticeably.

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if you have to have a safety on a carry piece, embrace the low profile safety that works positively and consciously. you must be aware of the status of your carry and it's readiness to perform when carrying. there are many designs and some work better than others for specific habits and anatomy of people. personally i do not use external safeties on carry pieces, but do insist on internal safeties of some kind (FP block and one other thing, minimum).
 

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All about the Stoner 63 and it's predecessors
Sources are two well researched if poorly machine translated articles by Russian outfit Topwar and one or two other sources

The Great Grandfather of the Stoner 63, The M69W (Stoner thought it was funny that if you flip the name around it says the same thing,), was modular but as far as I can tell no photos of the rifle configurations exist). 7.62x51 chambering
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Next Came the Stoner 62, also a 7.62 chambering.
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Prototype Stoner 63 with wooden furniture
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Carbine with folding stock
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Automatic rifle configuration prototype
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LMG (Perhaps the biggest flaw ergonomically speaking with the Stoner series and specifically the Belt fed configurations, was the left hand eject necessitated by the design of the receiver. It required a cluttered ejection space on the left hand feeding models that could lead to serious "spinback" malfunctions. With the later right hand feed model you solved that problem but you would get peppered with hot brass if you didn't wear full a full sleeve, not the end of the world but still)
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Air Force Survival carbine
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British Bullpup modification
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The Stoner 63 of mystery (authors don't have and idea what it could be, best guess they have is some kind of ergonomics test bed of some variety)
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Apparently some years ago a guy on arfcom a guy was able to acquire a Cadillac Gage receiver blank and made his own Stoner 66 (A designation given to rifles made as part of a failed civilian market sales plan)
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Dutch modified stoners
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Stoner 63A1 modified with unique folding stock for Dutch military trials
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