Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Bassomatic]

Taurus Judge AR.

God weeps at these words.

 

[Dean Pentel]

a 300blk running subs sound much better to keep for my bump in the night gun

It'll be a niche rifle but if you're okay with that I highly recommend it. If you're primarily running subs I suggest you zero it for 50 yards. I'm a big fan of the PWS Mk 109 upper for 300 BLK. I run the PWS BDE762 with a SilencerCo ASR mount. The whole system is solid but it's expensive and while I dryfire practice and practice clearing my house with it regularly, it gets fired rarely. I made peace with it because I much prefer this for home defense over a pistol, a shotgun, or a regular 5.56 carbine for shooting people in buildings.

 

[Forester Moth]

Had a dream last night where I bought a glock 19. Should I take this as a sign and get one or stick to my meme gun every day carry?

 

[WhoBusTank69]

or stick to my meme gun every day carry?

1. why is your carry gun a meme
2. what is it

 

[Bassomatic]

Had a dream last night where I bought a glock 19. Should I take this as a sign and get one or stick to my meme gun every day carry?

Carrying meme guns is based AF do it. But g19 is a wonderful setup. Funny enough out of the 50+ guns I own... my wife has a knock off g19 as her CC.

It's actually on my list for a meme beater. I'm very firm guns are very person to person, I'll never say "best" etc but if you don't care even if you do and want to get into pistols the g19 is the gun. It's like a swiss army knife. Big enough, fine for duty. Can still carry hidden. Eat spicy ammo, lots of rounds, doesn't "need" cleaning (yes upkeep your fire arms but glocks fire fine in mud) .

I can't speak well enough of the g19 it's the F150 of guns.

Also I don't own one because why have a 19 when you can carry a ported 20 or a 1903?

Semi related, I've been listening to this Audio book about Harry Houdini, his mentors and friends always said never do the bullet trick. It's too risky, one of the people whom was big at his time died from it.

It's still done by Penn and Teller etc current people and we know how. But my Q, was apparently the man who was killed on trick was black powder. Googled a bit, but can't find. How do you have a black powder gun, that has a blank in front of the round that doesn't go off? I hope I worded it right.

tl;dr how did black powder do the catch a bullet magic trick?

 

[TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve]

It's still done by Penn and Teller etc current people and we know how. But my Q, was apparently the man who was killed on trick was black powder. Googled a bit, but can't find. How do you have a black powder gun, that has a blank in front of the round that doesn't go off? I hope I worded it right.

tl;dr how did black powder do the catch a bullet magic trick?

I don't know how the trick works (or which specific trick it would be), is it just firing a blank and having someone pretend to catch the shot with their teeth?

For black powder I imagine the easiest way to fire a 'blank' would be a wax slug which, depending on the wax, might be dangerous. Bees wax melts at 150f, paraffin at 115-150f, and soy wax at 115-180f, depending on the formulation of the latter two. If you don't know what kind of wax you have, or if you make the 'slug' too big, it might not melt like you expect it to. You'd probably just want to drip a few drops of paraffin down the tube, enough to make a cap, but I can imagine someone making a full bullet of beeswax (or completely filling the cylinder) and getting ended by it

 

[Bassomatic]

I don't know how the trick works (or which specific trick it would be), is it just firing a blank and having someone pretend to catch the shot with their teeth?

For black powder I imagine the easiest way to fire a 'blank' would be a wax slug which, depending on the wax, might be dangerous. Bees wax melts at 150f, paraffin at 115-150f, and soy wax at 115-180f, depending on the formulation of the latter two. If you don't know what kind of wax you have, or if you make the 'slug' too big, it might not melt like you expect it to. You'd probably just want to drip a few drops of paraffin down the tube, enough to make a cap, but I can imagine someone making a full bullet of beeswax (or completely filling the cylinder) and getting ended by it

In current part of the trick they write a name on the bullet (current day so cartridge) and the "blank" fires off and some how that bullet ends up in the teeth of the other guy.

https://youtu.be/hYxHCFG03Bo how it works now.

with black powder not sure how to work.

Also aside guns Penn and Teller are super cool met them both IRL nicest people Teller talks in person .

 

[Forester Moth]

1. why is your carry gun a meme
2. what is it

1. I think buying, fixing up, and using strange and unusual firearms is funny and enjoyable
2. IMEZ Russian Makarov .380 ACP
For obvious reasons it's not the best thing to carry but I enjoy using it at the range and generally believe that it's better to carry a firearm you're use to and have the most practice with. That being said a glock 19 is more reliable with better ammo capacity but its less fun

 

[HelpingNoone]

tl;dr how did black powder do the catch a bullet magic trick?

I'm assuming the guy you are talking about its the white dude who went by Chung Ling Soo
From Wikipedia

The muskets Soo used in his act were brazed with extra steel barrels. After each performance, to avoid expending powder and bullets, Soo never unloaded his guns properly. Rather than firing them off or drawing the bullets with a screw-rod, as was normal practice, he removed the bullet and powder by dismantling the breeches of the guns. Over time, a residue of unburned gunpowder was able to form in the channel he had made to allow the flash to bypass the barrel and ignite a blank charge in the ramrod tube. Thus, when Soo performed the trick that night, ignition of the residue in the channel allowed the flash from the pan to also ignite the charge behind the bullet not intended to be fired that was loaded into the barrel of the gun being used. Consequently, the bullet fired in the normal way, hitting Soo in the chest. The circumstances of the accident were verified by the gun expert Robert Churchill. Soo's death was ruled "accidental"with a final verdict of "misadventure".

TL;DR
It appears as if he modified the flashpan to set off powder in a steel ramrod tube to mimic firing .

Gun was loaded normally in the act and that time some sparks set off the real barrel.

 

[Seafarer]

Bullpup M1 Carbine

 

[Club Sandwich]

That is, the end of a free float hand guard, towards the muzzle end, can become canted and off center

as mentioned by others, the preference is to have the free float tube either not holding the sights at all and instead have the sights mounted to the barrel (and this was common for a long time on NM rifles and so forth), or use a tube that has centering tabs or something.

my little secret is dual purposing my scope ring lapping fixture to hold a length of copper pipe about 30 inches long parallel to the free float tube. the copper tube has a V notch precisely cut into the end that's absolutely centered and i use that to draw a tiny sharpie index mark on the barrel. i then use a cheapo laser pen in the V notch to highlight the slightly reflective mark so i can keep track of any rotation and misalignment. the "fine tip" sharpie is good enough and the laser spot is about 1mm at a distance of a few inches at most.

during torque, the tube is carefully kept aligned and checked after meeting the torque spec on the lock nut or whatever is in use. with care, the resulting misalignment is typically very small and easily corrected for at the rear sight.

a .40 cal 226 with the short extractor and wanted to put a 9mm barrel in it's place do they need a specific 9mm conversion barrel

an aftermarket 9mm barrel should be a drop in replacement (together with a recoil spring assembly) to convert a short-extractor SIG P226 from .40 S&W to 9mm. the magazine feed lips are slightly different, but this should not be much of an issue outside of duty or defense use (use .40 S&W mags for 9mm as range mags only).

if you want to use a factory 9mm barrel, you will need a 9mm slide and recoil spring assembly as well.

the long extractor is specific to the slide but a "long extractor" slide can accept the short extractor if you don't mind the hole in the slide it leaves. the long extractor is arguably "better" than the short extractor in compact pistols, but imho is somewhat meaningless in full sized pistols. i prefer to not mix and match this sort of stuff.

 

[AGPinochet]

AGPinochet tries to definitively with a relatively high degree of confidence try to settle the discussion as to whether 6.8x51 military pressure loadings with EPR Projectiles can consistently penetrate body armor at ranges where that actually matters / AGPinochet plays amateur ballistician armed with YouTube videos and extrapolations

The Army might be doing something even dumber in relation to the NGSW Program
This is said to be a product improved version of the XM-7 at the recent DSEI Arms show

Matthew Moss is reporting that Sig Saar Reps said with the 10.5 Barrel of the "M7 PIP" XM-1186 gets "2800-2900fps" at the muzzle, compared to 3000fps for a 13in model. This is interesting because if we refer to what I believe is the only hard, non word of mouth data we have regarding XM-1186 data the listed velocity is 3159fps at 78ft.




I had assumed previously that this data was gathered from rounds fired through a 13"Suppressed XM-7 but if Sig Saar themselves is saying 3000fps than that can only means one thing. Data was gathered through a suppressed XM-250 with 16" barrel, meaning that standard infantry rifles have even less armor penetrating capability than previously thought, and if the "M7 PIP" configuration is adopted they'll be further lessened. This isn't even considering future advances in body armor


Source for velocity claims is 1:24

I'd say this firmly kills the "NGSW Super Sniper Body Armor = cardboard" narrative

 

[Dean Pentel]

Anyone here run a lever action .44 mag rifle? I was considering picking up a Marlin 1894 after I get my next precision rifle built. Anyone that's had a good amount of time behind a centerfire lever action rifle I'm interested to hear the thoughts of.

 

[Akran]

Is reloading 7.62x39 worth it in current year? I'm finally getting around to setting up my press and junk. I mainly want to reload ammo for my Steyr 1905 using 30 super carry cases and 7.62 tokarev bullets. I've only gotten to shot that thing twice cause the ammo I have has super hard primers, so I'm excited to finally be able to shoot a full clip soon.

 

[Taser Confetti]

Anyone here run a lever action .44 mag rifle? I was considering picking up a Marlin 1894 after I get my next precision rifle built. Anyone that's had a good amount of time behind a centerfire lever action rifle I'm interested to hear the thoughts of.

I've got one in .357 Magnum - one of the newer ones after Ruger purchased them and the quality control increased. It's quite a nice rifle. What's your use purpose?

 

[VeteranOfTheRetardWars]

Just picked up my new Mossberg 590 and man I can’t wait to take it out to the range.
I like shotguns, they make big boom and that pleases my chimpanzee brain.
Edit: Also, weird thing happened and my dad and I were cleaning out the garage and found a KelTec P11 my dad deadass forgot he even had. Neat little thing, I’ll clean it and take it out as well for a fun weekend.

 

[Forester Moth]

Is reloading 7.62x39 worth it in current year? I'm finally getting around to setting up my press and junk. I mainly want to reload ammo for my Steyr 1905 using 30 super carry cases and 7.62 tokarev bullets. I've only gotten to shot that thing twice cause the ammo I have has super hard primers, so I'm excited to finally be able to shoot a full clip soon.

worth it in the sense that reloading is a good skill to have and is worth getting your practice in but don't expect wicked savings, powder is pretty expensive now and a pain to find sometimes. If you do be careful, loading bigger rounds is always scarier to me than loading something like 9mm, so pay attention and don't make it hot. Also you'll have to go out of your way to buy brass ammo because you can't reload steel

 

[Club Sandwich]

Anyone here run a lever action .44 mag rifle?

yes, I use a Marlin guide gun in stainless 20" with a short rail section for a trijicon SRO (1st gen, pretty beat up but work well for intended purpose). it'll take moose and black even brown bear if you do your part, it's lightweight enough for backpacking and has heft and a recoil pad for some heavy 300gr JSP went up around shasta and the cascades. i did eventually get a .45-70 for better terminal performance on bear, but a .44 is sure handy when you have a revolver in the same cartridge and it's real easy to reload if you're mindful of your brass. can't recommend it enough as a solid backpack gun.

you will absolutely need to keep OAL of your ammo in mind since the 1894 in .44 is much less forgiving than the .357 or .45 Colt due to them reusing some parts, but commercial ammo will work without much problems. shoutout to the Grizzly 1895 in .45-70 - a semi-custom lever gun for bigger/dangerous game.

also as a cheap backpack lever gun is a Rossi M92 in .357, which like the PT92, isn't really a design and production line that Taurus screwed with other than cheaping out on finishing.

 

[Smoke Manmuscle]

Matthew Moss is reporting that Sig Saar Reps said with the 10.5 Barrel of the "M7 PIP" XM-1186 gets "2800-2900fps" at the muzzle, compared to 3000fps for a 13in model. This is interesting because if we refer to what I believe is the only hard, non word of mouth data we have regarding XM-1186 data the listed velocity is 3159fps at 78ft.
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I had assumed previously that this data was gathered from rounds fired through a 13"Suppressed XM-7 but if Sig Saar themselves is saying 3000fps than that can only means one thing. Data was gathered through a suppressed XM-250 with 16" barrel, meaning that standard infantry rifles have even less armor penetrating capability than previously thought, and if the "M7 PIP" configuration is adopted they'll be further lessened. This isn't even considering future advances in body armor


Source for velocity claims is 1:24

I'd say this firmly kills the "NGSW Super Sniper Body Armor = cardboard" narrative

That’s interesting as it lines up with the SAAMI pressure and velocity data. Note that they are testing out of a 16” V&P test barrel, not a 13” suppressed gun.

 

[Bassomatic]

I'm assuming the guy you are talking about its the white dude who went by Chung Ling Soo
From Wikipedia

TL;DR
It appears as if he modified the flashpan to set off powder in a steel ramrod tube to mimic firing .

Gun was loaded normally in the act and that time some sparks set off the real barrel.

Yeah wow that was exactly whom I read about, well listened. I am a nerd and listen to audio books at work and fell into a Houndi hole, super cool guy. But that fake chinese man, there was another who was actually Chinese who did magic. But early 1900s "fighting weeaboo magik" was a draw. Super neat thanks for posting.

Anyone here run a lever action .44 mag rifle? I was considering picking up a Marlin 1894 after I get my next precision rifle built. Anyone that's had a good amount of time behind a centerfire lever action rifle I'm interested to hear the thoughts of.

Ruger made a semi like this gosh I want one. I love the cowboy mindset of a rifle with your pistol. Perhaps I watched too much gun smoke.

Is reloading 7.62x39 worth it in current year? I'm finally getting around to setting up my press and junk. I mainly want to reload ammo for my Steyr 1905 using 30 super carry cases and 7.62 tokarev bullets. I've only gotten to shot that thing twice cause the ammo I have has super hard primers, so I'm excited to finally be able to shoot a full clip soon.

Do it. It's not about the money, it's about sending a message. /cringe. Jokes aside x39 is wonderful round and gets shit on as the nigger AK bullet. If you look at a loading book, it can really flex. I reload as a hobby and pretty simple setup. CZ makes a dope bolt x39 gun I want. 7.62 tok is based AF.

Lastly I have austim and you buillied me saying clip jk it's mag say mag we're all gun nerds.

Just picked up my new Mossberg 590 and man I can’t wait to take it out to the range.
I like shotguns, they make big boom and that pleases my chimpanzee brain.
Edit: Also, weird thing happened and my dad and I were cleaning out the garage and found a KelTec P11 my dad deadass forgot he even had. Neat little thing, I’ll clean it and take it out as well for a fun weekend.

Based dude gratz 590 is a great gun. WTF finding guns? even kel tec is still cool.

I ordered one of those PSA toks but I think they will rebate me, call it a gut feeling or more so, gunt feeling. They probably ran out.