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Recieved my RPTR yesterday, installed it today.

Notes from installation
  • The G3 vector rail does not have a retaining pin - it just has extra screws under the OEM flip irons. It doesn't even slide on, it just sorta sits on top of the upper.
  • Springs be sproinging - be careful disassembling the trigger pack. The trigger reset spring really really wants to go flying.
    • When I was disassembling the trigger I almost lost it, then when I was reassembling it and trying to hook it over the retaining screw I lost my grip on it and it went fucking flying off into space. After I ordered a new one and reassembled the gun without it, I stood up from my desk and naturally it fell out of my lap. At least now I have a spare.
  • Apparently it is being recommended to install the .40 main spring, so I will try that out.

Tried the 40 round stendo Glock mags from kriss and the 50 round promag drum. 40 rounders were flawless. The 50 rounder wouldn't chamber when it was full so I had to download 2 rounds before it would work.

Recoil was super manageable, as you'd expect. Only thing I had to control was horizontal recoil.

I only ran into one malfunction - a stovepipe (which happened at the end of this clip).

I didn't buy the 3 position selector switch since they weren't offering it at the time but whatever. It means the super safe position is kinda vague and you have to wiggle a bit to find it.

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Super super fun.

Definitely would love to get this for my Gen 3 eventually. Though, I feel iffy about having to install it myself. I wish I could just send them my upper half and have them do the install proper, but I understand how they can't offer that with them being a small outfit and all.
 
Though, I feel iffy about having to install it myself.

I've only done detail strips on a couple pistols and a rimfire bolt action, but the Vector was definitely on the easy side - with the single exception of the trigger reset spring which was annoying but only because I didn't have the right tool on hand and I rushed it. Next time I'll get the dental pick and hemostats out lol. Pistol trigger assemblies are finnicky as fuck by comparison.

Oh I will add it to the original post because I forgot to put it in my notes - there was one other difficult point in the disassembly. The pin that holds the sear to the trigger was fairly difficult to get out. Partially because it was just a tight fit and partially because the trigger has some goofy geometry and I couldn't really get it in a good position to knock the pin out. I ended up using zip ties to keep it from wobbling around. I imagine if I had a proper bench block it would have been easier.

I'll take pictures tomorrow when I go back to put the trigger reset spring back, you'll see what I mean.

Once the pin was out, putting it back in was easy.
 
I've only done detail strips on a couple pistols and a rimfire bolt action, but the Vector was definitely on the easy side - with the single exception of the trigger reset spring which was annoying but only because I didn't have the right tool on hand and I rushed it. Next time I'll get the dental pick and hemostats out lol. Pistol trigger assemblies are finnicky as fuck by comparison.

Oh I will add it to the original post because I forgot to put it in my notes - there was one other difficult point in the disassembly. The pin that holds the sear to the trigger was fairly difficult to get out. Partially because it was just a tight fit and partially because the trigger has some goofy geometry and I couldn't really get it in a good position to knock the pin out. I ended up using zip ties to keep it from wobbling around. I imagine if I had a proper bench block it would have been easier.

I'll take pictures tomorrow when I go back to put the trigger reset spring back, you'll see what I mean.

Once the pin was out, putting it back in was easy.
If you can, do the work in a big ziplock back when there is a potential for parts to fly
 
If Trumps peace plan goes through and all sanctions are lifted, How long before we get Saigas and Veprs back you reckon? I remember seeing them in store but i was too young to buy a gun when they were banned.
Even if it goes through, I highly doubt we will get Russian imports ever again. Ammo and weapon import bans get implemented, but they never get rescinded. We suck off China like it's our day job but still won't import Norinco arms or ammo. We still got import bans on Zimbabwe preventing them from importing 7.62x39...

This is because Europe has banned lead for all ammunition. A lot of these old guns have barrels that can’t support firing steel so instead they are being imported to the US which still allows lead for everything except waterfowl.
God damn, RIP eurobros. Truly a conquered continent.
Recieved my RPTR yesterday, installed it today.

Notes from installation
  • The G3 vector rail does not have a retaining pin - it just has extra screws under the OEM flip irons. It doesn't even slide on, it just sorta sits on top of the upper.
  • Springs be sproinging - be careful disassembling the trigger pack. The trigger reset spring really really wants to go flying.
    • When I was disassembling the trigger I almost lost it, then when I was reassembling it and trying to hook it over the retaining screw I lost my grip on it and it went fucking flying off into space. After I ordered a new one and reassembled the gun without it, I stood up from my desk and naturally it fell out of my lap. At least now I have a spare.
  • The pin that holds the sear and trigger together was difficult to get out. Partially because it was just a tight fit and partially because the trigger has some goofy geometry and I couldn't really get it in a good position to knock the pin out. I ended up using zip ties to keep it from wobbling around. I imagine if I had a proper bench block it would have been easier.
  • I have heard that if you run the 9mm Vector, you should swap your main spring for the 45ACP/40S&W one, so I will try that out.

Tried the 40 round stendo Glock mags from Kriss and the 50 round promag drum. 40 rounders were flawless. The 50 rounder wouldn't chamber when it was full so I had to download 2 rounds before it would work.

Recoil was super manageable, as you'd expect. Only thing I had to control was horizontal recoil.

I only ran into one malfunction - a stovepipe (which happened at the end of this clip).

I didn't buy the 3 position selector switch since they weren't offering it at the time but whatever. It means the super safe position is kinda vague and you have to wiggle a bit to find it.

View attachment 8202776

Super super fun.
That's good info, thanks. Would appreciate an update here if you do get in an alternative recoil spring, to see if that improves performance. I have found my 9mm vector already seems pretty stiff and prefers higher pressure ammo, so I am not sure why a stiffer spring would be needed for the FRT.
 
I am not sure why a stiffer spring would be needed for the FRT.
Yeah I don't know either. I was already ordering a replacement spring so I picked it up since it wasn't that expensive.

I have found my 9mm vector already seems pretty stiff and prefers higher pressure ammo
I'm curious to compare notes then, Id like to get it running as reliably as possible.

I've been running 9mm 115gr @ 1150fps (its just basic bitch bulk training ammo) - I was having a lot of failure to feed // failure to eject for the first 500 rounds. Some time after that it improved significantly. The main malfunctions I get now are stovepipes and the aforementioned issue chambering the fully loaded 50 round magazine.

I have cleaned and lubed maybe like 3 or 4 times but only because I enjoy doing it, not because it particularly needed it. I have not used grease like I've heard some people suggest. The manual says to use gun oil (they have some specific brand but I use Hoppes #9).
 
holy shit, there is now a video of a p320 as it goes off in a holster, the only thing the user does is put his hand on the grip

>no evidence of mechanical failure
Isn't the entire problem that it's a design and tolerance failure across multiple parts which cause a cascade failure resulting in the gun firing uncommanded? That's not a mechanical failure, it's a failure of mechanical engineers.

e: To be clear I'm sitting here a glock taking up as much travel as I can with my finger ON the trigger and wangling and/or smacking the slide as much as I can from above with my other hand. Nada happens except me looking like grug trying to figure out how glock work.
 
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The KDG quick mount rail arrived. I was under the impression the locking tabs were just under positive spring tension all the time, and when you want to remove the rail from an M-Lok slot you just squeeze them, remove the rail, and they pop back into place once you stop squeezing them. On the contrary, they are like KDG's Sidelock optics mounts where they lock into place when you squeeze them in, and when you snap the rail into the M-Lok slot three releases get tripped and the tabs will then snap into place, securing the rail in the slot.

Sadly, it will not work on my Gen 3 Vector due to the way the handguard is designed. The handguard on the Gen 3 is a separate piece from the rest of the receiver that is bolted into place. This makes it super easy to mount any accessory that uses your typical M-Lok bolts and nuts. However, because the receiver is right under the handguard, it means the slot is too shallow for the mount on the rail to seat fully into place and allow the tabs to be released to spring into the secure position.

It works just great on my Deep Six chassis for my Franklin Armory F22, which is half the reason I bought this rail, so that I'll have a light on the F22 in the event that any varmints get into my wife's chicken coop when it's dark. So I've also ordered an aluminum cantilevered rail from MagPul to mount to my Vector since it just uses regular M-Lok nuts and bolts which I know will fit on the handguard since I've got other M-Lok accessories mounted to it. Still, kind of a bummer. I wanted to be able to just keep the Surefire mounted to the rail and swap the whole thing between the two when needed.

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holy shit, there is now a video of a p320 as it goes off in a holster, the only thing the user does is put his hand on the grip


This is just getting ridiculous at this point. This is probably the best video yet and Sig doesn't even offer an explanation, no accusations of improper handling or keys or debris in the holster. Just "Our guns work good shut up".

There are two perspectives that one can hold in regards to the great P320 Debate

1. Something is wrong with at least some P320's but nobody can definitively say what and Sig denies there's a problem at all. I'm not saying that every P320 incident is the fault of the gun or that none are self inflicted, but come on, this doesn't happen anywhere near this scale with Glocks, M&P's, FN's, Walther's or even Springfields.

2. Nothing s wrong with the P320, it is simply a strange coincidence of the universe that so many uniquely retarded people from civilians to cops to soldiers manage to shoot themselves and others with the P320. It is all a psyop by Glock because they're mad about losing the MHS Contract.

There is maybe a 3rd/4th entrant into the Vector FRT game

In other Super Safety news, a South Carolina negro was arrested after s chimpout with a super safety equipped AR, the very retarded police improperly classified it as a machinegun
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Nexus Firearms is collaborating with Rare Breed to bring to market a 3 position FRT to for CZ Scorpion's.



-Works In Gen 1,2 and 3 factory models as well as Nexus Evo gen 1's and the upcoming gen 2's
-The trigger packs foe the Gen 1 Nexus and factory Scorpion models require "Modification"

If you do not want to give money to rare breed Duality Arms Co is also working on a scorpion FRT
They're also working on a CZ Scorpion FRT

PKZ
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Next we have some interesting ammunition from the AAI Corporation, a unique take on captive piston ammunition, where instead of a "traditional" piston, the projectile(s in this case) is propelled by an expanding sheet metal "bag" . AAI also developed 40mm grenades using the same mechanism under the DBCATA program.
Years ago I posted about some unique Captive piston ammunition that AAI made, I recently learned they had an experimental 9mm pistol cartridge that operated under the same principle
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For those that don't understand what they're looking at this Is how I understand it's function. The interior of the cartridge case has a thin metal insert soldered into it, I would assume powder is poured in through the primer pocket. On top of this metal insert is inserted the projectile (which is not in contact with the powder). When the primer is struck and the powder ignites and converts itself to gas, it folds the metal seal/insert/projectile cup outwards like a shaped charge, propelling the projectile down the barrel.

World's biggest aah suppressor




There may or may not be a hit piece on FRT's airing Monday


Decent video on the True Velocity RM834


Russian guys have FRT's now I guess
 
That's good info, thanks. Would appreciate an update here if you do get in an alternative recoil spring, to see if that improves performance. I have found my 9mm vector already seems pretty stiff and prefers higher pressure ammo, so I am not sure why a stiffer spring would be needed for the FRT.

Yeah I don't know either. I was already ordering a replacement spring so I picked it up since it wasn't that expensive.
The spring has to be strong enough to reset the trigger by pushing it forward while you are trying to pull it back.

Maybe reliability issues with the weaker spring?
 
Instead or "Go West Young Man" it's "Design that FRT"
Shortly before I wrote this some guy who only kind of understands how guns work (he got held up for 3 months because he didn't understand the concept of bolt bounce until he watched a YouTube video) and whom owns a hardware store in Idaho started posting to YouTube about his new "Rapid Safety", " The Splitfire". This guy using borrowed AR's, his background as a tinkerer and inventor as well as the friends in the firearms industry has designed his own FRT in the style of the Atrius/ARC Fire but without a spring on the cam for some reason.

Now I can tell just by the look of this guy and the environments he films in that he has money, business acumen and a determination to succeed. He's working on patents and everything, wants to start shipping by December or January.

We have Idaho farm boys and hardware store owners designing FRT's. Market saturation and proliferation is accelerating.

Most of these videos were posted in the last three days

 
If they come out with a 10/22 FRT that comes in a drop-in trigger pack like Franklin Armory does for their 10/22 binary trigger, I may have to seriously consider getting one for my F22. To me, an FRT in a .22lr, especially something like a 10/22, is just a no-brainer since they're cheap as hell to shoot.
 
Haven't watched the video yet but if this thing works with a dedicated .22lr upper I'm interested.
 
A quick note on less expensive in-ear hearing protection:

Axil stuff is alright. I have a pair of XCORs and the GS Extreme 3.0. The XCOR works well enough if you ensure you get the best fit possible from the tips it comes with. Mash them down and shove them as far into your canals as possible.

The GS Extreme is essentially the same thing but with a concha lock and a wired control. More battery life and a bit less expensive.

Both have a Bluetooth capability which I couldn't care less about. Neither is going to give as much protection as active ear muffs + foam ear plugs (my favorite combo).

Harris & Sons are still the best but the above are far less expensive. I like using in-ear stuff when I'm shooting rifles because the stock will often knock a muff off my right ear just enough to be a problem.
 
I'm curious to compare notes then, Id like to get it running as reliably as possible.

I've been running 9mm 115gr @ 1150fps (its just basic bitch bulk training ammo) - I was having a lot of failure to feed // failure to eject for the first 500 rounds. Some time after that it improved significantly. The main malfunctions I get now are stovepipes and the aforementioned issue chambering the fully loaded 50 round magazine.

I have cleaned and lubed maybe like 3 or 4 times but only because I enjoy doing it, not because it particularly needed it. I have not used grease like I've heard some people suggest. The manual says to use gun oil (they have some specific brand but I use Hoppes #9).
Well, you definitely have more rounds through yours than mine, I've been quite busy since I got it. I only roughly track, I am probably at 500ish with one cleaning, though over half those rounds were first range session. Was using S&B 115 grain 9mm and was having a fair amount of stovepiping, or even worse, two rounds where the spent case got jammed into the breach and was a bitch to extract. Swapped to the Winchester 115 grain 9mm High Pressure 9mm that is basically the new NATO +p load (and can be found for similar prices to standard range) and it ran much better. All were ran with the ~30 round OEM Glock mags. Will have to find time to put more rounds through it to see if that fixed it fully, but I suspected that the heavy bolt spring wasn't traveling back fully with the lower pressure ammo, which was causing the malfunctions.

I also ran some of my buddy's 124 and 147 standard pressure through, but he just throws all his ammo into a bag so I have no idea what it was. Ran ok, but he only did a couple of mags worth.

I use the M Pro 7 gun oil, has worked fine on everything from old milsurps to my new toys. Grease has a tendency to gum up in colder climates so I avoid it.

Not sure if any of this was helpful or not, but I appreciate the info from you. I will try to remember to update when I get more rounds through it.
 
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