Mega Rad Gun Thread

where the fuck do you guys find these people? I have never been thrown off a range, ever and I've never actually seen a fudd in person before despite living among what should be the fuddiest fudds to ever fudd.
There used to be an indoor pistol range around here run by boomers that absolutely never wanted to do anything to make it better or get word out that it was a thing and it eventually closed its doors when the guy running things died and no one knew where he left the keys so they kinda gave up on keeping it running for even a day a week (I am not memeing that was what spurred it closing for good)
 
Are there any machinists or smart people that can give more insight into this problem

I'm not a machinist, but I have machining and manufacturing engineering experience with business ownership under my belt, so I might be able to answer your question if I knew what the question was. I'm not seeing a question or a problem here. Your price estimating experiment makes sense with the cheapest suppressor they list being $470, and it's a wasteful small scale production.

And no I am not going to get into the suppressor business even though I could. Seems a risky business that could get destroyed with the stroke of a pen and the industry will likely be saturated and highly competitive in the near future.
 
Are there any machinists or smart people that can give more insight into this problem
Are you asking why a large manufacturer doesn't just come in and stamp baffles?

The buyers market is still really limited because most consumers don't understand the legality of suppressors and the paperwork is still a giant headache. Until you can get your average consumer to buy on impulse "over the counter" I don't think production capacity/speed matters that much.
I assume because the margins are so high that no one really cares to invest in it. Buyers here don't really prioritize suppressor cost, so there really isn't a fight to the bottom with price.

Baffles turned on a CNC do have some advantages and are cranked out faster than you would expect.
They are far more concentric which leads to a lower chance of alignment issues like baffle strikes & POI shifts.
While already on the machine you can add features which makes them far easier and more accurate to fixture/weld.
You also recycle the chips and large part of your raw stock cost back.

A healthy suppressor company is going to at least 2x or 3x'ing their money with a CNC'd suppressor. Say you could make a stamped suppressor for $50 bucks and sell it for $100; the volume of customers just isn't there to make cheap cans worth it IMO.
 
I have discovered that if you wanna make new friends at a shooting range, bring a somewhat novel gun with a can on it.

Ran another 250 147gr through the Dissent suppressed, but I'm pretty sure that about half of that was shot by curious onlookers that wanted to know what I was shooting (sort of the same way that people look over when you shoot magnum revolvers, but from the other end of the noise/blast spectrum - even if the Hux can is considered loud, it was quieter than anything else on the line), and I was more than happy to let anyone that asked run a dozen shots or so.
 
Kids, this is why BLM and public ranges are your friend. Good clubs too, but I know not everyone has that privilege.
The unfortunate thing is that BLM land is only really readily available west of 100°W and it's actually pretty hard to come by public land that's good for shooting, other than for hunting, anywhere east of the Mississippi.
 
Not gun specific but what's a plate carrier that fits 1.25 inch thick plates? Have a set of hesco 3611Cs and found out the carrier i got isnt fucking big enough to fit them.
 
Today I discovered the secret ingredient for accurate pistol shooting, and that's the insatiable need to mog. Earlier I was shooting some of my handguns and doing pretty terrible, something like 8" groups at 15yd that I couldn't tighten up for the life of me. Then when I was all frustrated and getting ready to wrap up, two guys showed up to the range with their PSA ARs equipped with what appeared to be cheap ass Sig Romeo red dots. One of them couldn't figure out if his sight was dead or turned off, and the other suggested looking for a charging port. Eventually they managed to get their sights working and started blasting. At this range there's a 16"x16" steel plate at 300yd and what appears to be an approximately 3'x3' large steel plate at 100yd. They started trying to hit the 300yd plate and kept missing, so they switched to the substantially easier 100yd plate. They were still missing. At this point the spirit of Jeff Cooper overcame me and I grabbed my 10mm pistol and took aim at the 100yd plate. After a couple dry firing cycles, I loaded my gun up and fired. It hit. I then continued to empty the rest of my 15 rounds at the plate and hit it 8 more times. Then after reloading, I decided to see what would happen if I shot at the 300yd plate. The bullet hit about 10 feet low into the dirt so I aimed at the horizon and heard a *ding*. By this point the other guys had refilled their magazines and started blasting at the 100yd plate, and after about 10 more rounds from one of them he found where to aim and started rapidly unloading (from a supported position) into the 100yd plate. When they were done with that, I took some more somewhat rapidly paced shots (2-3 seconds per) at the 100yd plate and was getting about 60-75% hits. This back and forth went on for a little while until some other guys showed up and the original two dudes left. At that point I completely lost my newfound pistol shooting abilities and was right back to where I was at the start of the range trip.
 
Thinking about picking up a very gently used S&W PC Model 627 for 700USD. Thoughts?

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I would be deleting the Hillary hole.
It's still there however. S&W is slowly deleting them. forced by California ironically, CA law requires higher levels of drop safety. S&W chose to incorporate a new drop safety mechanism using the space previously occupied by the internal lock. Colt cut a small shelf on the hammer to meet the reqs.

If you could jew him down a hundred or two i'd say go for it if you are able to inspect it first hand for defects.
 
Today I tried fanning the hammer on a pietta 1873 45lc. I guess I fucked up the timing and my ring finger got caught in between the frame and its external firing pin. As I cocked the hammer back my finger went with it, I had to twist the revolver to get its firing pin out of my finger. Minor bleeding, and all thats left is a small hole and swelling.
I can see why this was mostly a show trick, would not recommend fanning the hammer on a external firing pin revolver for any cowboy kiwis out there.
 
Today I tried fanning the hammer on a pietta 1873 45lc. I guess I fucked up the timing and my ring finger got caught in between the frame and its external firing pin. As I cocked the hammer back my finger went with it, I had to twist the revolver to get its firing pin out of my finger. Minor bleeding, and all thats left is a small hole and swelling.
I can see why this was mostly a show trick, would not recommend fanning the hammer on a external firing pin revolver for any cowboy kiwis out there.
It will also fuck up the internals if you do it enough. nothing that can't be replaced but spare yourself the headache. just holding the trigger down and cocking it normal like is just as fast and you can actually hit shit.
 
Today I tried fanning the hammer on a pietta 1873 45lc.
It will also fuck up the internals if you do it enough.
Pietta and Uberti are great to look at but the working innards can be very soft and averse to heavy usage, in the case of fanning the hand usually gets mashed up and deformed. Pietta allegedly has better internal parts quality, bonus points for Cimarron's premium offerings, but a low sample size and people not often firing cowboy guns with gusto can have skewed results.
 
Today I tried fanning the hammer on a pietta 1873 45lc. I guess I fucked up the timing and my ring finger got caught in between the frame and its external firing pin. As I cocked the hammer back my finger went with it, I had to twist the revolver to get its firing pin out of my finger. Minor bleeding, and all thats left is a small hole and swelling.
I can see why this was mostly a show trick, would not recommend fanning the hammer on a external firing pin revolver for any cowboy kiwis out there.
It will also fuck up the internals if you do it enough. nothing that can't be replaced but spare yourself the headache. just holding the trigger down and cocking it normal like is just as fast and you can actually hit shit.
The show guns are all modified and are reliable:
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Are there any machinists or smart people that can give more insight into this problem

I'm not a machinist, but I have machining and manufacturing engineering experience with business ownership under my belt, so I might be able to answer your question if I knew what the question was. I'm not seeing a question or a problem here. Your price estimating experiment makes sense with the cheapest suppressor they list being $470, and it's a wasteful small scale production.

And no I am not going to get into the suppressor business even though I could. Seems a risky business that could get destroyed with the stroke of a pen and the industry will likely be saturated and highly competitive in the near future.
Number 1 thing they can do decrease costs is move to longer bars. They are paying a premium for the supplier to cut them down from 20’ sticks as they come from the mill to 4’ sticks to fit in their CNC machine. The don’t know what they are paying but based on what I could find from an online supply house they could cut their material costs by 30-40% just by buying 20ft sticks and sawing them on a band saw in house.
 
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