Infected MGTOW - Men Going Their Own Way

[CheezzyMach]

Masculine-presenting transgender black, muslim lesbians. Masculine presenting in such that you act like a male. Add in transracial to be a minoirty. In short - outcrazy the crazies is his exact words. Use their own stupidity against them. Biden just signed off on transgenders being allowed in women's sports, so, eh.

I'm personally for it, if you wanna be. Use diversity quotas and such against companies that implement acts based off race, especially since you can just... pretend to be whatever. At this point in history, it's whoever can LARP hardest can win.

All Biden did was reverse Trump reversals on Obama era polices regarding Transgenders.

Were Conservatives and terfs just living under a rock before 2015?

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

Can you link where you're getting that? Google doesn't make it seem like a particularly common phenomenon, and one of the few recent examples I can recall of a woman being charged for a false report is the one spoilered below, and she received no jail time. Other than that, the last time I heard of a woman being jailed for false accusations was because she made 15 false reports. Most of what I'm finding on google (with the exception of the UK lesbian whose story I linked) is stories about women that, if charged, don't get jail time, occasionally get probation, and rarely get custodial sentences of any kind.

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In fact, some feminists insist that charging women with false reporting of rape will deter them from reporting actual rapes. (One)(Two)(Three).

You can find some tard saying anything. That's the iron truth of this site.
For the case you linked; given that nobody was arrested and she pled guilty, it doesn't surprise me that she didn't get jail time- that would be proportional if a guy made up an equivalent false accusation and pled guilty.
Here's a pair of other examples of women serving hard time for far less than 15 false reports:
Australia
Murrica (the sentence is short, but Sacred Heart is a rich-kid prep school and money and status shorten jail sentences for "embarrassments" like false reports: that's just an iron fact of life)
Bri'in
I found these with less than a minute of googling with very poor SEO in my search terms- I can remember a few others,
Now, you can argue that these sentences are too lenient, that they should serve the same sentence as rape 1, or twice it, or that rape accusations should carry the death penalty. Personally, I feel like littering should be punished by the removal of a hand. But your claim- that they never get jail time unless they make some over-the-moon tier accusations that force even the most naive fool to ask questions- is trivially-easy to disprove. The American one also demonstrates something that MGTOW claim never happens- men consensually sleep with a woman, she regrets it and retroactively turns their sex into rape, and the cops ask questions, determine that's bullshit, and bring charges against the woman for false accusation.

 

[TerribleIdeas™]

You can find some tard saying anything. That's the iron truth of this site.
For the case you linked; given that nobody was arrested and she pled guilty, it doesn't surprise me that she didn't get jail time- that would be proportional if a guy made up an equivalent false accusation and pled guilty.
Here's a pair of other examples of women serving hard time for far less than 15 false reports:
Australia
Murrica (the sentence is short, but Sacred Heart is a rich-kid prep school and money and status shorten jail sentences for "embarrassments" like false reports: that's just an iron fact of life)
Bri'in
I found these with less than a minute of googling with very poor SEO in my search terms- I can remember a few others,
Now, you can argue that these sentences are too lenient, that they should serve the same sentence as rape 1, or twice it, or that rape accusations should carry the death penalty. Personally, I feel like littering should be punished by the removal of a hand. But your claim- that they never get jail time unless they make some over-the-moon tier accusations that force even the most naive fool to ask questions- is trivially-easy to disprove. The American one also demonstrates something that MGTOW claim never happens- men consensually sleep with a woman, she regrets it and retroactively turns their sex into rape, and the cops ask questions, determine that's bullshit, and bring charges against the woman for false accusation.

1st case -

There's my point about claims that "jail time reducing reporting", and she not only lied about Daniel Jones', but his father, as well.

2nd case -

She willfully lied, and was sentenced to a year plus parole, and created a situation where the two football players left the school, in fear of disciplinary action.

3rd case -

She got 2 men arrested.

Do you want to go over the number of false allegations that have caused suicides, murders, destruction of families, loss of work, etc.? Because I can promise you there's vastly more than 3 cases of that to be found, and the 3 cases you've cited have each of the sitting judges noting that the woman accused of a false allegation was unrepentant, and willfully making the false allegation.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

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There's my point about claims that "jail time reducing reporting", and she not only lied about Daniel Jones', but his father, as well.
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She willfully lied, and was sentenced to a year plus parole, and created a situation where the two football players left the school, in fear of disciplinary action.

3rd case -
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She got 2 men arrested.

Do you want to go over the number of false allegations that have caused suicides, murders, destruction of families, loss of work, etc.? Because I can promise you there's vastly more than 3 cases of that to be found, and the 3 cases you've cited have each of the sitting judges noting that the woman accused of a false allegation was unrepentant, and willfully making the false allegation.

No, I think we're far off enough in the autistic weeds without you moving the goal-posts around.

 

[Rust-froth]

Sorta old but interesting. Portland redditor deals with the homeless

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From the Reddit general. Hotel manager has to deal with homeless population. Homeless drug addict stays for a night then accuses him of sexually assaulting her in the elevator when he asks her to leave. Police make him go through security tapes and then say they can't do anything because "covid" when he wants them to arrest her for false rape accusations.

 

[Grumpy]

On another but similar note, whatever happened to "Misandry Today" I remember him being part of TFM's show and then he betrayed him for some reason, I recall a bit of drama around that ordeal and I know many men hated him for that.

"DDJ" always seemed like a real shyster to me, and his introductory story always gave me a tall tale vibe. Not to mention his conspiracy theorist tendencies. He uploads really infrequently now, and I think his lawsuit against Google was a dud like anyone with a functioning brain expected. Don't care enough to look past the first page of search results or play around with search terms to see if there's anything recent/relevant.

Look how many men leave their wives when they get cancer, vs the opposite.

We're gonna need a source for a claim that bold.

 

[off meds / online]

We're gonna need a source for a claim that bold.

When people make that claim, it's usually referring to this study.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The ''need'' for a men's domestic violence shelter comments are hilarious from MGTOW. Come on now guys. Do you not realize how ridiculous that is?

The reason why women have domestic violence shelters to take their children is because their male partners ''have like actually tried to kill them''. And they're not lying about it. The women's DV shelter in the city I lived in had to patrolled 24/7 by police and security and there was many instances of men trying to hop the fence or skulking the area trying to cause harm to their former spouse's.

There are a portion of MGTOW's that are DV perpetrators themselves and have tried to kill their spouse. They're just sorry they didn't succeed.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

The ''need'' for a men's domestic violence shelter comments are hilarious from MGTOW. Come on now guys. Do you not realize how ridiculous that is?

The reason why women have domestic violence shelters to take their children is because their male partners ''have like actually tried to kill them''. And they're not lying about it. The women's DV shelter in the city I lived in had to patrolled 24/7 by police and security and there was many instances of men trying to hop the fence or skulking the area trying to cause harm to their former spouse's.

There are a portion of MGTOW's that are DV perpetrators themselves and have tried to kill their spouse. They're just sorry they didn't succeed.

And there's women who've killed and battered their husbands. You can go "muh difference in strength!", but there's plenty of tools that make that no longer relevant.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

And there's women who've killed and battered their husbands. You can go "muh difference in strength!", but there's plenty of tools that make that no longer relevant.

But will that woman hop fences of a DV shelter, stalk motels once her husband/boyfriend leaves? unlikely. I've never seen this behavior except in rare cases of someone with severe mental illness. Most men can overpower a woman quite easily, not all, but most of the time. Even when women use weapons against men (apart from guns) it's not especially difficult to get the upper hand in most cases.

 

[Agarathium1066]

But will that woman hop fences of a DV shelter, stalk motels once her husband/boyfriend leaves? unlikely. I've never seen this behavior except in rare cases of someone with severe mental illness.

I see you've never in your life dealt with a crazy ex-spouse or even a stalker-y woman. They exist, they're extremely abusive, and they can do really awful things. Glad you haven't had to experience it at the least.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

But will that woman hop fences of a DV shelter, stalk motels once her husband/boyfriend leaves? unlikely. I've never seen this behavior except in rare cases of someone with severe mental illness. Most men can overpower a woman quite easily, not all, but most of the time. Even when women use weapons against men (apart from guns) it's not especially difficult to get the upper hand in most cases.

And I've never seen the behavior that leads women to take shelter in DV shelters in cases of severe mental illness (antisocial personalities are a type of mental illness). Your point?

 

[off meds / online]

There should be DV shelters for both men and women. Men have the need to separate themselves and/or their children from abusive situations, women have abused and murdered their husbands/children. It's kind of ridiculous that we have almost no resources for male abuse victims and their children.

 

[Mr Snek]

There should be DV shelters for both men and women. Men have the need to separate themselves and/or their children from abusive situations, women have abused and murdered their husbands/children. It's kind of ridiculous that we have almost no resources for male abuse victims and their children.

If there was, there would be protests around the block demanding they kick out the men and be open for women within a week.

 

[off meds / online]

If there was, there would be protests around the block demanding they kick out the men and be open for women within a week.

I disagree, this is leaning towards what I consider MGTOW rhetoric that's demonstrably false. Mens' shelters in the Dallas, TX area were actually very well received.

The main issue isn't crazy feminists demanding spaces for women. As demonstrated in this very thread, it's that lots of people just don't take abuse of men seriously on either side of the sociopolitical spectrum, so less resources are allocated for them. I think ignoring that in favor of complaining about them gosh darned feminazis is part of why people don't take MGTOW and similar mens' rights movements very seriously.

 

[Sweetpeaa]

The MGTOW's aren't representing the whole story about custody battles either. It may have gone bad for them personally, but child custody cases are very much related to parental income and stability. Courts do not always favor the Mother, Men DO win full custody of their children more often than you think. Especially if you have a good job, a good lawyer and no criminal or psychiatric history you can get full custody.

 

[Mr Snek]

I disagree, this is leaning towards what I consider MGTOW rhetoric that's demonstrably false. Mens' shelters in the Dallas, TX area were actually very well received.

The main issue isn't crazy feminists demanding spaces for women. As demonstrated in this very thread, it's that lots of people just don't take abuse of men seriously on either side of the sociopolitical spectrum, so less resources are allocated for them. I think ignoring that in favor of complaining about them gosh darned feminazis is part of why people don't take MGTOW and similar mens' rights movements very seriously.

Guess I'm just basing my opinions on personal prejudice then. The only mens shelter I've ever seen got shut down within a few weeks of it opening because the local council decided that it needed to be open to women as well or not open at all, which quickly became women only because no one wanted to be responsible for a shelter that lets both men and women in. This happened despite there already being 2 womens shelters nearby.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

The MGTOW's aren't representing the whole story about custody battles either. It may have gone bad for them personally, but child custody cases are very much related to parental income and stability. Courts do not always favor the Mother, Men DO win full custody of their children more often than you think. Especially if you have a good job, a good lawyer and no criminal or psychiatric history you can get full custody.

De jure, that's true, but de facto the Tender Years doctrine is still being enforced when you look at the statistics. If you control for income, a woman is considerably more likely to get full custody- and that's when a man even bothers to fight for custody in the first place. There's a lot of divorced fathers who would like to be a larger part of their kids' lives, but end up getting screwed because they think that it's impossible for them to get anything better than every other weekend.

 

[off meds / online]

Guess I'm just basing my opinions on personal prejudice then. The only mens shelter I've ever seen got shut down within a few weeks of it opening because the local council decided that it needed to be open to women as well or not open at all, which quickly became women only because no one wanted to be responsible for a shelter that lets both men and women in. This happened despite there already being 2 womens shelters nearby.

If it was a council decision, I'm assuming it was less based on any potential protests, and more based on funding and perceived need. Which is extremely unfortunate. Men still have some support from DV shelters, even ones that are women only - often they'll be put up in hotels and given access to other resources that aren't on-premises - but I still don't think that's enough.

I think that for mens' shelters to be more widespread and effective, we as a society need to put more emphasis on the fact that it's okay for men to need and accept help. It's not a change that'll happen overnight by any means, but it needs to happen. It's unacceptable that men who are victimized don't get the same care and support that women in that position do.

I wouldn't consider myself a mens' rights activist by any means, I just see things like this as basic common sense. Even if we're operating passed purely on statistics, men should still have at least half the amount of shelters that women do.

 

[CheezzyMach]

The MGTOW's aren't representing the whole story about custody battles either. It may have gone bad for them personally, but child custody cases are very much related to parental income and stability. Courts do not always favor the Mother, Men DO win full custody of their children more often than you think. Especially if you have a good job, a good lawyer and no criminal or psychiatric history you can get full custody.

Yeah my sister in law has had to fight her ex tooth and nail to get her kid because he was better off than she was.