Militia Movement: Spastics with Automatic Weapons and Tinfoil

[TowinKarz]

You will occasionally see militiatards with actual military experience, but quite often, separation was under less than honorable conditions.

More often, they're wannabes, though.

Not only that, but I get the feeling they are wannabees because the military has, you know, standards? And chains of command? And perks based on merit? Those pesky things that prevent you from just waving your guns at anything that annoys you and calling it a day.

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

These guys remind me of some of those crazy political wack jobs that attempted to secede from the US. No, I don't mean the Civil War. I'm not much of a political buff but the idea of a state attempting to completely break away from the US and become its own autonomous region is funny to me for many reasons.

Honestly, I don't know why these guys are itching for a fight so much. Ignoring what everyone else has said about the absurdities of an actual war to begin with, a "patriotic war to restore the American Constitution" on domestic soil has so many different logistical and ethical issues that anyone with half a brain could point out.

To put it concisely, I like being able to drive from my university to the nearby store to pick up groceries and then back to my house without the thought that a bunch of freedom fighters and government agents aren't gonna start a firefight on the route I take home.

The amount of collateral damage and the general disruption would be insane if that kind of shit ever happened, and certainly wouldn't be worth it for defending the Second Amendment or whatever they keep yapping on about.

(I mean, ignoring the obvious fact that if the government actually took them seriously, then they have hunting rifles and the army has tear gas and tanks, so I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the "resistance" lasts all of one hour.)

 

[Zim]

(I mean, ignoring the obvious fact that if the government actually took them seriously, then they have hunting rifles and the army has tear gas and tanks, so I'm willing to bet a lot of money that the "resistance" lasts all of one hour.)

They probably think the movie Red Dawn is how their war would go with the US or something. Never mind that in reality the US Army could easily crush them. Army advantages include things like tanks, air support, satellites, numbers, and a large amount of extremely dangerous spec ops guys.

 

[Morbid Boredom]

They probably think the movie Red Dawn is how their war would go with the US or something. Never mind that in reality the US Army could easily crush them. Army advantages include things like tanks, air support, satellites, numbers, and a large amount of extremely dangerous spec ops guys.

It’s Our Duty To Support The Troops And The Second Amendment In Case We Ever Need To Kill Them All

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

In the Colonial era militia membership was mandatory for every male, but nobody showed up for drills unless they gave out free rum and whiskey.

 

[DykesDykesChina]

Heck, if they have to keep the militia aspect train them as what militias are supposed to be, a mustered defense force for the whole country. Have them work with the government and basically use them as a reserve of the reserves. Make each member sign a declaration that in any defensive war that they would serve the United States first and foremost. That way you can keep your dang militia and the brotherhood aspects of it without having the aspects of attacking the U.S. at the drop of a hat.

If they did that they would just be another branch of the US Military like the National Guard. But that would go against their whole idea and self-image -- they seem to think the da gubinmint is run by Jewish Muslim Communist Hippies and therefore see themselves as a revolutionary force (hahahaha) training to fight against teh evul pinko commies in Washington.
If you want to be in a reserve working with the government you may apply for the National Guard or the police or any number of disaster relief organisations. But the militia cows probably were turned down when they showed up for the aptitude test pumped full of meth and it was found out that their reading and writing capabilities hadn't progressed much since kindergarten.

 

[Adamska]

If they did that they would just be another branch of the US Military like the National Guard. But that would go against their whole idea and self-image -- they seem to think the da gubinmint is run by Jewish Muslim Communist Hippies and therefore see themselves as a revolutionary force (hahahaha) training to fight against teh evul pinko commies in Washington.
If you want to be in a reserve working with the government you may apply for the National Guard or the police or any number of disaster relief organisations. But the militia cows probably were turned down when they showed up for the aptitude test pumped full of meth and it was found out that their reading and writing capabilities hadn't progressed much since kindergarten.

There's also the matter that they're too lazy to actually practice drill. Why condition my lard when I can just shoot tin cans and human shaped figures for a day? Formation? The fuck is that? The also tend to be too arrogant to easily listen to orders usually. It's why most militias tend to be small cells of like minded simpletons really; they get to0 big and they start squabbling like chickens over seniority and rank.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

The USA would just be a bunch of British, Russian & French colonies if it wasn't for militias. These people deserve respect for upholding basic American rights.

Actually that isn't the case. American secession occurred through organized military conflict. George Washington was originally a british general

 

[AnOminous]

Actually that isn't the case. American secession occurred through organized military conflict. George Washington was originally a british general

The equivalent of today's militias would be early seditionists like the Whiskey Rebellion, whom George Washington personally helped put down.

Here's his condemnation of this sort of lawless scum.

While these turds love to claim they are somehow following in the footsteps of the Founding Fathers, exactly the opposite is true and the Founders actually had to put down more than one group of these nasty little traitors to keep the country together in the early days.

 

[Long Sun]

Actually that isn't the case. American secession occurred through organized military conflict. George Washington was originally a british general

The War of 1812 is a better example the attempts to attack Canada with Militia ended in battles in which vastly outnumber Canada Colonial Troops and Militia(unlike the US not turning up for drill was punished) won the day. Basically training and equipment win the day.

This Militia would likely not be able to stand up to the average city police force much less a State defence force (closer to true militia) or National Guard. If regular army was used it would be an ass whipping

 

[TowinKarz]

I got a laugh and a half out of a member on a defunct car forum I was part of years back when he seriously proposed that his home state of Kentucky secede from the rest of the US because the gays were taking over..... and that was the only way to stop them. He was an odd person. He also spent most of his time drunk, worked part-time retail, drove a POS pickup, and whined all the time about how the women in his state were bitches who wouldn't give him the time of day and other proto-MRA nonsense.

 

[Long Sun]

Ammon Bundy Youtube account https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Jcjg5wuBAzYhFRF3jpE5A
His religious guidance in the stand-off

 

[AnOminous]

Ammon Bundy Youtube account https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Jcjg5wuBAzYhFRF3jpE5A
His religious guidance in the stand-off

Nice Mac. Think different, dude.

 

[An Ounce of Vagina]

They probably think the movie Red Dawn is how their war would go with the US or something. Never mind that in reality the US Army could easily crush them. Army advantages include things like tanks, air support, satellites, numbers, and a large amount of extremely dangerous spec ops guys.

A lot of them think that the military is going to revolt and join up with them en mass once they see how "brave" and "patriotic" the militia is. The obvious flaw in this idea is that those who join the military have taken oaths of loyalty that they take pretty damn seriously and are not about to throw away to crown some obese redneck dictator for life.

 

[Clown Doll]

The obvious flaw in this idea is that those who join the military have taken oaths of loyalty that they take pretty damn seriously and are not about to throw away to crown some obese redneck dictator for life.

I can't fault the militia people for thinking that they'd have some of the military on their side, considering that especially in the South there's sometimes political rhetoric of seceding from the Union (mostly posturing, but it shows signs of division) and a lot of podunk towns are openly hostile towards the Federal government. In the case that the U.S Federal government would do something to get these guys mobilized and ready to kill, they would likely have sympathizers in the local police forces, National Guard and so on. Not to mention riots within the civilian populace. This would be of course, in the scenario that Obama went full Hitler like these people believe.

That "Oath of Loyalty" takes a whole different meaning if it's going to force you to gun down someone you might possibly know. This is why during the Arab spring some of the Gulf countries(think UAE(?)) sent troops to a neighbouring country to suppress the revolts because the troops were less hesitant to brutalize people who weren't people from their own country(plus they were Shias, so they were even easier to dehumanize).

 

[Zim]

A lot of them think that the military is going to revolt and join up with them en mass once they see how "brave" and "patriotic" the militia is. The obvious flaw in this idea is that those who join the military have taken oaths of loyalty that they take pretty damn seriously and are not about to throw away to crown some obese redneck dictator for life.

Most people in the military consider militias as a group of wanabes who failed MEPS. They're sort of at the same level as stolen valor guys because a lot of them are stolen valor guys. I don't remember them even being talked about in any official capacity and assume if they did try anything they'd either get taken down by SWAT or be handled like any other domestic terrorist.

At any rate what militias want is for the government to start shooting first. If they attacked first then they'd lose their "we are freedom fighters protecting our homes" image.

 

[Morbid Boredom]

The Oregon guys are blowing shofars to sound the call for true patriots.

The only people watching these idiots now are the lowest of internet bloggers -Gawker. They're done, time to pack up and go home.

 

[TowinKarz]

At any rate what militias want is for the government to start shooting first. If they attacked first then they'd lose their "we are freedom fighters protecting our homes" image.

In the wake of the Waco fiasco, the Feds have pretty much realized that as annoying as these folk are, they don't have the patience to wait for that first shot. If you just wait them out and let them bluster and posture, when the popular uprising they expect to carry them to victory doesn't happen, the will to man the crenels on the wall fades and they either go home or surrender.

The Montana Freeman incident in the late 90's resolved itself when the FBI simply set up a perimeter, didn't let anyone in or out, and the Twoo Patriots (tm) eventually peacefully surrendered when they ran out of groceries. One event admitted that he gave up when he ran out of smokes.

 

[Sailor Haumea]

The great-granddaddy of all the Militia groups was the "Minutemen" organization of the 1960s, which started to come apart when their members started robbing banks and blowing up pacifist encampments.

I've actually interacted with a member of the Minutemen on Facebook before, unfortunately. He was claiming that they helped James Earl Ray kill Martin Luther King Jr.

Cannot for the life of me remember the member's name.

 

[DavidFerrie]

I've actually interacted with a member of the Minutemen on Facebook before, unfortunately. He was claiming that they helped James Earl Ray kill Martin Luther King Jr.

Cannot for the life of me remember the member's name.

Was it Robert Taylor? He's about the most famous ex-member alive. Became a leader in the organization when he was still in his teens, and these days is a noted "Neo-Folk" musician and artist. Very interesting guy; I hear he's writing a memoir about his wild life from Chicago street-gang dude, to paramilitary-Right radical, to hippie, to elder statesman of Goth/Neo-Tribal culture.