Mortal Kombat Thread - GET OVER HERE!!!

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Best Ninja?

  • Yellow Ninja

    Votes: 76 17.6%
  • Blue Ninja

    Votes: 58 13.4%
  • Green Ninja

    Votes: 22 5.1%
  • Purple Ninja

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • Red Ninja

    Votes: 10 2.3%
  • Smoky Ninja

    Votes: 28 6.5%
  • Robot Ninja

    Votes: 13 3.0%
  • Boobie Ninja

    Votes: 98 22.6%
  • Ninja But Not A Ninja

    Votes: 16 3.7%
  • Kurtis Stryker

    Votes: 103 23.8%

  • Total voters
    433
It's not even about MK anymore. It's whatever flavor of the month bullshit and member berries nostalgia bait.

One that makes no sense to be here. He isnt an anti-hero and not even a 80's icon (more akin to a 90's one) and he doesnt even fucking bleed.

If anything, nearly nothing outside of intense fire, ice, eletricity and acid could kill the T-1000. Hell, most fatalities wouldnt kill it as its nanobots would mostly remain intact.

It just wasnt a good pick in my opinion. It would have been best to have maybe a T-1000 inspired original character if they really wanted a "gooey" shapeshifter type.
They specifically chose him because it worked in the last game which is how i see it. Since people liked the Terminator so why not do it again right? Even if it makes literally no sense but that is the case with Homelander, Omni Man or Ghost Face. The first two could solo pretty much most if not the whole current MK verse (The current one seems so nerfed compared to the previous ones) and Ghost Face is just a guy with a knife.
When you put it that way, I think MK1's guest theme really was "leftovers"

Ghostface fit better in MKX, here he is
T-1000 fit better in MK11, here he is
Conan fit better in MK11, here he is

and here is some characters that should have been in the vanilla game or whatever

Really uninspired all around
Here in current MK the timeline is erased or rebooted every other week because everything needs to be multiverse but nobody actually understands how multiverses work. But we already been went over that several times with MK lol but you're right. Ghost Face realistically shouldn't have any chance here since pretty much all the main non-guest fighters have some supernatural bullshit they can do to keep up with the others that are either cyborg ninjas or some sort of magic users (Didn't Johnny Cage get retconned into having some supernatural powers because before he was just a guy who did his own stunts).
 
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They specifically chose him because it worked in the last game which is how i see it. Since people liked the Terminator so why not do it again right? Even if it makes literally no sense but that is the case with Homelander, Omni Man or Ghost Face. The first two could solo pretty much most if not the whole current MK verse (The current one seems so nerfed compared to the previous ones) and Ghost Face is just a guy with a knife.

When you put it that way, I think MK1's guest theme really was "leftovers"

Ghostface fit better in MKX, here he is
T-1000 fit better in MK11, here he is
Conan fit better in MK11, here he is

and here is some characters that should have been in the vanilla game or whatever

Really uninspired all around
 
All the creative writing going on makes me wonder. What are this thread's thoughts on The4thSnake?

Only opinion on him on the farms is from 2018.
He's inoffensive. His take on nu-Cyrax and Sektor, played by Erika Ishii the pansexual bisexual they/them with the most horrifying smile known to man, annoyed me since he was kinda fence sitting about it.

Speaking of Ishii, I am fascinated by this lady.
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Is she allergic to having a normal hairstyle? She has to be part of some asexual alien species that can only reproduce by kidnapping humans and laying eggs in their digestive systems.

This bitch can not be normal. Those teeth are unfortunate too.

Also...
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Ew. Heaven forbid you wear a decent outfit. Ma'am, you're 38.
Downright fucking embarrassing.
Huh? Do they honestly think people would be hyped for this? What hurt them from adding Bo Rai Cho?

Jeez this really is turning into Girlboss Kombat.
 
Didn't Johnny Cage get retconned into having some supernatural powers because before he was just a guy who did his own stunts
Johnny has always been weird. He was "just a dude who did his own stunts" but had his weird after image attacks and the orb. Those are some good practical effects, Johhny-boy. I think Stryker is the only truly normal human in the series with no gimmicks or powers.
 
Johnny has always been weird. He was "just a dude who did his own stunts" but had his weird after image attacks and the orb. Those are some good practical effects, Johhny-boy. I think Stryker is the only truly normal human in the series with no gimmicks or powers.
Even compared to Sonya who soon got a whole arsenal of nonsense. Stryker has been consistently the guy with a gun.
 
Even compared to Sonya who soon got a whole arsenal of nonsense. Stryker has been consistently the guy with a gun.
Realistically a dude with a gun could defeat most of the MKverse 1v1 (same as irl). I don't know who makes the rules for these tournaments. Some people are unarmed, a few get a sword or something, then there's this guy with a pistol and grenades.
 
Realistically a dude with a gun could defeat most of the MKverse 1v1 (same as irl). I don't know who makes the rules for these tournaments. Some people are unarmed, a few get a sword or something, then there's this guy with a pistol and grenades.
(daul posting) even before he was thrown out of the main cast most of them were ninja dudes with special powers that can be hurt by sharp weapons so yeah i agree that a gun would be able to end most of those battle quickly. I always thought the rules didn't really matter due to the Elder Gods or whoever not caring.
 
I had a thought, because I just cant help but try to "improve" MK's lore since it must be the only fighting game that has a lore that actually keeps me engaged. Either way...

The gap between MK Armageddon and 9 always bothered me because I legit cared about Taven's quest and to have it all supposedly retconned away just felt like the first sign of the sort of writing we were in for with NRS. And the worst part is that you could have had the same outcome but that respected the MKA ending.

Except make Taven the one to do the time message whatever.

The way I envisioned was having Taven be the only survivor, with him at the top and seeing the death and destruction caused by the battle as he desired that there was a way to prevent this. However, from out of nowhere, Dark Raiden arrives, injured but clearly very much determined to come out ontop.

"The power of blaze, Taven...hand it to me. I must save Earthrealm with it."
"Im sorry I couldnt prevent what happened to you, to my brother, to everyone..."
"To the neitherrealm with your apologies. And soon, all the other realms shall join you!"

They fight and Dark Raiden clearly is losing hard, akin to MK9's opening, but instead of Shao Kahn, its Taven lamenting that it all came to this. But Dark Raiden keeps getting up, looking weakened each time.

"I dont want to kill you, thunder god. Enough blood has been spilled for a thousand years."
"Im afraid...the only way...to stop me...is to destroy me. For I will never rest until Earthrealm is secured."
"I wish things could have been different, Raiden..."

Taven would look at the field of bodies at the feet of the pyramid and determinates that, with the power of blaze, he has enough power to perhaps make things different indeed.

"And perhaps they can be different."

He prepares some sort of energy on his hands and Raiden reacts by blasting him with lightening. Taven blocks with his energized hands and slowly walks to Raiden while claiming

"I cannot foresee what will be but I can see what was! And with this power, so will you, Raiden!"

He gets close enough to grab Raiden's head

"Things wont be perfect, they never are but they shall be different. Remember these words, Raiden, for it is now YOUR quest to prevent armageddon!"

"Trust the Elder Gods"

The visions would be sent to MK Raiden which would lead to the events of MK9 without altering things too much. It would also help to justify the "I must consult with the elder gods" meme as Raiden literally was told this was possibly the key to stopping armageddon. Eventually the elder gods do save the day.


Also, some might ask, "why Taven didnt try sending a message further away, maybe to try to save his brother or parents". I think it comes down to two things

1- Taven has no experience in using this sort of power, a forbidden one I imagine. He was very powerful as the power of blaze made him rival Elder Gods but his experience with them was practically zero.
2- Its a selfless act from him as, in a way, he knows this is bigger than him, his family and their affairs. If the consequences are that he shall remain forever dormant, so be it. He is sacrificing his family and himself indirectly.

So yeah, this allows a more natural transition between MKA and MK9 without some devil ex-machina where Shao Kahn is absurdly retconned the winner even tho it makes no sense as Kahn would be killed by Onaga or be too injured to survive the other kombatants, assuming he would trek all the way back to the pyramid after killing or escaping Onaga somehow.

Pay me now, NRS.

Edit: In retrospect, I might also add that the match with Dark Raiden could serve as a tutorial fight as D.R's damage output would be so low that him defeating the player would be impossible so the player is motivated to test the gameplay on him like a punching bag. The twist would be that Taven could be a secret playable character akin to Cyber Sub-Zero in MKX as we only control him in this tutorial and obviously very empowered (the playable version might be as OP or maybe not for balance, the former would def. not be allowed in online matches or tournaments for basic balance).



My autistic mind cant help but constantly think that most of them wouldnt kill the T-1000. They really didnt put much thought into it.

Also, idk why, I kind of hate seeing the T-1000 talking soo much.


Maybe its the fact that the T-1000 never really spoke much while we do have the T-800 talking quite a lot post Terminator 1, so seeing the former speak just feels off to me. Also the T-800 had the advantage of being played by Arnie so we kind of want to hear his thick accent and even MK11 knew to keep his interactions very short and to the point, a lot of blunt dry answers like "No", "To terminate you" and etc.
Is she allergic to having a normal hairstyle? She has to be part of some asexual alien species that can only reproduce by kidnapping humans and laying eggs in their digestive systems.

This bitch can not be normal. Those teeth are unfortunate too.

This is usually the result of two things

1- She had a traumatizing childhood
2- She had a rich spoiled childhood

Either way, both will fuck up the person one way or the other
Realistically a dude with a gun could defeat most of the MKverse 1v1 (same as irl). I don't know who makes the rules for these tournaments. Some people are unarmed, a few get a sword or something, then there's this guy with a pistol and grenades.

Mortal kombat barely seems to have any rules. The first game at least implied chickening out was against the rules (in MK9, you see the guards at the ready to stab at anyone trying to flee the arena) but outside of that, anything goes. Once "FIGHT" goes off, all that matters is that someone will need to be either dead or knocked out very soon.

The intros in the first MK almost seemed to imply that the tournament had more rules and integrity before Shang Tsung took over and Im not sure how much canon that is anymore.
 
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Except make Taven the one to do the time message whatever.

The way I envisioned was either having Taven be the only survivor, with him at the top and seeing the death and destruction caused by the battle as he desired that there was a way to prevent this. However, from out of nowhere, Dark Raiden arrives, injured but clearly very much determined to come out ontop.
Also, some might ask, "why Taven didnt try sending a message further away, maybe to try to save his brother or parents". I think it comes down to two things

1- Taven has no experience in using this sort of power, a forbidden one I imagine. He was very powerful as the power of blaze made him rival Elder Gods but his experience with them was practically zero.
2- Its a selfless act from him as, in a way, he knows this is bigger than him, his family and their affairs. If the consequences are that he shall remain forever dormant, so be it. He is sacrificing his family and himself indirectly.

So yeah, this allows a more natural transition between MKA and MK9 without some devil ex-machina where Shao Kahn is absurdly retconned the winner even tho it makes no sense as Kahn would be killed by Onaga or be too injured to survive the other kombatants, assuming he would trek all the way back to the pyramid after killing or escaping Onaga somehow.
.... in one fell swoop you make Armageddon as a whole feel far more logical both as a story and gameplay-wise:

1) Shao should logically be dead as you noted. As one of the few characters we see actually doing stuff in the intro, being heaved away by Onaga to be killed certainly would've made more sense than him magically reappearing to conveniently win.
2) MKA's Konquest mode suddenly can be kept in its entirety including Taven learning about "Armageddon" from his initial defeat of Blaze at the end of it... then he wins again in the main bout and accidentally powers-up everyone in his ending, causing the ACTUAL Armageddon battle where everyone's now strong enough to kill each other. Which can add an extra layer to your thought on his sacrifice being selfless. Bad enough he lost his family, but being the one responsible for all these heroes' deaths? He definitely isn't the type to stand for that.

Hell, remember the abandoned sub-plot in Kenshi and Takeda's MKX endings where Dark Raiden sends them to find Taven and defeat Daegon to prevent the NRS timeline's Armageddon? Now that makes even MORE sense with your idea, abandoned or not (shit, maybe it still happened and we just didn't get to learn more in MK11 with none of them around, it didn't contradict anything there lmao).

EDIT: In pure autism I have looked up the exact lines in MK9's intro to whip up a little script using Handsome Tard's idea that matches syllable-to-syllable to the actual lines in MK9: both to keep it direct and to the point, and to also ensure it's true to the usually wonderfully cheesy dialogue MK's known for:

[MK9 intro as we first see it to the battle between Raiden and Shao Kahn. That's a lotta corpses. Raiden's just been knocked back, but instead of Shao it's.... Taven?]

TAVEN [radiating with Blaze's power, a look of sorrow on his face, walking forward to the knocked-back Raiden]: Raiden… I’m sorry for this. [Where are the Elder Gods, Raiden?]

[effortlessly absorbs a lightning blast from Raiden] I didn’t know Blaze’s power would surge through me… spread and corrupt everyone. [Their pathetic Mortal Kombat shackles me no longer.]

[Raiden gets up and attacks Taven with a flurry of easily parried attacks] Was it from the Dragon King’s priests corrupting him…? [They masquerade as dragons but are mere toothless worms]

[suddenly grabs Raiden and throws him a la the MK9 intro] And in this rage they all fought to destruction…Armageddon. [My venom spreads. It is the end of all things. Armageddon.]

RAIDEN [in a mixture of rage and his own sorrow]: NO MORE….! [STOOOP…!]

TAVEN [an idea forms, his face suddenly reflective]: …yes. No more. [Hahahaha, yes…]

[comes up to Raiden, who has scooped up his time amulet, finally spiritually defeated] Send these words to then, Raiden. [Pray to the worms, Raiden.]

[he places his fingertips to Raiden's forehead] To restore the realms. [As your world ends.]

[Taven shouts his message, as Raiden looks upward with his eyes turning back to blue, his normal self restored] “TRUST THE ELDER GODS!” (HE MUST WIN!)

(Didn't Johnny Cage get retconned into having some supernatural powers because before he was just a guy who did his own stunts).
Johnny has always been weird. He was "just a dude who did his own stunts" but had his weird after image attacks and the orb. Those are some good practical effects, Johhny-boy. I think Stryker is the only truly normal human in the series with no gimmicks or powers.
Even compared to Sonya who soon got a whole arsenal of nonsense. Stryker has been consistently the guy with a gun.
MK9 retconned Cage into being a descendant of a "Mediterranean cult that bred fighters able to combat gods" to explain his shadow/green energy powers at least. Cage was just dumb enough to think he was super-speshul and merely used it to advance his own movie career. Which is... actually a pretty realistic idea to use powers like that for personal gain, so I can't blame him when I think on it.

I just pretend Earthrealmers have the potential for magic powers like their equivalents on other realms, but conveniently lost the conscious connection over the centuries (and knowledge, even) until any dormant powers they have are awakened by contact with otherworldly forces and magic - such as the mysterious island Shang Tsung holds the MK tournament on, or traveling to Outworld in MK2, or some-such. Groups that normally act behind the scenes like the Shaolin or Lin Kuei obviously have contact with other realms or gods to explain why they use them from the get-go, while Cage is a special exception as a would-be normie due to his ancestors' eugenics program kicking in.
 
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This is two days late, but they added Raiden, Scorpion, and Kitana to Fortnite and Kitana looks far better than she does in MK1.
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Doublepost, but I now remember I have pictures of what negress Raxx looks like without the armor.
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Comparing her to Nigger Tanya:
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May the Elder Gods bless you without the need to consult them.

Tanya's design peaked with MKX

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Girl's got me acting unwise, but a good look at MK1's design does snap me out of it like a big bucket of cold water.

MKX- Oh mama
MK1- ugh, hi mama...

Also I still dont get the idea behind gender bending Sektor and Cyrax. Here is a word of advice, rule 63-ing characters isnt enough to make a character fresh and it doesnt help that this feels 10 years too late because the whole "changing the dude to a chick" thing has become old even for leftists.
.... in one fell swoop you make Armageddon as a whole feel far more logical both as a story and gameplay-wise:

1) Shao should logically be dead as you noted. As one of the few characters we see actually doing stuff in the intro, being heaved away by Onaga to be killed certainly would've made more sense than him magically reappearing to conveniently win.
2) MKA's Konquest mode suddenly can be kept in its entirety including Taven learning about "Armageddon" from his initial defeat of Blaze at the end of it... then he wins again in the main bout and accidentally powers-up everyone in his ending, causing the ACTUAL Armageddon battle where everyone's now strong enough to kill each other. Which can add an extra layer to your thought on his sacrifice being selfless. Bad enough he lost his family, but being the one responsible for all these heroes' deaths? He definitely isn't the type to stand for that.

Hell, remember the abandoned sub-plot in Kenshi and Takeda's MKX endings where Dark Raiden sends them to find Taven and defeat Daegon to prevent the NRS timeline's Armageddon? Now that makes even MORE sense with your idea, abandoned or not (shit, maybe it still happened and we just didn't get to learn more in MK11 with none of them around, it didn't contradict anything there lmao).

EDIT: In pure autism I have looked up the exact lines in MK9's intro to whip up a little script using Handsome Tard's idea that matches syllable-to-syllable to the actual lines in MK9: both to keep it direct and to the point, and to also ensure it's true to the usually wonderfully cheesy dialogue MK's known for:

(sorry for the late reply)

Yeah, I have no issue necessarily with the soft reboot MK9 did, honestly it was the direction Midway wanted to go with anyway but I just felt that Blaze powered Taven would the best explanation for it as he should have the OP powers at this point to literally be able to send messages through time and space in an effort to prevent Armaggedon. I can understand the idea with making Shao Kahn and not forcing people to know who Taven is and all but uhhh, dont you think that people that are coming into MK9 as a starting point wont be already confused with MK9's opening as is with all the dead kombatants? They even show some 3D era ones (that arent as known as the classic ones, even less back at MK9 days) so it begs the question as to why you are showing these things that mean something to veterans but wouldnt mean much to newcomers?

In the end, we had a bizarre middle child and Midway's MKs always seemed to have a fair amount of trust in their players with being able to keep up with their lore (and even then, each game does have enough info to bring newcomers up to speed somewhat) so it was weird to see them not being to go one way or the other.

If they wanted a more newcomer friendly version, they shouldnt even show the aftermath and just have maybe Raiden narrating something like

"As it was , with each battle, each fatal strike, be it righteous or evil, we marched further towards the jaws of armageddon. Each drop of blood, torn viscera, bone broken, alliances forged and destroyed...all led to this. In the end, there was no good, no evil, just Kombat and the bodies of the fallen as the signature of the end. God, mortal, sourcerer, hellspawn, it mattered not as all were dragged into the abyss of oblivion."

And we get 2D stylized shadow art of the events of MK to MKA.

"All safeguards, failed. All hope, lost. All victories, void. All prayers, unanswered. in the end, only I remain to close the final chapter within this tale. My lightening fades as I can feel the chill of death creeping up my spine, my time grows short. But perhaps, with this dying flicker of light, I might still be able to prevent this, to find redemption, not here, not now but at the beginning of it all. Hear my words, Raiden, for the duty of preventing the death of us all now falls onto you..."

That way, newcomers arent exposed to things only veterans will recognize and they will know that all the events, independent of how and why, led to this and it must be prevented.
I just pretend Earthrealmers have the potential for magic powers like their equivalents on other realms, but conveniently lost the conscious connection over the centuries (and knowledge, even) until any dormant powers they have are awakened by contact with otherworldly forces and magic - such as the mysterious island Shang Tsung holds the MK tournament on, or traveling to Outworld in MK2, or some-such. Groups that normally act behind the scenes like the Shaolin or Lin Kuei obviously have contact with other realms or gods to explain why they use them from the get-go, while Cage is a special exception as a would-be normie due to his ancestors' eugenics program kicking in.

Always assumed that all mortals have the potential but most either dont know or dont care for things like magic. Jax could learn to throw fire but why would he when he can just mod his metal arms to do so? Magic can also be rather impractical and I can imagine it takes way too long for you to be able to not only learn how to use it but use it efficiently in kombat (to the point most earthrealmers dont bother and go for something faster and more practical, even if less flashy). Edenians live for a stupidly long time so most of they are able to learn how to use magic (nvm that they are literally a demigod like race so they are genetically even more capable), hence why almost all of them use it one way or the other.

MK always had this unique constrast between the super natural and science fiction stuff that worked as both are able to hold their ground, magic is powerful but hey, so is a fucking gun or wrist device energy blast and in the end, as long you come out ontop, does it matter what tools you are using?

And I dont mind Cage being special in that departament, just wished they expanded on it so him coming out ontop against Shinnok doesnt feel like an ass pull but some sort of ancient plan coming together as Cage's bloodline would be a preventive measure against a rogue elder god. Again, it all comes down to MKX's ideas being pretty good but needing the correct build up and explanation instead of just saying "just because".
 
He's inoffensive. His take on nu-Cyrax and Sektor, played by Erika Ishii the pansexual bisexual they/them with the most horrifying smile known to man, annoyed me since he was kinda fence sitting about it.

Speaking of Ishii, I am fascinated by this lady.
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Is she allergic to having a normal hairstyle? She has to be part of some asexual alien species that can only reproduce by kidnapping humans and laying eggs in their digestive systems.

This bitch can not be normal. Those teeth are unfortunate too.

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Ew. Heaven forbid you wear a decent outfit. Ma'am, you're 38.

Huh? Do they honestly think people would be hyped for this? What hurt them from adding Bo Rai Cho?

Jeez this really is turning into Girlboss Kombat.

Why do these people have to have their mouth open? Take a normal fucking picture.
 
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