UN MtF Transgender Player Joins Women-Only Team, Sets Records, And Is Now Being Protested - And it isn't the first time this has happened...

https://volleymob.com/superliga-rivals-protest-tifannys-participation-after-setting-records/

A MtF transgender player has joined a female-exclusive volleyball team and is breaking once-steadfast records held by natural female players almost immediately. This player has played at a professional level on male-only teams before transitioning.

Choice quotes from this and related articles:

At 32 years old and 6’5″ in height, her debut for Italian A2 club Golem Palmi against Delta Trentino last season saw her came off the bench to secure her team’s come back from behind win with 28 points.

Tifanny’s case grabs attention also due to the fact that she has competed in the male version of Brazilian Superliga, and also played professionally in men’s leagues in Portugal, Indonesia, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands and France.

[From a fellow teammate]

[...]On a sporting level, her physical parameters are not those of a woman. I had the luck of playing in the A1 league last year, and did not see many players that can jump and attack at the level she does.

Bruno has also leaked one of Tifanny’s testosterone level exams, showing that the player is within regulations decided by the IOC:

(I can't translate the language exactly, but for reference, the standard testosterone levels are around 280-1,100 ng/DL for males and 15-70 for females. This is a flawed metric anyways--testosterone often causes irreversible changes to physiology, so a lack of testosterone after the fact your development has been affected by it means nothing.)

This isn't the first time that such an event has happened, with a MtF transgender cyclist suddenly breaking long-unbeaten world records in cycling when swapping over to the women-only division, or this video demonstrating a MtF transgender MMA fighter immediately defeating their naturally female opponent.

Male-exclusive divisions and female-exclusive divisions obviously do not overlap due to the physical differences between the sexes. A cursory look at the held records for something such as weight lifting shows a large difference between male and female scores. Providing evidence to demonstrate this, female-exclusive adult soccer teams have been documented playing against under-15 boys teams for practice and losing.

There is increasingly mounting evidence to conclude that, despite what your position on transgenderism may be, allowing transgender players to play on female teams is creating an unfair competitive environment for naturally female competitors.

 

[Y2K Baby]

Men are better than stinky girls at everything. More at 11.

 

[RG 448]

As focused as transgender folks are on the difference between gender and sex (and they’re right), they don’t take kindly to the idea that men and women sports divisions are based more on biology, right?

 

[sperginity]

And people still claim women can play sports at the level of men.

From what I understand women dominate a few things, ski high jumping and some endurance sports because of physiological advantages inherent to women. I am also sure males would fail at women's gymnastics, rythmic gymnastics, being the partner that gets thrown in figure skating, etc. Sports are designed to advantage different skills and physiques, most sports are about strength and speed so dudes have the natural advantage in the majority of sports. BTW, they don't allow women to compete in ski high jumping at the Olympics and won't explain why. http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1963484_1963490_1963447,00.html

But anyway, I look forward to the majority of Olympic sports being dominated by troons, normal people are gonna wise up about how fucked up this is.

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

I suck at Where's Waldo, but did just fine in playing Spot the Tranny below.

Spoiler: size

Especially the Roller Derby Gal, who looks like "she" is 8 feet tall or so.

edit: Images spotted at /r/gendercritical, of all places.

 

[Zaragoza]

I'll add this to my original post, but you are correct. Testosterone causes irreversible changes to physiology. This is (partially) reflected in how MtF people rarely pass as female yet FtM often pass as just somewhat feminine men, although there are alternative explanations which compound this. Furthermore, if you want even more evidence supporting this, fetuses only display male characteristics when testosterone is introduced into the body. Otherwise the body "defaults" to expressing or developing female characteristics, even with the removal of female (or male) gonads.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter how much testosterone a MtF player has now, it's the fact that their development has been affected by it at some point. If we're currently using just (and only just) the current testosterone levels of a player to determine if they can play in a female division, I would even suspect foul play, since that's almost an intentionally dubious metric to use. It's way too convenient for the transgender player in question.

I would pay top dollar to see FTM fighters in the same ring with men.

 

[RG 448]

It’s also hilarious how we’re coming full-circle back to women being second-class citizens and nobody’s doing anything about it.

 

[ICametoLurk]

we’re coming full-circle back to women being second-class citizens and nobody’s doing anything about it.

good

 

[Viridian]

Not entirely sure why the current testosterone level of the troon would make any difference. It's the fact that they've had years of massively higher levels than women and have the body strength to prove it that makes the difference. Which is why, typically, FtM trans people don't end up competing with such fanfare the other way around (if at all). But yeah. Totally a woman. Fuck's sake.

Here's to all the record books and sjws squealing about how awesome it is that women are making huge leaps in athletic performance - the fact that they're men on titty skittles won't be mentioned, of course, nor will the women whose opportunities were scuppered because the man got their places on the 'womens' team instead.

I think the reason they test for that is to make sure the athletes in question have actually gone through the gender change process (surgery, hormone therapy, etc.), and aren't just transtrenders or men who can't meet the standards of male sports teams claiming they're women so they can get a job there. I agree it's pretty stupid though, considering these are all grown adults we're talking about here. The physiological changes brought on by puberty and hormones are long since done.

 

[RG 448]

good

Someone somewhere on tumblr is going to read that post and realize his community has more in common with ours than he/she realized.

 

[BF 388]

If they could actually make the cut. There’s a reason gender specific leagues exist.

Well, technically MtF troons have made the cut.

 

[sperginity]

I would pay top dollar to see FTM fighters in the same ring with men.

Their long bones (upper arm, thigh) are still shorter, shoulders still narrower, hands smaller, etc. You exert less force. Maybe one that got puberty blocked would have those features masculinize, but it's not proven. Jazz Jennings skeletal features are not feminized. It might work differently with testosterone but maybe not.

 

[frozenrunner]

It’s also hilarious how we’re coming full-circle back to women being second-class citizens and nobody’s doing anything about it.

The funniest part? They're pretty much doing it to themselves. "Social justice" is a primarily feminine/feminized movement.

I wish all the sane women would band together and explicitly tell these nuts to fuck off.

 

[Ineedahero]

I'll add this to my original post, but you are correct. Testosterone causes irreversible changes to physiology. This is (partially) reflected in how MtF people rarely pass as female yet FtM often pass as just somewhat feminine men, although there are alternative explanations which compound this. Furthermore, if you want even more evidence supporting this, fetuses only display male characteristics when testosterone is introduced into the body. Otherwise the body "defaults" to expressing or developing female characteristics, even with the removal of female (or male) gonads.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter how much testosterone a MtF player has now, it's the fact that their development has been affected by it at some point. If we're currently using just (and only just) the current testosterone levels of a player to determine if they can play in a female division, I would even suspect foul play, since that's almost an intentionally dubious metric to use. It's way too convenient for the transgender player in question.

So if I had access to a number of small baby girls, and I constantly injected them with testosterone, could I, in time, create a team of female soccer players who didn't have to be trannies to beat school boys?

 

[sperginity]

I think the reason they test for that is to make sure the athletes in question have actually gone through the gender change process (surgery, hormone therapy, etc.), and aren't just transtrenders or men who can't meet the standards of male sports teams claiming they're women so they can get a job there. I agree it's pretty stupid though, considering these are all grown adults we're talking about here. The physiological changes brought on by puberty and hormones are long since done.

One last sperg before I shut up-the ioc acceptable levels of t are still way higher than the norm for females, and females W elevated t from endocrine disorders still get disqualified for levels lower than the accepted cut off for trans women.

 

[Jaiman]

lmao sports fans

 

[Video Games]

>implying FtM trans people exist

I kid, of course, but do they actually let trans men participate in male events? This is a genuine question.

http://people.com/sports/transgender-harvard-swimmer-schuyler-bailar-breaks-boundaries/

This is the only case I've heard of. As she says, she's struggling for 16th place now, when she was competing with the best in the women's league. She says she's happy with her choice, but this has got to be a serious blow to her delusional confidence in her "manhood."

 

[LazloChalos]

Up next, the world applauds the rise of African-Americans across all employement fields after WTB (White to Black) transitioning individuals become legally recognized as blacks.

 

[Fleshy Sanik]

Fuck it, just remove womens sport all together and atleast alow us to die with dignity rather than this bullshit...

 

[The Lizard Queen]

Rather than fight the SJWs, they'll probably eventually take the easy way out, and dissolve all gendered leagues and do everything by weight class like wrestling.

 

[OwO What's This?]

{men make better women joke #147}