Multiple nations enact mysterious export controls on quantum computers - Identical wording placing limits on the export of quantum computers has appeared in regulations across the globe. There doesn't seem to be any scientific reason for the controls, and all can be traced to secret international discussions


Secret international discussions have resulted in governments across the world imposing identical export controls on quantum computers, while refusing to disclose the scientific rationale behind the regulations. Although quantum computers theoretically have the potential to threaten national security by breaking encryption techniques, even the most advanced quantum computers currently in public existence are too small and too error-prone to achieve this, rendering the bans seemingly pointless.

The UK is one of the countries that has prohibited the export of quantum computers with 34 or more quantum bits, or qubits, and error rates below a certain threshold. The intention seems to be to restrict machines of a certain capability, but the UK government hasn’t explicitly said this. A New Scientist freedom of information request for a rationale behind these numbers was turned down on the grounds of national security.

France has also introduced export controls with the same specifications on qubit numbers and error rates, as has Spain and the Netherlands. Identical limits across European states might point to a European Union regulation, but that isn’t the case. A European Commission spokesperson told New Scientist that EU members are free to adopt national measures, rather than bloc-wide ones, for export restrictions. “Recent controls on quantum computers by Spain and France are examples of such national measures,” they said. They declined to explain why the figures in various EU export bans matched exactly, if these decisions had been reached independently.

A spokesperson for the French Embassy in London told New Scientist that the limit was set at a level “likely to represent a cyber risk”. They said that the controls were the same in France, the UK, the Netherlands and Spain because of “multilateral negotiations conducted over several years under the Wassenaar Arrangement”.

“The limits chosen are based on scientific analyses of the performance of quantum computers,” the spokesperson told New Scientist. But when asked for clarification on who performed the analysis or whether it would be publicly released, the spokesperson declined to comment further.

The Wassenaar Arrangement is a system adhered to by 42 participating states, including EU members, the UK, the US, Canada, Russia, Australia, New Zealand and Switzerland, that sets controls on the export of goods that could have military applications, known as dual-use technologies. Canada has also implemented identical wording on 34 qubits into a quantum computer export ban.

New Scientist wrote to dozens of Wassenaar states asking about the existence of research on the level of quantum computer that would be dangerous to export, whether that research has been published and who carried it out. Only a few responded.

“We are closely observing the introduction of national controls by other states for certain technologies,” says a spokesperson for the Swiss Federal Department of Economic Affairs, Education and Research. “However, existing mechanisms can already be used to prevent in specific cases exports of such technologies.”

“We are obviously closely following Wassenaar discussions on the exact technical control parameters relating to quantum,” says Milan Godin, a Belgium adviser to the EU’s Working Party on Dual-Use Goods. Belgium doesn’t appear to have implemented its own export restrictions yet, but Godin says that quantum computers are a dual-use technology due to their potential to crack commercial or government encryption, as well as the possibility that their speed will eventually allow militaries to make faster and better plans – including in relation to nuclear missile strikes.

A spokesperson for the German Federal Office for Economic Affairs and Export Control confirmed that quantum computer export controls would be the result of negotiations under the Wassenaar Arrangement, although Germany also doesn’t appear to have implemented any restrictions. “These negotiations are confidential, unfortunately we cannot share any details or information about the considerations of this control,” says the spokesperson.

Christopher Monroe, who co-founded quantum computer company IonQ, says people in the industry have noticed the identical bans and have been discussing their criteria, but he has no information on where they have come from.

“I have no idea who determined the logic behind these numbers,” he says, but it may have something to do with the threshold for simulating a quantum computer on an ordinary computer. This becomes exponentially harder as the number of qubits rises, so Monroe believes that the rationale behind the ban could be to restrict quantum computers that are now too advanced to be simulated, even though such devices have no practical applications.

“The fallacy there is that just because you cannot simulate what the quantum computer is doing doesn’t make it useful. And by severely limiting research to progress in this grey area, it will surely stifle innovation,” he says.
 
I mean if you've been online for the past 15 years it's likely ONE of your passwords is in a database. Don't use the same password twice I say. Of course I am guilty as charged... I guess I care little for opsec.
It takes a few hours to set up a password manager and go through and change all your important accounts, but once you've done that front-loaded work, dealing with passwords becomes so easy and convenient. I did it several years ago and am so glad I did.
 
I'm really starting to think there's already a shadow quantum arms race going on right over our heads - as in, this shit is already out there and being used by governments. There's even been a push towards quantum resistant encryption for security purposes for internet infrastructure, so I'm really thinking that QC technology is far more advanced than what we are being told.
 
Pretty sure Quantum Computers don't exist yet and it's just fear mongering.
They do but we are just before early 60's level of microprocessors level of availability an access to them and we are about a decade or so of them being available to hobbyists, the British Royal Navy has been playing with this sort of stuff for a long time and have Quantum navigation systems and the USN is still trying to get it's brain around it but we shared it equally - and there is some other stuff our scientists have been fucking with as well especially about communications thats just baffling.
 
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Pretty sure Quantum Computers don't exist yet and it's just fear mongering.
aren't quantum computers a load of hot air? Like nuclear fusion?
They exist and are very powerful.

A few years back, a bunch of countries (Aus,UK,Russia,US (IBM), and a few others) decided to build a quantum computer. To stop any one country having better tech than the rest, they split the computer into parts; Software, Hardware, QBIT engine, etc, then they would come together and fit the pieces to make one machine on neutral ground.

There was a big problem though; in order to keep this super computer doing its thang, it needed to be super cold, well into the -40 degree range. There are a few places on Earth this cold, but none are neutral, except...Antarctica.

So a few years ago, all of the worlds leaders went for a jolly down to Antarctica; one of the most remote, barron and inhospital places on Earth. The leaders lived in tin-sheds with few, if any luxuries. Trump and Putin were among the team, remember?

Well, the rumour is that they were all watching and witnessing the power of the QC supercomputer to see what it could do. It could; crack Fort Knox, NASA and Pentagon encryptions in seconds. It access, and launch, any and all nuclear weapons from any silo, from anywhere in the world. That's not a tool that any leader wants any other leader to have, and learning the lessons of the nuclear arms race, decided not to build any more or take it home. Right now, the QC supercomputer has no access to any internet and is housed in Antarctica for very good security reasons.
 
And some religious leaders as well. John Kerry too. That was a weird trip, I remember it being weird at the time
Very weird for such high-powered people to fly into a freezer, with little to no security, landing on a runway made of ice, all at the same time.
I doubt fancy roast dinners and medieval feasts were served.
It makes one wonder what the heck was so important? Some say aliens, some braindead people said climate change, but would that require a trip to the bottom of the world?

The timing was only a few months after (Australia IIRC) finished the last part of the computer. Then nothing. No updates, no data, no discussion just media silence and "Hey all these leaders are off to freeze their arses off. Must be aliens. Don't look into it"
 
They exist, but they're firmly in nuclear fusion territory where it's alarmingly expensive to do it and the eggheads haven't figured out how to make it scalable yet.
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on quantum computers (or even regular ones), but I know that networking together multiple local machines works for regular computers. Is that not a thing with quantum computers?
 
I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on quantum computers (or even regular ones), but I know that networking together multiple local machines works for regular computers. Is that not a thing with quantum computers?
The problem is more fundamental. You can't just throw more semiconductors at the problem. The few quantum computers that do run need a LOT of helium-3 (which is expensive af right now, maybe that gets cheaper once we start mining the moon) to function.
Doesn't help that the whole nature of a qubit means we would have to change fundamental assumptions about how code works to accommodate it, and that's a big ask for big tech. Honestly, I think it would take at least one generation to build a new developer set who can wrap their head around building a fully quantum-based product.
 
It takes a few hours to set up a password manager and go through and change all your important accounts, but once you've done that front-loaded work, dealing with passwords becomes so easy and convenient. I did it several years ago and am so glad I did.
just remember to keep backups of your database file on multiple different devices (and possibly online)
otherwise a single hardware failure can permanently lock you out of every single account you have
 
They exist and are very powerful.

A few years back, a bunch of countries (Aus,UK,Russia,US (IBM), and a few others) decided to build a quantum computer. To stop any one country having better tech than the rest, they split the computer into parts; Software, Hardware, QBIT engine, etc, then they would come together and fit the pieces to make one machine on neutral ground.

There was a big problem though; in order to keep this super computer doing its thang, it needed to be super cold, well into the -40 degree range. There are a few places on Earth this cold, but none are neutral, except...Antarctica.

So a few years ago, all of the worlds leaders went for a jolly down to Antarctica; one of the most remote, barron and inhospital places on Earth. The leaders lived in tin-sheds with few, if any luxuries. Trump and Putin were among the team, remember?

Well, the rumour is that they were all watching and witnessing the power of the QC supercomputer to see what it could do. It could; crack Fort Knox, NASA and Pentagon encryptions in seconds. It access, and launch, any and all nuclear weapons from any silo, from anywhere in the world. That's not a tool that any leader wants any other leader to have, and learning the lessons of the nuclear arms race, decided not to build any more or take it home. Right now, the QC supercomputer has no access to any internet and is housed in Antarctica for very good security reasons.
Where does China stand in all that?
 
A few years back, a bunch of countries (Aus,UK,Russia,US (IBM), and a few others) decided to build a quantum computer. To stop any one country having better tech than the rest, they split the computer into parts; Software, Hardware, QBIT engine, etc, then they would come together and fit the pieces to make one machine on neutral ground.
Isn't that how "I have no mouth and I must scream" started? Anyways still sounds bullshit regular super computer just with some better probability calculation.
 
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Science fictiony but truly horrifying conspiracy theory:
We don't yet have much, if any, handle on the probable upper limit of quantum computing power. There are many things that are theoretically possible from a physics standpoint, but no one can model them or meaningful explore them, because insufficient computing power.
Suddenly highly specific restrictions on the development of that technology appear, worldwide, at the same time, and no one is prepared to explain why. No one seems very sure where they are coming from policy-wise, but everyone knows that it's really fucking important.
The strongest evidence we have that travelling back in time isn't possible is that we've never met a time traveller, or any object which has travelled backwards in time.
But what we do have is a nascent technology that can iteratively develop itself, and pretty quickly could develop itself beyond our capacity to develop it.
What if there was a point where humanity, unawares, stumbled upon a turning point in the development of that technology that allowed some terrible genie out of a bottle? A genie so terrible that it itself developed a way to warn humanity: don't open the bottle?
Maybe we would take that warning, whose existence alone was unspeakably horrifying, very fucking seriously.
thank u for coming to my TEDx conspiracy showcase
 
I'm wondering when they're going to start placing restrictions on computing power for general use.
The only question is how this will affect the webshit vs RAM and CPU arms race.
 
I don't see why there would be some super secret conspiracy here. There was probably some international conference of super computing last week and some dude recommended it to everyone there. Does it have to be that deep?
 
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Where does China stand in all that?
I imagine they have a part in it, but I'm honestly not sure. Check the flight/travel data for when the heads went to Antarctica. If pooh went for a wintry holiday, they're involved.
Anyways still sounds bullshit regular super computer just with some better probability calculation.
A Qbit (Quantum bit) can exist in either/and both states of true/false 1/0 at the same time. If an encryption key is:
HND9563748JHfkjhgs9h9gdf455656sdjy8hgt4ffdsjHJ985 (Convert for Binary at your own leisure), it would take a normal computer a long time to crack. A Qbit just becomes a 1 and/or a 0, which means it's correct at all times, for any encryption key.

I'm guessing the limit on Qbits is so that it can't crack a longer chain that 32 bit encryption, but this is wild speculation and perhaps bollocks.
 
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