Multiple nations enact mysterious export controls on quantum computers - Identical wording placing limits on the export of quantum computers has appeared in regulations across the globe. There doesn't seem to be any scientific reason for the controls, and all can be traced to secret international discussions


Secret international discussions have resulted in governments across the world imposing identical export controls on quantum computers, while refusing to disclose the scientific rationale behind the regulations. Although quantum computers theoretically have the potential to threaten national security by breaking encryption techniques, even the most advanced quantum computers currently in public existence are too small and too error-prone to achieve this, rendering the bans seemingly pointless.

The UK is one of the countries that has prohibited the export of quantum computers with 34 or more quantum bits, or qubits, and error rates below a certain threshold. The intention seems to be to restrict machines of a certain capability, but the UK government hasn’t explicitly said this. A New Scientist freedom of information request for a rationale behind these numbers was turned down on the grounds of national security.

France has also introduced export controls with the same specifications on qubit numbers and error rates, as has Spain and the Netherlands. Identical limits across European states might point to a European Union regulation, but that isn’t the case. A European Commission spokesperson told New Scientist that EU members are free to adopt national measures, rather than bloc-wide ones, for export restrictions. “Recent controls on quantum computers by Spain and France are examples of such national measures,” they said. They declined to explain why the figures in various EU export bans matched exactly, if these decisions had been reached independently.

A spokesperson for the French Embassy in London told New Scientist that the limit was set at a level “likely to represent a cyber risk”. They said that the controls were the same in France, the UK, the Netherlands and Spain because of “multilateral negotiations conducted over several years under the Wassenaar Arrangement”.

“The limits chosen are based on scientific analyses of the performance of quantum computers,” the spokesperson told New Scientist. But when asked for clarification on who performed the analysis or whether it would be publicly released, the spokesperson declined to comment further.

The Wassenaar Arrangement is a system adhered to by 42 participating states, including EU members, the UK, the US, Canada, Russia, Australia, New Zealand and Switzerland, that sets controls on the export of goods that could have military applications, known as dual-use technologies. Canada has also implemented identical wording on 34 qubits into a quantum computer export ban.

New Scientist wrote to dozens of Wassenaar states asking about the existence of research on the level of quantum computer that would be dangerous to export, whether that research has been published and who carried it out. Only a few responded.

“We are closely observing the introduction of national controls by other states for certain technologies,” says a spokesperson for the Swiss Federal Department of Economic Affairs, Education and Research. “However, existing mechanisms can already be used to prevent in specific cases exports of such technologies.”

“We are obviously closely following Wassenaar discussions on the exact technical control parameters relating to quantum,” says Milan Godin, a Belgium adviser to the EU’s Working Party on Dual-Use Goods. Belgium doesn’t appear to have implemented its own export restrictions yet, but Godin says that quantum computers are a dual-use technology due to their potential to crack commercial or government encryption, as well as the possibility that their speed will eventually allow militaries to make faster and better plans – including in relation to nuclear missile strikes.

A spokesperson for the German Federal Office for Economic Affairs and Export Control confirmed that quantum computer export controls would be the result of negotiations under the Wassenaar Arrangement, although Germany also doesn’t appear to have implemented any restrictions. “These negotiations are confidential, unfortunately we cannot share any details or information about the considerations of this control,” says the spokesperson.

Christopher Monroe, who co-founded quantum computer company IonQ, says people in the industry have noticed the identical bans and have been discussing their criteria, but he has no information on where they have come from.

“I have no idea who determined the logic behind these numbers,” he says, but it may have something to do with the threshold for simulating a quantum computer on an ordinary computer. This becomes exponentially harder as the number of qubits rises, so Monroe believes that the rationale behind the ban could be to restrict quantum computers that are now too advanced to be simulated, even though such devices have no practical applications.

“The fallacy there is that just because you cannot simulate what the quantum computer is doing doesn’t make it useful. And by severely limiting research to progress in this grey area, it will surely stifle innovation,” he says.
 
Decades ago I was shown stuff at certain military research-and-development conferences that still has never shown up in the civilian world. Am quite sure quantum computing falls into that category.

Far as the wording goes, my guess is the NSA drafted the wording, ran it by the rest of the Five Eyes and certain other countries, incorporated appropriate comments, and provided the final version to all these countries.
 
I imagine they have a part in it, but I'm honestly not sure. Check the flight/travel data for when the heads went to Antarctica. If pooh went for a wintry holiday, they're involved.

A Qbit (Quantum bit) can exist in either/and both states of true/false 1/0 at the same time. If an encryption key is:
HND9563748JHfkjhgs9h9gdf455656sdjy8hgt4ffdsjHJ985 (Convert for Binary at your own leisure), it would take a normal computer a long time to crack. A Qbit just becomes a 1 and/or a 0, which means it's correct at all times, for any encryption key.

I'm guessing the limit on Qbits is so that it can't crack a longer chain that 32 bit encryption, but this is wild speculation and perhaps bollocks.
Unless I fell into some Bernstain bear dimension, the Qbit thing is entirely theoretical and at best replicated approximately in specific cases. And even if that theoretical is resolved you'd need the actual encrypted data connected directly to the PC since you can't send Qbits outside.
 
They exist and are very powerful.

A few years back, a bunch of countries (Aus,UK,Russia,US (IBM), and a few others) decided to build a quantum computer. To stop any one country having better tech than the rest, they split the computer into parts; Software, Hardware, QBIT engine, etc, then they would come together and fit the pieces to make one machine on neutral ground.

There was a big problem though; in order to keep this super computer doing its thang, it needed to be super cold, well into the -40 degree range. There are a few places on Earth this cold, but none are neutral, except...Antarctica.

So a few years ago, all of the worlds leaders went for a jolly down to Antarctica; one of the most remote, barron and inhospital places on Earth. The leaders lived in tin-sheds with few, if any luxuries. Trump and Putin were among the team, remember?

Well, the rumour is that they were all watching and witnessing the power of the QC supercomputer to see what it could do. It could; crack Fort Knox, NASA and Pentagon encryptions in seconds. It access, and launch, any and all nuclear weapons from any silo, from anywhere in the world. That's not a tool that any leader wants any other leader to have, and learning the lessons of the nuclear arms race, decided not to build any more or take it home. Right now, the QC supercomputer has no access to any internet and is housed in Antarctica for very good security reasons.
Sounds like a schizo fantasy.

First, -40C is not cold. Liquid nitrogen is nearly -200C and that is cheaper than pepsi. Pointless going to somewhere noone lives when I could do the same thing in a lab for almost nothing.

I actually think quantum computers need to be way colder than that like less than 1 kelvin, which is cold but can be done with liquid helium or some other technique.
 
Unless I fell into some Bernstain bear dimension, the Qbit thing is entirely theoretical and at best replicated approximately in specific cases. And even if that theoretical is resolved you'd need the actual encrypted data connected directly to the PC since you can't send Qbits outside.
It's not theoretical at all, we've made it work. And the amount of processing power gained from a bit being able to exist in a superposition is extremely empowering.
The hard part is getting mere silicon to read and interpret that. That's why the few supercomputers built to do it can break algorithmic chains like it's a shitty child's toy, but there's only maybe a dozen of them to exist on the planet.
 
Sounds like some think tank managed to get the right people in government to believe in the threat of quantum computers making current encryption methods useless, so they have preemptively passed restrictions on the movement of these machines if they ever do end up becoming a reality.
 
Unless I fell into some Bernstain bear dimension, the Qbit thing is entirely theoretical and at best replicated approximately in specific cases. And even if that theoretical is resolved you'd need the actual encrypted data connected directly to the PC since you can't send Qbits outside.

Sounds like a schizo fantasy.

The only part of the above that isn't documented is that the QC exists in Antarctica and if it does, that's why the leaders went. Which makes more sense than aliens or secret race, surely?
First, -40C is not cold. Liquid nitrogen is nearly -200C and that is cheaper than pepsi. Pointless going to somewhere noone lives when I could do the same thing in a lab for almost nothing.

I actually think quantum computers need to be way colder than that like less than 1 kelvin, which is cold but can be done with liquid helium or some other technique.
The ambient temp helps keep it cooler vs 20C and helps reduce energy requirements. That and it's one of the only neutral lands.
 
But what we do have is a nascent technology that can iteratively develop itself, and pretty quickly could develop itself beyond our capacity to develop it.
What if there was a point where humanity, unawares, stumbled upon a turning point in the development of that technology that allowed some terrible genie out of a bottle?
That’s basically the foundation for the Butlerian Jihad in the Dune universe
 
I don't see why there would be some super secret conspiracy here. There was probably some international conference of super computing last week and some dude recommended it to everyone there. Does it have to be that deep?
Not a conspiracy, just a private gathering where some decisions were made and a course of action determined, and the participants agreed not to discuss the event with non-attendees. But definitely not a conspiracy.
 
The only part of the above that isn't documented is that the QC exists in Antarctica and if it does, that's why the leaders went. Which makes more sense than aliens or secret race, surely?

The ambient temp helps keep it cooler vs 20C and helps reduce energy requirements. That and it's one of the only neutral lands.
Keeping things that cold isn't actually that hard. It's way easier and cheaper than building a lab in antarctica where noone lives. The temperature isn't the biggest hurdle of a quantum computer I don't believe.
 
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The only part of the above that isn't documented is that the QC exists in Antarctica and if it does, that's why the leaders went. Which makes more sense than aliens or secret race, surely?

The Ross Sea is as precious and wondrous as the Galapagos, it doesn't take a lot of persuasion for people to accept a free holiday there "to inspect the MPA" like it's a massive fence around an ocean or something. If you were cynical you might suggest junkets to exotic and exclusive holiday destinations were the sole reason many movers and shakers sign up for specific environmentalist steering groups and whatnot. The only reason the waters are so pristine in the first place is that humans can only get there during very specific windows of low ice, and when a window opens everyone has to drop everything and bundle in there or miss out for another year or so.

I liked the idea it was testing a supercomputer embedded in the ice, though, much more paranoid than a boring old UFO.
 
Sounds like a schizo fantasy.

First, -40C is not cold. Liquid nitrogen is nearly -200C and that is cheaper than pepsi. Pointless going to somewhere noone lives when I could do the same thing in a lab for almost nothing.

I actually think quantum computers need to be way colder than that like less than 1 kelvin, which is cold but can be done with liquid helium or some other technique.
it is schizo fantasy because all of those nuclear installations have networks that are entirely airgapped from the outside beyond simple communications (which itself is separate)
Nor can a quantum computer hack the human shaped wetware gap between either.
 
What exactly is mysterious here? No one wants other people breaking their encryption, and Quantum Computers are widely believed to be amazing at doing so.
What would the glowies want? To have this while nobody else has it.

What will happen? All glowing agencies will have it, and they'll use it extrajudicially while keeping it as secret as they can so they aren't challenged in court on its use/abuse.

If average people had it, they could use it to create QC-resistent encryption. So they can't have that.

Bad things coming for humanity. I predict a lot of people will start living offline.
 
Decades ago I was shown stuff at certain military research-and-development conferences that still has never shown up in the civilian world. Am quite sure quantum computing falls into that category.

Far as the wording goes, my guess is the NSA drafted the wording, ran it by the rest of the Five Eyes and certain other countries, incorporated appropriate comments, and provided the final version to all these countries.
Or they did what everybody does at these conferences - show off theoretical stuff that doesn't exist in a highly controlled environment where people can't poke too deeply. No different than the AI charlatans.
 
Keeping things that cold isn't actually that hard. It's way easier and cheaper than building a lab in antarctica where noone lives. The temperature isn't the biggest hurdle of a quantum computer I don't believe.
There's a 24/7 manned international crew in Antarctica. It's like the ISS.

The Ross Sea is as precious and wondrous as the Galapagos, it doesn't take a lot of persuasion for people to accept a free holiday there "to inspect the MPA" like it's a massive fence around an ocean or something. If you were cynical you might suggest junkets to exotic and exclusive holiday destinations were the sole reason many movers and shakers sign up for specific environmentalist steering groups and whatnot. The only reason the waters are so pristine in the first place is that humans can only get there during very specific windows of low ice, and when a window opens everyone has to drop everything and bundle in there or miss out for another year or so.

I liked the idea it was testing a supercomputer embedded in the ice, though, much more paranoid than a boring old UFO.
All of the world leaders went on a jolly together, at the same time, to see nature? I wish this was the world we lived in.

it is schizo fantasy because all of those nuclear installations have networks that are entirely airgapped from the outside beyond simple communications (which itself is separate)
Nor can a quantum computer hack the human shaped wetware gap between either.
You think it's a schizo fantasy because the mean hackers would target nuclear plants? My nigga in farms open your eyes. There are easier, and more destructive targets to hit; The NHS, Airlines, Trains and ships/dockyards to disrupt logistics - we saw what happened in covid, The financial system/any bank, any and all manufacturing facilities, biolabs...How many of those are airgapped?

Hell, how about just hacking facebook and twitter and spreading a load of bullshit from official accounts? Remember when hackers got into Obama's twitter and said the WH had been bombed?
 
Putting something in Antarctica is the only way you can be 99.9% sure nobody is stealing it. Any other landmass people can access. Going to Antarctica independently is almost impossible as a regular civilian. You can join a nice cruise and step off at a few very specific places while you’re ushered around and told not to bother the penguins but that’s it. Everyone else is there for work, and usually gets scheduled a long way in advance which allows for checks. Comms can be limited easily, and people are not able to just sneak around outside if it’s winter. Or even most of summer. It’s such a harsh inaccessible place that security is kind of built in. Say you get there as a cook. You still have no access to a base even a mile or two away. You aren’t popping out at night to sneak in like you could in Europe or America.
There are definitely bases there as well that aren’t on maps - remember the strava heatmaps?
I know starlink doesn’t serve the poles too (is that right?) so there may be places with no easy comms as well.
 
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If you think you've accidentally built Skynet, you probably want to airgap that motherfucker as much as possible until you're pretty sure it can't do what you're afraid it can do. If the thing exists in a hole in the frozen bottom of the world, for once it sounds like someone used the human virtue of caution correctly.
Let's hope it doesn't figure out how to talk to the penguins. Great b movie idea though.
The Rise of the Flipper.
Happy Feet 3: Judgement Day.
 
If you think you've accidentally built Skynet, you probably want to airgap that motherfucker as much as possible until you're pretty sure it can't do what you're afraid it can do. If the thing exists in a hole in the frozen bottom of the world, for once it sounds like someone used the human virtue of caution correctly.
Let's hope it doesn't figure out how to talk to the penguins. Great b movie idea though.
The Rise of the Flipper.
Happy Feet 3: Judgement Day.
When it controls the leopard seals we worry. Those things are living nightmares.
 
What if there was a point where humanity, unawares, stumbled upon a turning point in the development of that technology that allowed some terrible genie out of a bottle? A genie so terrible that it itself developed a way to warn humanity: don't open the bottle?
It already happened back in 6172 BC and it's called the Giza Mass Autism Array. Those Atlantean bastards used it to destroy my race's rich cultural history and now our entire legacy has been reduced to spurdo memes and k-poop.

I hope you cavebeasts are happy. May your homes be swallowed up by false vacuum decay, inshallah.
 
The only part of the above that isn't documented is that the QC exists in Antarctica and if it does, that's why the leaders went. Which makes more sense than aliens or secret race, surely?
Or maybe they simply went there to discuss a future treaty on the administration of antarctic resources? Building a QC in Antarctica is dumb, the power savings of not having to cool it down as much are far outstripped by the lack of infrastructure and the logistics cost of hauling everything needed there.
 
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