Musicians that are also Lolcows?

Honestly here in Norway, Varg Vikernes is considered to be a village idiot and the people who consider him to be "based" are worshipping alittle pissbaby. The entire black metal community of the 90s was filled to the brim with edgy fucking retards. Euronymous (the guy Varg killed) justified the burning of ancient cultural herritage churches because it was good to see people suffer from the loss. Not to mention their autistic hatred of death metal because it was too "technical". Then there was their obsession with being sad and pathetic to the point that they hated seeing people smile and having a good time at concerts.
I kinda enjoyed the recent movie, with a brother of the Home Alone kid, and how Christian Vikernes was shown there as the properly retarded mongoloid he is.
 
Prince fucked a bunch of the female musicians he worked with. Such as Shelia E, Susannah Melvoin, Denise Matthews (Vanity), Susan Moonsie, Robin Power, Carmen Electra...the list goes on. I guess people still think because he was short and feminine looking that he didn't get around much. If anything, Prince was rumored to have multiple female partners and orgies at Paisley Park. Prince himself however wasn't as respectful of women as he made himself out to be. He was often very controlling of his colleagues to the point where he would tell them how to dress and how to eat.

I honestly consider Prince to be much more weirder than say Michael Jackson, because Prince would just say or do really strange things with no explanation. I had a conversation with one of my friends about how Prince became a Jehovah's Witness in the 2000s and they said something really interesting about how mostly; really crazy people get involved with that. MJ for instance, stopped getting involved with JWs after Thriller because they hassled him about the music video which had "occult" elements which was against their teachings. MJ didn't even celebrate Christmas until 1993 because it was ingrained in him since childhood to not partake any holidays.

After Prince became a JW he stopped cursing or doing the raunchy things he was famous for, this including not singing some of his more explicit songs like Darling Nikki. He would also make really odd decisions with how he distributed his music or videos. At one point he started removing his music videos from MTV and VH1's websites around 2007-2008. Some fans tried to archive them on a now defunct website called imeem and they stayed up for about a year until the website was bought out by MySpace. For about a decade, the only way you could watch Prince's music videos online was through Chinese or Russian websites. Prince did however make a temporary site where you could watch all his music videos, but the catch was that it cost about $77 to gain access to it all (the site was only up just to promote one of his albums, Lotus Flower).
  • Prince was a control freak. He pulled his music from online and basically abused DMCA because he wanted to control every aspect. If his music wasn't so amazing, these moves would have killed his legacy. Thankfully, his sister isn't as crazy and is releasing a lot of shit now of days. And all his music is on streaming and yt and the like.
  • He was a major fucking asshole. Not on Mike Love's level, but up there. Maybe on the level of a Billy Corgan.
  • Prince was into new age shit until he became a JV. What probably pushed him was losing his only child due to a rare birth defect.
  • He abused the Billboard 200 counting system. He gave out copies of Musicology on the tour to promote it when you bought a concert ticket. Billboard caught wind and fixed that.
  • He hired Kevin Smith to make a documentry about one of his fan gatherings (A Celebration 2000). Its never been released. But apparently, he re-edited it to get people to join JV. According to Kevin anyways.
  • Him being a JV basically contributed to his death. He had hip problems. Caused him major pain. Became a pill junkie to numb it. If he'd gotten a hip replacement surgery, he might still be with us. He didn't because JV's don't believe in blood transfusions. Seriously.
  • Pictures of his death are online. Minnesota have a law that basically forces all police evidence to be released after a year. So its out there. I've seen it. Wish I didn't. Its not graphic. Just Prince slumpt over in his elevator. But he's my favorite artist. Its haunting.
  • He might not have fucked Shelia E. Its rumored that she's a dyke. But he probably did fuck Kim Bassinger.
He's my favorite artist. I will admit he was a major asshole. But apparently, he could be very nice too. He was a complicated man to say the least.
 
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I kinda enjoyed the recent movie, with a brother of the Home Alone kid, and how Christian Vikernes was shown there as the properly retarded mongoloid he is.
Lords of Chaos was alright for what it was. My only gripe is that it somewhat made Euronymous more of a likeable rascal than what he truly was in real life, even if those scenes where he interacted with his perfectly normal family were quite funny when contrasting to his black metal persona. But really, according to his peers, the guy was an abusive fucktard who thought of himself way too highly for his supposedly innovative techniques and the whole movement he was trying to create. Plus, he didn't do shit to help, he pretty much expected the records he put on his shop to sell themselves and that's that, while expecting the other members to help divulge Mayhem's material 24/7. Again, we have only shady rumours raised by Varg and other fucked up individuals from the scene to back these up.

Also, most likely had he lived to this day, he would be almost as much of a lolcow as Varg, except with communism instead of nazism/white supremacy. I did hear his obsession with far-left politics was more due to the millions of deaths provoked in communist regimes, which actually makes it even worse. It goes straight into horrorcow territory, and indeed, he already went that way with the whole "cope with Dead's suicide by taking pics of his corpse and distributing pieces of his shattered skull to friends". And if you believe Varg for God knows what reason, he intended to kill him in some sort of pagan ritual mixed with snuff film.
 
Where do I even begin with Ritchie Blackmore? So very much to unpack.

I'm not even talking about nowadays, as he prances around Long Island in medieval LARP costumes and a long wig full-time, despite having grown obese due to his craft-beer habit-- I'm talking about historically as well.

Like when he would place explosives onstage and throw smashed guitars at the front rows of fans, all because he was in a bad mood and didn't feel like playing an hour too early that day. Or when he would get into actual food-fights against Ian Gillan, hurling plates of spaghetti into his face because tired and cranky like a three-year-old.

And the autistic obsession with Germany, which continues to this day.

And the interviews which consist entirely of trolling the reporter with sarcastic answers and bullshit stories to every single question, with a deadpan look and a blank tone the whole while.

And the refusal to hire back any one of the small army of singers who wanted in on that sad attempt at a Rainbow reunion in Russia & Europe a few years ago, preferring instead to take on an unknown Chilean kid whose voice sounds like a cross between Billy Corgan and a yak, because he honestly believed the Chilean kid's voice was superior to that of Joe Lynn Turner or Graham Bonnet.

I could do this all day here. As far as musician cows go, he's an entire cattle ranch combined.
 
I wonder if with TV talent shows and YouTube and SoundCloud making it easier for musicians to get a wide audience, there'll be more musically inclined lolcows. Like Russell Greer or Onision, they make music but they're known for being weirdos first and foremost and it's easy to forget they're aspiring musicians.
I actually mulled your question over for days.

In my mind, I keep coming back to the idea that if they make good music, or at least competent music, it does give them a legitimate skill or talent. While having zero talent (preferably with lots of hubris) is not a prerequisite for lolcowdom, it does describe many of the most entertaining and reliable lolcows.

I'd also hazard to say that if any one of them made music good enough that they gain an audience of listeners attracted primarily to the music, they disqualify themselves as true lolcows, but can still inhabit the fringes of lolcowdom as "internet famous"

Russell's music is disquieting and lulzy, and I don't think there are fans of Russ-the-musician who are unaware of his lolcow status. I've never entered Onision's world, and am unlikely to now. But I suspect the main draw to Onision is Onision, not his music.

There are lolcows who have certain skills, like being able to cook a good meal, or being able to excel on a video game, or being able to dance or something. So one could be a lolcow, and make decent self-produced music. But if the music is good, and people get into the music, then he or she has a legitimate claim to fame, which changes the dynamics between lolcows and their audiences.

So, I guess my wishy-washy cop-out reply, days in the making, is that I guess it depends on how a person defines "lolcow" and "musicianship".
 
That guy in Wintersun infamously postponed one of his albums for years Chinese Democracy style, and held it ransom saying that he will only finish it if fans crowdfund him his own personal studio with a sauna built in. Because the music just has too many layers for the studio he had access to at the time or something. He's from Finland, which may or may not make the sauna demand less ridiculous.
 
Yeah, Jari from Wintersun is a total clown. Even before the sauna stuff he was making excuses for not releasing his second album saying modern computers couldn't handle all the tracks in his music, which is really just layering basic synth backings on top of themselves 200 times to make them sound BIG AND EPIC!!!1. He eventually released half of the promised album and it was mixed like shit and absolutely drowning in keyboards.

What's worse is that for whatever reason he has a legion of idiot fanboys that'd suck his cock if he asked despite only being involved in a couple of bubblegum metal albums in his career. The dude is seriously talented to be honest, but he's such a goof I refuse to support him.
 
Somewhat in this vein I came across this series called "Acid Casualties" on youtube about as you can guess musicians who burnt out and faded away due to drug abuse specifically LSD. It's not always great or even good and I don't know a lot of the guys he talks about so I can't speak to the accuracy but it's a neat little series at times.
 
Lords of Chaos was alright for what it was. My only gripe is that it somewhat made Euronymous more of a likeable rascal than what he truly was in real life, even if those scenes where he interacted with his perfectly normal family were quite funny when contrasting to his black metal persona. But really, according to his peers, the guy was an abusive fucktard who thought of himself way too highly for his supposedly innovative techniques and the whole movement he was trying to create. Plus, he didn't do shit to help, he pretty much expected the records he put on his shop to sell themselves and that's that, while expecting the other members to help divulge Mayhem's material 24/7. Again, we have only shady rumours raised by Varg and other fucked up individuals from the scene to back these up.

Also, most likely had he lived to this day, he would be almost as much of a lolcow as Varg, except with communism instead of nazism/white supremacy. I did hear his obsession with far-left politics was more due to the millions of deaths provoked in communist regimes, which actually makes it even worse. It goes straight into horrorcow territory, and indeed, he already went that way with the whole "cope with Dead's suicide by taking pics of his corpse and distributing pieces of his shattered skull to friends". And if you believe Varg for God knows what reason, he intended to kill him in some sort of pagan ritual mixed with snuff film.
Euronymous also terrorized Dead constantly. Dead sometimes slept outside because of it.

Euronymous would probably be a Nazbol if he was alive today. This guy was an edgelord hipster. No way he'd settle for just communism.

Speaking of Dead, he was a horrorcow. One that would be impossible to follow because he hated technology. If he hadn't committed suicide, he'd likely be some hermit in the woods trying to be a living corpse. Let's end this post with his suicide note.
Excuse the blood, but I have slit my wrists and neck. It was the intention that I would die in the woods so that it would take a few days before I was possibly found. I belong in the woods and have always done so. No one will understand the reason for this anyway. To give some semblance of an explanation I'm not a human, this is just a dream and soon I will wake. It was too cold and the blood kept clotting, plus my new knife is too dull. If I don't succeed dying to the knife I will blow all the shit out of my skull. Yet I do not know. I left all my lyrics by "Let the good times roll"—plus the rest of the money. Whoever finds it gets the fucking thing. As a last salutation may I present "Life Eternal". Do whatever you want with the fucking thing. / Pelle. I didn't come up with this now, but seventeen years ago.
This guy was corpsekin.
 
Euronymous also terrorized Dead constantly. Dead sometimes slept outside because of it.

Euronymous would probably be a Nazbol if he was alive today. This guy was an edgelord hipster. No way he'd settle for just communism.

Speaking of Dead, he was a horrorcow. One that would be impossible to follow because he hated technology. If he hadn't committed suicide, he'd likely be some hermit in the woods trying to be a living corpse. Let's end this post with his suicide note.

This guy was corpsekin.
Yeah after Euronymous found Dead after the suicide he took pictures of the body. Then he called the bassist, Necrobutcher, and told him that "Pelle had done the coolest fucking thing ever". Necrobutcher was so disgusted by Euronymous that he left the band.
 
How has Halsey not been mentioned here yet?

Her introduction to the world was her announcing that she's "tri-bi, bisexual, biracial and bipolar". people pretty much immediately laughed at that and told her to take a hike, despite New Americana and Gasoline being decent hits. then there's the fact that she has absolutely zero self awareness- none, whatsoever. Like in 2017 when she have us this immortal nugget: "Kendrick [Lamar] has done a Maroon 5 feature, a Taylor Swift feature and a Sia feature - which is more pop features than I've done. And no one's calling him a pop star. But I'm being called one, even though I'm inherently an alternative artist." Bitch they're not calling Kendrick Lamar pop because he's a HIP HOP artist, dipshit. And miss me with that labeling bullshit, your music is as pop as it gets

Then there's her seemingly constant need to comment on literally everything and insert herself into just about everything. Didn't she even have a Bring Me the Horizon feature last year???

Its sad because she's one of the more talented modern pop artists out there, but her constant shitty attitude and running her mouth just pisses me off to no end.
 
I like to think Euronymous and Dead might have just grown up to be semi-regular people.
They were young, hormonal and angry. Get enough young, hormonal, angry dudes in a tightly knit scene, and the way they constantly reinforce each other's behavior can make things spiral out of control. Maybe sometimes the difference between a fist through a drywall and arson is just a few random environmental factors.

That guy earlier in the thread is barking up the wrong tree holding black metal's silly "anti-happiness" ethos against Varg; Varg fucking hates black metal now and has basically renounced the entire scene.

He's definitely a weird person with some out-there views, but you're ⏰ if you still think of him as "that church-burning black metal nazi guy."
 
Lars Ulrich

Danzig

Mick Jagger

Serj Tankian

I second Danzig, lol.

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NO PHOTOOOOOS!

No, seriously. He'll put you in a headlock if you pull out a camera.

 
  • Prince was a control freak. He pulled his music from online and basically abused DMCA because he wanted to control every aspect. If his music wasn't so amazing, these moves would have killed his legacy. Thankfully, his sister isn't as crazy and is releasing a lot of shit now of days. And all his music is on streaming and yt and the like.
  • He was a major fucking asshole. Not on Mike Love's level, but up there. Maybe on the level of a Billy Corgan.
  • Prince was into new age shit until he became a JV. What probably pushed him was losing his only child due to a rare birth defect.
  • He abused the Billboard 200 counting system. He gave out copies of Musicology on the tour to promote it when you bought a concert ticket. Billboard caught wind and fixed that.
  • He hired Kevin Smith to make a documentry about on of his fan gatherings (A Celebration 2000). Its never been released. But apparently, he re-edited it to get people to join JV. According to Kevin anyways.
  • Him being a JV basically contributed to his death. He had hip problems. Caused him major pain. Because a pill junkie to numb it. If he'd gotten a hip replacement surgery, he might still be with us. He didn't because JV's don't believe in blood transfusions. Seriously.
  • Pictures of his death are online. Minnesota have a law that basically forces all police evidence to be released after a year. So its out there. I've seen it. Wish I didn't. Its not graphic. Just Prince slumpt over in his elevator. But he's my favorite artist. Its haunting.
  • He might not have fucked Shelia E. Its rumored that she's a dyke. But he probably did fuck Kim Bassinger.
He's my favorite artist. I will admit he was a major asshole. But apparently, he could be very nice too. He was a complicated man to say the least.
Dont forget that he cancelled an anticipated come back album that was finished and in distribution because he had a bad trip.

Dahvie Vanity is a horrorcow and his molesting Jessie Slaughter is directly responsible for her notoriety and increasing how fucked up her life is.

ICP is low hanging fruit and it's hard to gauge just how self aware they are/how much of an act it is. But I'm going to give it to them because of the time Violent J wore a fursuit to go to a furry convention with his daughter.
AFAIK the ICP are fully self aware.

I went to a Gathering years ago. Got a juggalo friend to go with me to Bonnaroo in exchange for me going to the Gathering. Exact same vibe and type of people at both places. Generally had fun. Only real difference is that the chicks at Bonnaroo were significantly better looking.
 
Yeah, Jari from Wintersun is a total clown. Even before the sauna stuff he was making excuses for not releasing his second album saying modern computers couldn't handle all the tracks in his music, which is really just layering basic synth backings on top of themselves 200 times to make them sound BIG AND EPIC!!!1. He eventually released half of the promised album and it was mixed like shit and absolutely drowning in keyboards.

What's worse is that for whatever reason he has a legion of idiot fanboys that'd suck his cock if he asked despite only being involved in a couple of bubblegum metal albums in his career. The dude is seriously talented to be honest, but he's such a goof I refuse to support him.
Could've sworn there was some dumb drama regarding The Forest Seasons but I'm probably getting that confused with Jari's "hey I need some money to build a new studio that has a sauna in it or else I can't write Time II."

I heard they are (i.e. Jari is) asking for more money again, because of course. And I found this quote from Jari recently:
"Releasing albums isn't an obligation for any band. Just because a fan buys Kill 'Em All, Metallica isn't obligated to record and release Ride The Lightning for their fans.
Also we have been very clear about all our products that we are selling."

I mean if you're dumb enough to give him money at this point, you get exactly what you deserve. And apparently 220 people on Patreon are stupid enough to give him 12 euros a month.
He's definitely a weird person with some out-there views, but you're ⏰ if you still think of him as "that church-burning black metal nazi guy."
Yeah, now Varg is just the hobo nazi guy who's probably now better known as a meme than a black metaller or whatever you call his cheesy casio synth albums.
 
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Oh boy, finally the thread for me.

I'll start with one of the most batshit of current era musicows: Azealia Banks.


Arrested in 2009 for slashing her sister in the neck, arm and hand with a box cutter. Banks, who was 17 at the time of the violent incident, was given special treatment as result of her young age, despite her guilty plea in connection with attempted assault in the incident.

In 2015, Banks got in a confrontation with passengers and flight crew while departing a Delta flight that had landed in Los Angeles. According to witnesses, Banks was trying to rush off the flight and squeeze past people before a man blocked her path. Her response? to spit in the mans face, punch and claw him. This ended with a Delta employee attempting to intervene, with Banks calling the flight attendant a “fucking faggot”.

Later that year, Banks was arrested for getting into an altercation with a female security guard at the Up&Down club in NY. She was arrested on a misdemeanor charge for punching and biting the female security guard’s breast.

In 2016, Sarah Palin threatened to sue Banks in response to a cluster of tweets attacking Palin, with one entailing: “Let’s find the biggest burliest blackest negroes and let them run a train on her. Film it and put it on Worldstar”. Palin went on to respond to Banks and scaled her for not using her platform to condemn racism and being pro-rape. Banks later apologized and insisted her remark wasn’t pro-rape saying: “I used the term ‘run a train,’ which is slang for group sex, NOT for ‘rape’”. Palin didn’t take this apology and continued to threaten a suit. Banks later said on twitter: “If Sarah Palin actually decides to sue me I’ll only use the controversy to make myself an even larger American Cultural Figure.” and “When you’re a public figure who courts attention, you can’t sue for making jokes. Freedom of Speech girllllyyyyy.”

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Two months later, Banks was in the news again, this time for tweeting racist and homophobic remarks towards One Direction member Zayn Malik. With this, she was dropped as headliner from a music festival and her twitter restricted.

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At the end of 2016, Banks posted a rather gruesome scene on her instagram, detailing a cleanup in her apartment closet where she claimed to have been practicing brujeria. The videos posted showed a blood covered closet with feathers and flesh of decaying chickens. Sia (who is a cow herself), criticised Banks for this, and Banks replied saying: "your ugly pasty dry white lady winter skin face is the ugliest face I've ever seen, that must be why you hide it all the time. Have some fucking respect for my fucking traditional African religion, you pompous white bitch.”

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In 2017, Banks opened her own store where she sells handmade soaps, mostly for gay men to clean their assholes with. Yes, really. Asks guys to send her 'photos of their buttholes' in a bizarre Instagram post "to show how well bussyboy works”, with a Twitter user reporting a terrible reaction to using “Bussyboy” soap.

Most famously, Banks is known for the whole drama between her and fellow musicow, Grimes and her billionaire boyfriend, otherwise known as Elon Musk. It’s quite long and too detailed for me to type up, this article has a decent timeline on the whole thing.

While on tour in 2019, Banks made wordplay of irish airline Aer Lingus, calling it “Air Cunnilingus”, and then later had to leave the flight due to yet another altercation with an air stewardess after calling the stewardess “fucking ugly” on instagram. Banks continued to take it out on the entirety of Ireland, labeling them as “inbred” and “leprechauns”, adding adding "most of you can't talk or write." She also mocked the Great Famine on Instagram by asking a follower; "don't you have a famine to go die in?”.

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But her tour antics didn’t stop there.

After a performance in Sweden, Banks commented "I would really love to see someone bomb the shit out of this place, LMFAO. Give y'all white asses something to fucking cry about. Ugly blonde pigs you Swedes are.” and yet again, another altercation on an airplane! On her flight back to Los Angeles, she accused the staff of racist assault, with the airline denying this and claiming Banks was acting erratic on said flight, which led to the decision of them contacting law enforcement and escorting her off the plane.
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That's just some of what she gets up to. here's another list on some other drama she has gotten into.
 
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