My Adventures With Superman

Jesus, how the fuck does the actual Saturday morning cartoon from the 90's come off as more mature and adult than a Superman cartoon on Adult Swim?!
It wasn't meant for Adult Swim and was moved as CN is for literal babies now. It was supposed to be a Cartoon Network series along with Batman: Caped Crusader back in like 2020, but the head of CN said they stared adults and kids cannot relate to adult characters, so Superman got moved to Adult Swim and Batman to Amazon. Both are likely to be cancelled and were just projects too far in development for Zazlav to kill.
 
I'm probably alone here, but I actually really enjoy this show so far. It's no Bruce Timm animated series, but for a modern cartoon it's far from the worst thing I've ever seen. A lot of the Superman adaptations in the past decade or so have taken a more cynical approach to the character, so this show being bright and optimistic is a welcome change of pace. I hate characters being raceswapped, but Lois is enjoyable so far and Jimmy actually feels like Jimmy rather than being a generic black guy like he was in the live action Supergirl show. I know that Clark being a soft dork isn't what older fans want to see, but I think for younger viewers it will help to solve the "Superman isn't relatable" problem (I know he's always been relatable, but most modern writers suck so it's become a meme). I'd rather introduce my kids to the character with this show than with say, Man of Steel.

I'll hold my judgement on the show making all the villains tech-based for now. I don't like it, but it does serve to make Clark's powers more unique and the writers seem to be taking it somewhere at least. The fact it's being written by tumblr people doesn't give me much hope that they'll stick the landing, but maybe they'll surprise me.
 
They must think ChadGannon is super gay then:

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far. It's no Bruce Timm animated series, but for a modern cartoon it's far from the worst thing I've ever seen
Race bending aside it's largely inoffensive bordering on good, at least from what little I've seen so far. Clark and Lois are clearly into each other and I appreciate Clark being a dork as he was in the classic films, while a more confident Superman is his true persona.

In the Timm stuff and most modern adaptations Clark and Superman act identically. Thus his secret identity falls apart.
 
They really are just changing all the villains’s powers to be tech-based, aren’t they?
 
They really are just changing all the villains’s powers to be tech-based, aren’t they?
TBF it fits Superman. Superman has always been a more high concept sci-fi, so having all the villains be either alien or tech focused is in line with the series probably more so than magic or the mystical chemical baths/ lighting like Batman villains get. I know the comics do it, but that doesn't make characters like Silver Banshee not feel extremely weird when compared to the rest of his line up.
 
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TBF it fits Superman. Superman has always been a more high concept sci-fi, so having all the villains be either alien or tech focused is in line with the series probably more so than magic or the mystical chemical baths/ lighting like Batman villains get. I know the comics do it, but that doesn't make characters like Silver Banshee not feel extremely weird when compared to the rest of his line up.
Agree to disagree. Turning all the villains to “some dude with metal helmet/boot/gloves/whatever” seems incredibly boring. Literally all Superman had to do is superspeed over and break it. At least when the powers are their own, there’s no immediate stopping of them.
 
TBF it fits Superman. Superman has always been a more high concept sci-fi, so having all the villains be either alien or tech focused is in line with the series probably more so than magic or the mystical chemical baths/ lighting like Batman villains get. I know the comics do it, but that doesn't make characters like Silver Banshee not feel extremely weird when compared to the rest of his line up.
By your logic, all the Batman villains should just be psychos, as opposed to the "mystical chemical baths/lighting" (?) you're mentioning.

Variety is the spice of life.
 
By your logic, all the Batman villains should just be psychos, as opposed to the "mystical chemical baths/lighting" (?) you're mentioning.

Variety is the spice of life.
This. It's one of the reasons it pisses me off when X-Men adaptions try and turn Juggernaut into a mutant since him being a normal dude empowered by godly blessing is part of what makes him unique in the line-up.
 
Agree to disagree. Turning all the villains to “some dude with metal helmet/boot/gloves/whatever” seems incredibly boring. Literally all Superman had to do is superspeed over and break it. At least when the powers are their own, there’s no immediate stopping of them.
This show has really basic designs. Having the villains be science based/tech based could work, hell I am pretty sure Superman TAS was all tech villains, aliens, and whatever genetic experiment Lex was cooking up that day. More magic based Superman villains like Silver Banshee were saved till JL was a thing or other DC characters were getting involved. Turning someone like Banshee into a tech villain could work, the show just needed more interesting design work.

I think this show suffers from not having Lex as a presence as he was sort of the through-line that linked most of Superman's non-cosmic entities. Having him and Star Labs there gives good reason as to why individuals are getting powers or would have the technology and they can easily rewrite many without changing much of anything.

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Also, Banshee can easily be taken out even when it is her own power. The Batman/Superman movie literally just had Superman carry her upwards to low air weakened her into submission. Someone in this very thread was also mad about Livewire as they basically needed Superman to be weak to electricity to make her at all effective. I think some of these villains are just poorly thought out in general.
 
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It's ridiculous to know that they're implementing more magic shit and less science or technology stuff, which was literally one of the main points of Superman in the first place.
 
It's ridiculous to know that they're implementing more magic shit and less science or technology stuff, which was literally one of the main points of Superman in the first place.
Magic was always more Wonder Woman's thing out of the trio. In comparison Superman was sci-fi and Batman was kind of a weird hybrid that never went far in either direction, just being a very strong mix of Noir and B-movie horror.

I will be honest and say it doesn't happen often without other DC shit getting involved, but stuff like Livewire getting hit with electricity then gaining electric powers feels less like Supes and more like Batman. Then we have Banshee which was a supernatural character that had super sonic screams and is designed either like death or a ghost. Even design-wise she looks very off compared to other Superman villains. She seemed better as a Suicide Squad/ Dr Fate threat.

To say the least, I can understand the show going in the tech direction, though they should have just had Lex/ Star Labs make most of the stuff. Lex has always been a strong part of the Super mythos so to replace him with Deathstroke was an odd decision. 1) Because Deathstroke really only works with the Titans, he isn't even a good Bat villain beyond the spectacle of a smack down. 2) Removing Lex removes the great world building of Superman as Lex is so intrinsically tied to Metropolis and its many issues that there is an absence without him. His ego and need to beat Superman causing him to finace shadow governments easily explains characters like Bizarro and most of Supes amped up non-aliens.
 
Magic was always more Wonder Woman's thing out of the trio. In comparison Superman was sci-fi and Batman was kind of a weird hybrid that never went far in either direction, just being a very strong mix of Noir and B-movie horror.
Aquaman is also another DC property that's more emphasis on fantasy. The Flash also is fantasy, but also balances with sci-fi. Superman has always been sci-fi through and through while Batman is more of a down-to-earth character as inspired by the likes of either classics 20s horror or 30s action or drama noir.
Actually that makes sense. Magic is the only thing that can consistently harm superman.
This also explains the kryptonite and such.
 
I'm sorry, but the idea that Superman should only face sci-fi villains is silly to me. I mean, it's really fucking autistic (and I happen to be on the spectrum, so I can say that). It makes sense if he were Golden Age Superman (his powers were inspired by scientific concepts), but his modern power level (which is basically magic) puts him in a place where he can and should deal with anything. Like Thor, do you only want to see Thor fight fantasy and mythological beings? Thor wrecking robots is just as much fun as Superman fighting demons.
 
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