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Yeah but Dallara had something to do with the nextgen car. I suspect 'a lot' with how hushed up they keep it, but I refuse to believe that soy beardo did it himself (except the safety problems, I believe that).

(And now an xtrac trans and BBS wheels. It was funny when the first wheel modification scandal happened to see an official NASCAR edict come on BBS letterhead complete with "Technik aus dem Motorsport". The single lug wheels are weirdly one of the things that bothers me the most about the car.)
Dallara has been part of just about every existing motorsport series at this point. They are today what Lola was in the 20th century in that they always are the reliable partner that everyone sorta trusts to make a cost-effective design. BBS single-nut tech is also something that's been around ever since the 80's but as far as I can tell, only got adopted because it's an off-the-shelf solution that had it's bugs sorted out back in 90's DTM. My personal bet on all these problems is that the France family's trying to find the absolute cheapest possible solutions to their problems, not realizing that by skimping out early they only invite more costs long-term.
 
someone actually does get badly hurt.
Or end careers like Kurt Busch.
so they slapped him on the wrist to make it look like they were being fair.
Lol and even still the whole fanbase is divided because of that so they didn't even please everyone as some think he should have received a lesser or no punishment and others, like us wanted him to get five across the eyes.

But then again, NASCAR has always kinda been retarded when it comes to enforcing its own rules. And keeping the more stupid ones like the yellow line rule which everyone hates.
 
Dallara has been part of just about every existing motorsport series at this point. They are today what Lola was in the 20th century in that they always are the reliable partner that everyone sorta trusts to make a cost-effective design. BBS single-nut tech is also something that's been around ever since the 80's but as far as I can tell, only got adopted because it's an off-the-shelf solution that had it's bugs sorted out back in 90's DTM. My personal bet on all these problems is that the France family's trying to find the absolute cheapest possible solutions to their problems, not realizing that by skimping out early they only invite more costs long-term.
Correct on everything. My problem with the wheels - and I'm far from a 'nascar should be low tech' guy - is they should've paid Aero to make 18" made-here wheels with five lugs. A bit like 90s IRL going no-turbo, I wondered why you're removing one of the most striking visuals and sounds (the vwww vwww vwwww of tire changes in NASCAR) just for somethin' new's sake.

Same with the trans. Like, I get it, xtrac much like Dallara is just the go-to for this stuff but you're puttin' a Brit tranny in muh cup car? I'm sure it's slapped togther here, but...
 
Correct on everything. My problem with the wheels - and I'm far from a 'nascar should be low tech' guy - is they should've paid Aero to make 18" made-here wheels with five lugs. A bit like 90s IRL going no-turbo, I wondered why you're removing one of the most striking visuals and sounds (the vwww vwww vwwww of tire changes in NASCAR) just for somethin' new's sake.

Same with the trans. Like, I get it, xtrac much like Dallara is just the go-to for this stuff but you're puttin' a Brit tranny in muh cup car? I'm sure it's slapped togther here, but...
It's very shitty corporate decisions they keep making and it's pathetic and ridiculous
 
Correct on everything. My problem with the wheels - and I'm far from a 'nascar should be low tech' guy - is they should've paid Aero to make 18" made-here wheels with five lugs. A bit like 90s IRL going no-turbo, I wondered why you're removing one of the most striking visuals and sounds (the vwww vwww vwwww of tire changes in NASCAR) just for somethin' new's sake.

Same with the trans. Like, I get it, xtrac much like Dallara is just the go-to for this stuff but you're puttin' a Brit tranny in muh cup car? I'm sure it's slapped togther here, but...
The way I imagine these decisions were made was down to them finally figuring out how to use a search engine and typing in entries like "Cheap drivetrain motorsports" and "Racecar designer", after their usual people stopped having landlines in their offices.
 
The way I imagine these decisions were made was down to them finally figuring out how to use a search engine and typing in entries like "Cheap drivetrain motorsports" and "Racecar designer", after their usual people stopped having landlines in their offices.
It's stupid corporate decisions that is the reason why NASCAR is failing for the past couple decades
 
Given all the promotion that was leading up to Nascar's inaugural street disaster, I was expecting that the media would be working overtime to call it a success if cars managed to see the checkered flag. But I'm kind of shocked at just how out in force the shill brigade is in these subsequent days.

First of all, the race itself. Was it better than expected? Yes. Was it a good race? No. There were single-car slides into the tire barriers every lap and the maximum speed rarely topped out over 75. It was the exact same kind of low-speed parade that I was expecting, and the guest driver dominated the race due to being the only person in the entire race that actually knew how to drive a track of this sort. I'm convinced that the only reason why we didn't see a gigantic divebomb on the final lap was that the cars were going too slow to actually cause any real damage.

From the reaction on the internet, though...you would think that this race was the second coming of the '79 Daytona 500. Tons of articles crowing about this being a "fantastic win" for Nascar and how they're gaining so many new fans. The media I can understand. The comments from so-called "fans" about the racing being great, I can't. It's to the point where I'm seeing these people gush about the "fantastic racing", and I'm wondering, were we watching the same race? David Land is usually fair to call out Indycar and other sanctioning bodies for dumb decisions, but he immediately slobbered all over Nascar's knob. The comment sections of anything Chicago-related are filled with seal clapping about "what a great race it was". Gluck's poll is averaging one of the highest results ever. I genuinely don't understand this.
 
Yet another basic by-the-numbers race. I wish the "fantastic win" wasn't this hyped up for this race.
 
Given all the promotion that was leading up to Nascar's inaugural street disaster, I was expecting that the media would be working overtime to call it a success if cars managed to see the checkered flag. But I'm kind of shocked at just how out in force the shill brigade is in these subsequent days.

First of all, the race itself. Was it better than expected? Yes. Was it a good race? No. There were single-car slides into the tire barriers every lap and the maximum speed rarely topped out over 75. It was the exact same kind of low-speed parade that I was expecting, and the guest driver dominated the race due to being the only person in the entire race that actually knew how to drive a track of this sort. I'm convinced that the only reason why we didn't see a gigantic divebomb on the final lap was that the cars were going too slow to actually cause any real damage.

From the reaction on the internet, though...you would think that this race was the second coming of the '79 Daytona 500. Tons of articles crowing about this being a "fantastic win" for Nascar and how they're gaining so many new fans. The media I can understand. The comments from so-called "fans" about the racing being great, I can't. It's to the point where I'm seeing these people gush about the "fantastic racing", and I'm wondering, were we watching the same race? David Land is usually fair to call out Indycar and other sanctioning bodies for dumb decisions, but he immediately slobbered all over Nascar's knob. The comment sections of anything Chicago-related are filled with seal clapping about "what a great race it was". Gluck's poll is averaging one of the highest results ever. I genuinely don't understand this.
Me too. I expected everyone to pretend it was great but it's apparently the BEST THING EVER!

Maaaan.
 
Me too. I expected everyone to pretend it was great but it's apparently the BEST THING EVER!

Maaaan.
I had a sneaking suspicion that the shill brigade was going to be working overtime because this race was Ben Kennedy's baby and Nascar couldn't afford to have it turn into their Bud Light moment. And it seems to have worked.

Hopefully, we'll get Montreal to replace it on the calendar, and then everything will be better. But to be realistic, it's still staying on the calendar, we're adding Montreal, and now we get one race a year where cars get stuck in the tire barriers every lap and another race where cars hit the Wall of Champions every lap as Nascar continues its long, slow march to becoming DTM but American as they try to cater to everyone but the people who actually buy tickets to watch their races.
 
The Eldora Million was last night, as was the SRX opener. Weird that Tony Stewart would schedule his two pet projects opposite each other.

Larson got knocked out of the sprint car race pretty early which... I dunno, I'm of two minds on that. I'm sure having big Cup names is good for the dirt events. But on the other hand they win them pretty often when they go in and the big purses then don't go to the weekly dirt racers who need it a hell of a lot more than a NASCAR star.

But in the end one of the PA Posse got it and all's right with the world. Hamlin won SRX which, enh.
 
I got curious and listened to some Radioactive clips. Am I a nostalgia fag when I say it's boring af? There's zero entertainment value in 'em.

It almost feels sanitized somehow compared to the previous years. It might also be because I don't find myself connecting to the drivers anymore.

And then there's Hubba Bubba. Yeah, no.
 
So first time at an actual Cup race in a while, maybe ever. Used to live in a place that only got Busch and Trucks.

Sure, I heard everything about Chase being the most popular driver and all that. I didn't realize it was literally half the fuckin' crowd. I don't remember even Gordonmania being this strong.

Also geez, the Gragson thing.
 
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