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Not true Communism!
I give it 48 hours before thread lock. And only because I give people too much credit.
NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus
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I give it 48 hours before thread lock. And only because I give people too much credit.
milkenjoyer
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Well well well... Seems like I forced the jannie's hand.
Two weeks for chuckling.
A full month for intense laugh emojis.
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There was a thread about eating ass yesterday that was closed relatively quick:
And today there is another one:
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In the thread about the schizo who made that 3 hour Leffen vid
How did they dare to recommend profesional medical help.
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So saying someone needs help is abelist to the galaxy-brains at the RetardEra moderation staff.
Herbert West Reanimator
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It appears that you genuinely do not understand how price-based comparisons work. There are gradations, shades of expectations, commonly associated with specific price points or ranges.
If a game announces a $60 price tag, most people (myself included) will assume that it's marketing itself as a AAA "experience", that there will be a lot of effort put into visuals, that there'll probably be an overly convoluted and unnecessary story so the "cinematic" teams can show off, that there will likely be either online multiplayer or a large open world (possibly both), etc. etc. etc.
If a game announces a $20 price tag, it's declaring its presence in the "we're indie but have quality to speak of" space. When figuring out whether it's worth buying, I'm going to take that declaration into account and see if the game lives up, because there are a lot of good $20 indie games I could be spending my money on instead.
$30 is "high-end indie, probably better considered middle-market".
$40 is "a AAA studio made this but it doesn't have the stereotypical trappings of a AAA game, so they lowered the price to reduce risk".
The reason that games in the bargain bin aren't universally rated 10/10 is that the sliding scale isn't a single, unbroken line, where high price means harsher scores and low price means better scores. Literally nobody believes that the industry works this way. Rather, there are a number of brackets, largely delineated by price, into which a game may fall, and the chosen bracket comes with certain expectations from players.
If I'm paying top dollar for a game, I'm going to hold that game to a top-dollar standard because the things that are in the top-dollar bracket are what I'm comparing the game to (they're the other things I could be spending my $60 on). If I'm paying ten bucks, my expectations will be commensurate with what I generally experience from ten-dollar games. This doesn't extend downward forever. A game I pay a penny for, I will have very low expectations of, and it'll probably be easy for it to exceed those expectations, but it's a penny for a reason -- it's almost certainly not going to come anywhere near a $10 game, let alone a $20 or $40 game. If it somehow manages to mirror the qualities of games from higher brackets, it'll be praised quite highly as very worth the asking price.
Obviously there are other comparisons that get made, such as between games within the same genre, and those are important mechanically. Personal preference is also a factor, of course. Price-based comparison exists as a method of getting some sort of answer to "if I spend $X on this, am I getting my money's worth, compared to the other things I could spend that $X on?" I don't care how good your two-hour indie game is; I'm not paying $40 for it. That's the sort of thing that's being talked about here. If you slap a $60 price tag on a game, be prepared for people to make a price comparison with the other things they could be spending their $60 on. It's highly relevant information for a review. It should be separate from the mechanical analysis, of course, but it should be present.
(Also, I do not in any way believe that $60 inherently represents any level of quality beyond "as bland as possible". That's why I described it the way I did.)
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A discussion on the price increase in the industry
Original thread Content. I keep seeing People around this Website dismiss concern around $70 games as simply Trolls who Dislike Sony. While There are obviously some Bad actors in conversation a majority of us are simply Frustrated at prices going up. The increase in Game prices is Not a Sony...
If a 10 dollar price increase after 15 years is your breaking point, you probably shouldn't have been buying 60 USD games in the first place.
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$70+ games were extremely common on the SNES and N64 back when that was much more costlier in real dollars. Games have never been cheaper. Thread makes no sense except when talking about the very specific niche of buying exclusive titles day one.
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To be fair, next gen games do cost 70 USD in today's money. It's not just PlayStation, but since most mainstream games are still cross-gen, people don't seem to acknowledge much else.
But yes, games are still cheaper than ever. They were cheaper than ever when the price changes to 60 USD before taxes in 2005. And if we were keeping up with inflation, games would cost 80 USD before taxes.
That's not me "defending corporations" or whatever, it's simple fact.
Of course, international prices, I have a tad bit more understanding for, specifically for Australia and Brazil with their insane vidya taxes- but a lot of people not from NA don't seem to realize that whatever price tag you see in the continent is not actually including taxes. Vice versa, North Americans sometimes seem not to know that most European prices do include taxes.
The insinuation in that title, however, is that non-Sony corporations are not part of this supposed "problem". As stated before, mainstream publishers are indeed charging 70 USD for next gen versions of these games and will continue to do so once we pass the cross-gen period. Nintendo's games simply do not drop in price for years at a time, despite their technology - and presumably, their development costs to some extent - being literally 2 generations behind, which the Nintendo hype frenzied Reee never really mentions.
Microsoft's method is the exalted "pro consumer" model, as some like to put it, but it's really just a wannabe Trojan Horse that's actually going to end up hurting their business. They're exercising their customers not to buy games at any price in favor of waiting for it to come to their subscription service.
The problem is, many people (and it's true that we don't know exactly how many) are using the 1 dollar for 3 years exploit, and on the promise of Microsoft getting good games "soon". Once that dries up, and the service increases in price, as all subscriptions do, there's no telling how much growth will be affected. Assuming that they don't actively lose subscribers in the interim.
Excuse the sperging, but I do think there's an interesting conversation to be had about how games are priced and how the market hinges on it.
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LOL that they are pretending to play games.
Many games are half off in a matter of a few weeks after release anyway. Most games are shipped with day one patches too so you can jump in when many of the kinks have been patched out to boot. Only Nintendo games seem to hold their price point very well. Otherwise just hol’ up nigga and wait for the sale.
Many games are half off in a matter of a few weeks after release anyway. Most games are shipped with day one patches too so you can jump in when many of the kinks have been patched out to boot. Only Nintendo games seem to hold their price point very well. Otherwise just hol’ up nigga and wait for the sale.
Product Placement
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Resetera closed the commie thread, OP got so assmad people weren't drinking his kool aid, so he requested it to be closed
www.resetera.com
Got to admit, I didn't expect so many anti commies would be in resetera, was a nice surprise to see many call out the op on his bullshit. Then again they love to consoom and many of them aren't so dumb to not understand the capeshit and video games they love wouldn't happen under communism.
One commie was also banned for calling to kill people, only 2 weeks however
With everything going on in the world, what stops you from turning socialist/marxist? What still makes you cling to capitalism?
People who adhere to a philosophy of "the ends justify the means" cannot be trusted and must be opposed at every step. It won't be different this time. You don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Sure okay. I agree with this. You don't need to trust me, your caution is well informed, "ends...
Got to admit, I didn't expect so many anti commies would be in resetera, was a nice surprise to see many call out the op on his bullshit. Then again they love to consoom and many of them aren't so dumb to not understand the capeshit and video games they love wouldn't happen under communism.
One commie was also banned for calling to kill people, only 2 weeks however
Cured Tranny
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The lack of consistency.
2 weeks I bet was that rat Morrigan. 1 month probably a fat tranny mod.
It seems that if you are trans, you are right, even if you are wrong.
Too bad that black people do not have this freedom on retardera and all of them need to think what the white mods tell them to think.
And for such dramatic post, I bet that this retard fight "against" transphobia in games being an annoying idiot on Twitter. This will show all of them!!!
Jim Fatard thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/si...s-read-staff-post.438403/page-8#post-66815791
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This is why I don't buy that shit, ever. It's saying you're about to pay $60 for a "game" that is half cutscenes that are invariably going to be retarded wokeshit, it will have zero replayability because of a fixed storyline, written by fucking retards and trannies, and the actual gameplay will be absolute shit.
Give me the $20 indie any day. At least if it sucks I won't have blown too much money on it. And even with those I usually wait for some Steam sale and get it for $8 or some shit, after people have already decided it's a good game.
Call me a cheap bastard, but that's how I roll.
Product Placement
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Is Jim a troon or a non binary, I know the dude is a greedy thus is ever expanding waist belt but you can't be both. Also wouldn't it be transphobic to say both are the same thing when one is based on gender being real and the other isn't
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For modering black people, Neph got their backs... Until she gets into a fit where everything is racist when it is not.
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There are certain things that always ruin a person permanently in my eyes and I never allow myself to feel optimism even if they later recant. A reasonable person suddenly going "woke," a woman cheating on her partner, a friend stealing from you, etc. It's a permanent stain -- a wokey will always relapse, a cheater will always cheat again, and a thief will always be a thief. They can never be trusted again and there is no hope of genuine reform. No matter how passionate their apologies are or how many acts of contrition they perform, even if genuine, the doubt will always be there and the potential to relapse never goes away.It's certainly not the first time, and probably won't be the last, that I getand think "is X getting better?" And then it never does. Kill yourself Tyler you retarded elf looking piece of shit. Enjoy your dead gay forum.
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Is Jim a troon or a non binary, I know the dude is a greedy thus is ever expanding waist belt but you can't be both. Also wouldn't it be transphobic to say both are the same thing when one is based on gender being real and the other isn't
He is fat
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You know the whole game pricing thing makes me realise that a lot of people posting on Reset are like many of those graduates I know that stuck around in a university town and never fully moved away from the lifestyle. They turn their noses up at jobs that require sacrificing their weekends or that they consider they are too good for (retail, manual, warehouse, call center etc.) while also sneering at those they know who do take those jobs. But when some of those actually work have spending money, say for example to get games when they feel like it, they would despise them for that too, that the person had that money to spend despite being in the menial worker position.
Basically a lot of people on Ree think they are infinitely superior to most of the world despite the fact that the average delivery driver or waiter who actually works for a living rather than sponges probably has more disposable income than them. Mostly because it being money they worked hard for also means they tend to budget better too. So those people can occasionally pay full whack for a game they're really excited about whereas Reeers cannot do so quite so easily despite being more invested in gaming.
Basically a lot of people on Ree think they are infinitely superior to most of the world despite the fact that the average delivery driver or waiter who actually works for a living rather than sponges probably has more disposable income than them. Mostly because it being money they worked hard for also means they tend to budget better too. So those people can occasionally pay full whack for a game they're really excited about whereas Reeers cannot do so quite so easily despite being more invested in gaming.
Whatsup bud?
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And this person has most likely done nothing useful as far as dismantling capitalism. They say themselves people have to die, but they and people like them arent planning on harming Bezos, Gates or various political "enemies". Kill a rich capitalist (in Minecraft) or STFU alreadyResetera closed the commie thread, OP got so assmad people weren't drinking his kool aid, so he requested it to be closed
View attachment 2245853With everything going on in the world, what stops you from turning socialist/marxist? What still makes you cling to capitalism?
People who adhere to a philosophy of "the ends justify the means" cannot be trusted and must be opposed at every step. It won't be different this time. You don't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Sure okay. I agree with this. You don't need to trust me, your caution is well informed, "ends...
Got to admit, I didn't expect so many anti commies would be in resetera, was a nice surprise to see many call out the op on his bullshit. Then again they love to consoom and many of them aren't so dumb to not understand the capeshit and video games they love wouldn't happen under communism.
One commie was also banned for calling to kill people, only 2 weeks however
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