NeoGAF & ResetERA - The Hilarious N̶e̶v̶e̶r̶e̶n̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ Splintering "Gaming" Forum Circus


Having an Octopath Traveler avatar is more or less poking the hypersensitive troon mods in the girl dick, even if the guy wasn't doing it on purpose.
 
Diving into the Hashino is Hitler thread.

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Kanji is gay because I'm gay. Checkmate, atheists.

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If 5 minutes of clips from these games totaling hundreds of hours I'm asshurt about isn't worthy of the death penalty, what is?

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Atlus is Trump.

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PAY ATTENTION TO ME

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Mike Hunt isn't even trying anymore and the ERA mods still haven't picked up on it.

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Consequences will never be the same

If these idiots had the power they wanted, they'd literally be breaking game developer kneecaps for not worshiping girldick the right way.

It's pretty disturbing how much these loons don't realize their fanaticism only makes their cause look even more deranged than it already is, but the scariest part is that when it makes them look bad, they just get more fanatical.

No wonder these people were too autistic and petty even for NeoGAF.
 
If these idiots had the power they wanted, they'd literally be breaking game developer kneecaps for not worshiping girldick the right way.

It's pretty disturbing how much these loons don't realize their fanaticism only makes their cause look even more deranged than it already is, but the scariest part is that when it makes them look bad, they just get more fanatical.

No wonder these people were too autistic and petty even for NeoGAF.
As I have always said, when you cast all those who do not share your ever mutating dogma as pure evil and ensure that stepping back is punishable by social death and the only social praise people get is from persecuting the heretic or exposing new heresies, your community is going to wind up in Pol Pot land really goddamn fast.

Non troll/shitpost members have literally zero incentive to try and dial back the madness since any slight doubt or dissent from the cause is immediately spun as centrist-and-therefore-nazi heresy and rewarded with a banning, and literally every reason to join in the 2 minutes rage and indeed try to ramp shit up to even more absurd levels because doing so gets the praise and protection of the mods
 
As I have always said, when you cast all those who do not share your ever mutating dogma as pure evil and ensure that stepping back is punishable by social death and the only social praise people get is from persecuting the heretic or exposing new heresies, your community is going to wind up in Pol Pot land really goddamn fast.

Non troll/shitpost members have literally zero incentive to try and dial back the madness since any slight doubt or dissent from the cause is immediately spun as centrist-and-therefore-nazi heresy and rewarded with a banning, and literally every reason to join in the 2 minutes rage and indeed try to ramp shit up to even more absurd levels because doing so gets the praise and protection of the mods
And then you end up putting people in concentration camps for not owning mangoes.
 
As I have always said, when you cast all those who do not share your ever mutating dogma as pure evil and ensure that stepping back is punishable by social death and the only social praise people get is from persecuting the heretic or exposing new heresies, your community is going to wind up in Pol Pot land really goddamn fast.

Non troll/shitpost members have literally zero incentive to try and dial back the madness since any slight doubt or dissent from the cause is immediately spun as centrist-and-therefore-nazi heresy and rewarded with a banning, and literally every reason to join in the 2 minutes rage and indeed try to ramp shit up to even more absurd levels because doing so gets the praise and protection of the mods

tl;dr: retardera needs to lol calm down.

people not letting some opinion they don't like ruin their enjoyment of a game is normal. i will never understand this, on either side of the aisle. i've seen this happen with both people on the right refusing to play games because "muh social justice bad" and people on the left do this shit because "it's not correct about our beliefs!". you do you, but it's just a little dumb to let some trivial matter ruin media for you.
 
tl;dr: retardera needs to lol calm down.

people not letting some opinion they don't like ruin their enjoyment of a game is normal. i will never understand this, on either side of the aisle. i've seen this happen with both people on the right refusing to play games because "muh social justice bad" and people on the left do this shit because "it's not correct about our beliefs!". you do you, but it's just a little dumb to let some trivial matter ruin media for you.

There's one important difference between the left and right.

The right doesn't like SJW games because they are often heavily censored, propaganda to the point of distraction, or simply awful. When you pick up an "authentic" World War 2 game only to find that it's about black female lesbian nazis vs blue hair cyborg women with samurai swords and Braveheart face paint, I understand why someone would throw up their hands and say "fuck this shit".

In contrast, the left is demanding a man lose his job and be blacklisted from the industry because one of many endings in a game the left had no interest in to begin with doesn't match their head canon lived experience.
 
There's one important difference between the left and right.

The right doesn't like SJW games because they are often heavily censored, propaganda to the point of distraction, or simply awful. When you pick up an "authentic" World War 2 game only to find that it's about black female lesbian nazis vs blue hair cyborg women with samurai swords and Braveheart face paint, I understand why someone would throw up their hands and say "fuck this shit".

In contrast, the left is demanding a man lose his job and be blacklisted from the industry because one of many endings in a game the left had no interest in to begin with doesn't match their head canon lived experience.

if i get you right, that's the point of what i'm posting. so what if a character reverses their trans(?) identity, the gameplay and story is what all matters. people push their political agenda way too much into crap, if you want to push a political issue, don't push it into things people use to get away from that sort of mentality.
 
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I'm going to be fucking mad on the internet if I even begin to say anything about this Hashino thing. I have a personal philosophy that you should be respectful towards anyone that dedicates their time to give you something you like. And I don't mean just creative works, I mean if you like burgers, you should have some consideration for this place that serves the burgers you like the best. You go there and you be nice with everyone that works there. They're giving you some joy in life, the least you could do is be decent and try not to behave like an overgrown petulant child for petty bullshit reasons you don't even understand all that well.

Fuck these people. I hope this leads to some kind of weeaboo exodus out of that shithole. Make it just for the troons, cucks and legally stupid motherfuckers and clear out the rest.

Dude, that's where you're wrong. These people have no joy. I've said this before: People like these are degenerate drug addicts. Basically, nothing in life gives them joy. They eat and eat, which is why most of them are fat and out of shape, on sugary garbage and carbohydrates. They barely work, because they're fucking detestable and have little to no people skills. They have no personality. They were stupid or below average or average in schools. They were raised in privileged homes where the only worry was what vidya they got for Christmas. The financial crisis that has defined probably the next 20-30 years didn't even touch them.

The only thing these people have is their identity and dopamine hits they get from outrage. They're constantly looking for their next hit, their next high. And like degenerate drug addicts, they go deeper and deeper to get that high, because they need more to get their fix. They are NPCs because nothing defines them. Their identites are wholly un-unique and as are their views. Their 'rogue style' has become a uniform. Librarian glasses, dyed hair, ugly cut hair, bad beards...you can identify these people's political views by looking. Its rarer and rarer you see someone in a suit and tie, which has become the rogue style now.

They feel no joy, they possess no empathy. They have no personality or distinguishing characteristics besides the most shallow, outward appearances. The only thing that gives them anything is fake outrage to trigger that dopamine loop. Things get more ridiculous because the other things don't get them high anymore. Simply being a decent human being and treating others with respect is no longer enough, nor was it there. These are addicts. Pure and simple. Degenerate, scumfuck addicts who don't care who they hurt or what they do, as long as they can get their fix. The way we get around this is we give no quarter. We don't treat them like people. We treat them like the degenerates that they are. We take away what little power their mob has, then they can inject all they want, the well will have run dry.

This is not the age of they go low, we go high. They go low, we go lower. Fuck these people. Reality plays no part in their beliefs. They argue disingenuous points and take what they hear from their political idols as gospels. They imagine reality as they want it and when reality pushes back against them, they lose their minds. You can't fight fair and win against crazy and drug addicts. You hit them hard.

I hate to say 'culture war', but it is a war. They want to ruin lives, make people functionally homeless and unemployable for their beliefs or their art. Permanently. They chose this path. Anytime this happens, it must not be tolerated. I'm tired of being the silent fucking majority, but its not like the majority has anywhere to express their beliefs anymore. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube will all ban you for wrongthink. They're removing ways of showing how people actually think instead of the ways they want them to think. Like I said, when reality doesn't add up, they'll try to fake it. And when they can't fake it, they'll try to force it.

Today, I saw an article where people were advocating for a 'vaccine' against racism. They don't just want to control speech on Twitter, they want to make it biologically impossible for you to think the wrong way. Make no mistake, they don't want to change you for the better or make you a better person. They want to own your mind so they have power. They don't care about racism, or trans-phobia. They're paranoid drug addicts who want power over what you see, what you hear and now, what you even think. If we ever come out of this mess, history will not look kindly upon them. Just like it didn't look kind upon the Religious Right, the Victorians or the Moral Majority. It'll be viewed as a backwards age.

That is, if we ever get out of it to see the end of it.
 
tl;dr: retardera needs to lol calm down.

people not letting some opinion they don't like ruin their enjoyment of a game is normal. i will never understand this, on either side of the aisle. i've seen this happen with both people on the right refusing to play games because "muh social justice bad" and people on the left do this shit because "it's not correct about our beliefs!". you do you, but it's just a little dumb to let some trivial matter ruin media for you.
I completely disagree with you. Why would I play a game I can't enjoy?

I refuse to play watchdogs 2 for example. For me it's a game made by commies for commies, it's ugly, disgusting and gross. And it has a nigger hacker which is impossible because hackers are smart.

You just don't need to make a circus about that.
 
I completely disagree with you. Why would I play a game I can't enjoy?

I refuse to play watchdogs 2 for example. For me it's a game made by commies for commies, it's ugly, disgusting and gross. And it has a nigger hacker which is impossible because hackers are smart.

You just don't need to make a circus about that.

absolutely your call. my big deal is people who assault others for liking a game they don't like for matters like it's some sort of social justice thing, or doesn't fit some sort of PC narrative.
 
I hate to say 'culture war', but it is a war. They want to ruin lives, make people functionally homeless and unemployable for their beliefs or their art. Permanently. They chose this path. Anytime this happens, it must not be tolerated. [...] Today, I saw an article where people were advocating for a 'vaccine' against racism. They don't just want to control speech on Twitter, they want to make it biologically impossible for you to think the wrong way. Make no mistake, they don't want to change you for the better or make you a better person. They want to own your mind so they have power. They don't care about racism, or trans-phobia. They're paranoid drug addicts who want power over what you see, what you hear and now, what you even think.

You're forgetting one thing: they're completely inept. ResetERA can't even mind-control a majority of its own population to boycott Atlus.
 
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Would not be surprised if this poll was bait for issuing massive IP bans. Survey results have uncovered belligerent crimes against the People. It's off to the Gulag with the lot of you.

Anyway, Atlus is now on my "favorite company" list.
 
Also these people are too dumb to realize that director =/= writer. He didn't create the game himself and yet these psychopaths want only him fired.

These troon monsters deserve lots of kicks in the not female testicles.
I wouldn't say they're too dumb, I would say they're going for the biggest mark to make an example with.

I agree with the kicks, though.
 
So I was actually looking into their evidence for the claim that "Katsura Hashino possesses virulently offensive and phobic views on the LGBT community, women, and other groups". If someone really is hateful and promoting violence then I think that's worth pointing out, so I was looking into their claims in 'good faith'.


Reality: They express shock, no disgust, that the character the game labels "Beautiful Lady" is male. They even lament that they struck out ("this sucks... we're 0 for 3".)


Reality: In the linked interview, he says he personally had no female childhood friends so he didn't know how to portray it in the game. Soejima agrees, and literally states that he's open to the idea that it is possible for boys and girls to be childhood friends – which is the exact opposite of this claim. That's literally a forged quote nowhere to be found in the cited interview.


Reality: Yosuke was guilting them into hanging out and swimming with them; he brought up the bit about owing the guys *before* the swimsuits appeared, so it wasn't about owing an exhibitionist display. The only reason they end up in the swimsuits is because they said they'd join if they had swimsuits. The swimsuits weren't some skimpy fetish gear – they were the new releases from the department store. He IS criticised for his actions and punished – the girls get angry and push him into the cold river, and another character is puking upstream. The game encourages you to laugh at him getting what he deserved: girls being angry at him, freezing in cold water, and getting covered in vomit. The joke is that Yosuke thinks he's smooth, but his plots only make girls mad and backfire. I can't believe you have to explain a joke to these people.


Reality: Kanji was bullied by girls and called queer for liking things that weren't stereotypically masculine. He developed a fear of girls as a result. Both of those things led him to worry that he was gay and feel ashamed for hiding his identity. The game instead promotes the message that your hobbies and interests don't need to align stereotypically with your gender, don't determine your sexuality, and your sexuality shouldn't matter – we all fear rejection and just want to be accepted. And if you accept that a person can have any interests regardless of their gender and sexuality, then homosexuality ceases to be an insult to imply someone isn't a real man. But I guess ResetERA wants to put people into little boxes: if you like girl things, you're gay. Or trans.


Reality: He's attracted to Naoto before it's revealed that she's a girl, while she's dressing androgynously and everyone thinks she's a guy. That would imply he's bisexual. But for some reason LGT keep wanting to erase B.

I can't refute the rest because at that point I just stopped reading. They've got about as firm a grasp on the truth as Jussie Smollett.
I wanna post this so bad.
 
I wanna post this so bad.

Well you've got my blessing. But to them, correcting misinformation about the current Public Enemy #1 means that you hold the same beliefs they attribute to him. You're defending a transphobe/nazi/supremacist and who would do that, even if their accusations are false, unless they are one!

You'd get banned because disagreeing == dismissing transwomen's concerns, and all will avoid reading the post when they see that banner so they won't be exposed to wrongthink and contract an illicit doubt.
 
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