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Randy took a twelve million bonus.

Don't defend him, please.
That 12 million was from 2016, and was an advance from 2K. There's nothing shady going on there, not even Schreier's article suggests that.
Don't forget that Pitchford owns 50% of the company. Hence entitled to 30% of the profits.
 
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That 12 million was from 2016, and was an advance from 2K. There's nothing shady going on there, not even Schreier's article suggests that.
Don't forget that Pitchford owns 50% of the company. Hence entitled to 30% of the profits.

He took a twelve million bonus then talked about Borderlands 3 turning the franchise into a billion dollar one, and that it had completely out sold any previous titles in the series.
 
He took a twelve million bonus then talked about Borderlands 3 turning the franchise into a billion dollar one, and that it had completely out sold any previous titles in the series.
And it was by far the most expensive to make. The studio is paying more people higher salaries now than they were back when Borderlands 2 released. Not saying they're hitting the average now (although Schreier doesn't make it clear how up to date those stats are), but that's undeniable.

The game cost 140 million before marketing. Many multiples of Borderlands 2's budget.

The game sold the best in the series, but wasn't commensurate with the budget increase.

Bearing in mind that the devs still got their bonuses, and depending on your calculations, got a decent 5 figure bonus on average. Just not 10s of thousands or the 6 figures that were flying around the studio 7 years ago.

This is all stated in the article.

I get it, Pitchford making 12 million sounds unfair, but the company is completely private, and he owns 50% of it. It makes sense, and I'm not seeing the problem.

And to be clear, if I didn't have to defend Pitchford, I wouldn't. But it's not really just Pitchford this article, and Kotaku are trying to build a narrative against. Not alone, at least.
 
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Doesn't change the fact he jerked off about record profits and billions of dollars. Marketing and development costs wouldn't spring up over night - he strung people along for nearly six years, then suddenly realised a billion wasn't enough to pay everyone?

Come off that shit, man. Ritchy has a history of spewing bullshit.
Wrong.

Record sales. Not profits. And the only guy quoted in this article, specifically about that, but even about anything, is Strauss Zelnick. CEO of 2K, talking to 2K investors.
"Billion dollar brand" is accurate for Borderlands. Zelnick was not talking about Borderlands 3 making a billion dollars. To suggest that Borderlands 3 made a billion dollars by itself is ludicrous on it's face.

Who did he string along for 6 years when Borderlands 3 development started 3 years before 2019?

Read the article.
 
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Wrong.

Record sales. Not profits. And the only guy quoted in this article, specifically about that, but even about anything, is Strauss Zelnick. CEO of 2K, talking to 2K investors.
"Billion dollar brand" is accurate for Borderlands. Zelnick was not talking about Borderlands 3 making a billion dollars. To suggest that Borderlands 3 made a billion dollars by itself is ludicrous on it's face.

Who did he string along for 6 years when Borderlands 3 development started 3 years before 2019?

Read the article.
Defending the honor of a sleazy millionaire is not a great hill to die on.
 
Defending the honor of a sleazy millionaire is not a great hill to die on.
I don’t think anyone is defending the honor of Randy Pitchford, but trying to expose the dishonest reporting in that article. They are claiming that these employees were cheated out of a bigger bonus, but no one, including the people here who are just using this as an opportunity to dunk on the porno magician, seems to be taking into account that these bonuses are based on profits. You can point out sales figures all you want, but if the game was more expensive to produce, then the profit margin is smaller along with the bonuses. It sucks, but that’s how things are sometimes. And I severely doubt that any contract those employees have promises a raw dollar amount for their bonus. This is Business 101 shit.
 
Defending the honor of a sleazy millionaire is not a great hill to die on.
Like I said, I really don't care about Randy Pitchford here. I'll openly say that the guy is quite the sped in many other ways. I mean, the guy looks like a car salesman in a Michael Bay Transformers movie. But that's besides the point here.

If you see me as defending anything, take it as me defending private enterprise away from heavy government regulation or unnecessary unionization in tech. Against the inaccurate, slanted reporting in articles like this, of which Schreier has promulgated multiple times. He did it not 3 weeks ago with Naughty Dog. But no one at Naughty Dog has a "punchable face" in the way Pitchford does.

I'm arguing on behalf of the facts. Anything that defends Pitchford is purely by proxy.
That being said, don't think that Pitchford's PR being so shit isn't cutting in favour of Schreier's illegitimate narrative. I'm reminded of how Joe McCarthy has been painted as the Hollywood boogeyman over the House Un-American Activities Committee, despite the lynchpin of that being Roy Brewer.

It's easy to convince people to argue against Randy Pitchford here, because it's Randy Pitchford. Not because there's anything illegitimate or wrong happening.
 
Personally, I have a hard time believing 3 actually outsold 2. Everyone I know played 2 for at least a year. I know one person who bought 3, and they fizzled out halfway through the main campaign. I'm betting it was some tortured figure like 'best sales for any game in the series (at this point after release (in America))' or something along those lines.
 
Personally, I have a hard time believing 3 actually outsold 2. Everyone I know played 2 for at least a year. I know one person who bought 3, and they fizzled out halfway through the main campaign. I'm betting it was some tortured figure like 'best sales for any game in the series (at this point after release (in America))' or something along those lines.
Whether you play something for a year or a minute, it’s another copy sold, and that’s all that matters.
 
Whether you play something for a year or a minute, it’s another copy sold, and that’s all that matters.
Yeah, but if all your friends have been talking about the same game for six months, a purchase looks way more appealing.

Shit, thinking about it now, I know more people who bought Borderlands 2 for the Vita then I know Borderlands 3 players as a whole.
 
Bonuses based on profits while those claiming millions worth of such are raving about all the sales and money potential.

Nah mate, downplaying that shit is implicitly defending Randy. Not the first time he's tried to screw people over on money.
Pitchford (who hasn't raved about anything), and Strauss Zelnick are not the same as an employee in a team of 350+ people employed and paid salaries by the aforementioned CEOs.

If you can't understand that when counting their money, there's no amount of logic that can convince you of basic realities when it comes to business.

It's also worth mentioning that Plano Texas is a lower cost and income area compared to cities in California (the hub of US game development), and even around 10% cheaper than Austin Texas. Whether that was, or is taken into account when making the statement that they have a lower than average salary is unknown. But it's a factor worth noting here.
 
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Also some bitch who does dog furry art for slipshine :story: is in the thread but I know fuckall about slipshine's can of worms

And in another thread, normies become super based and take a fat shit on reees mad at social interaction with coworkers
Gundato in particular is being super based and telling them that being assholes who openly express how much they hate everyone they work with is why they get treated poorly. Yes, a resetera user tells a poster that they're their own problem. Fuck Wrestlemania, I need the Gundato vs. Excelsiorlef PPV
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DESPITE ALL THE EXPLANATIONS FROM THE WHY WOMEN CRITICIZE THREAD, KSWEELEY DARES TO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT...UGH...HENTAI.
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Another pre-ban screenshot, its some normie hentai memepost but it has the nono tranny word
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Also some bitch who does dog furry art for slipshine :story: is in the thread but I know fuckall about slipshine's can of worms

And in another thread, normies become super based and take a fat shit on reees mad at social interaction with coworkers
Gundato in particular is being super based and telling them that being assholes who openly express how much they hate everyone they work with is why they get treated poorly. Yes, a resetera user tells a poster that they're their own problem. Fuck Wrestlemania, I need the Gundato vs. Excelsiorlef PPV
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User banned: permanent. Exceeding the Hurtful Truth Level
 
Buying guns during an epidemic... it's your money, do what you want, how do freedoms work? But on Resetera?

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Yeah fam, people are just buying guns to randomly shoot negros and get arrested/killed for murder for no reason

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This is your brain on Resetera.
 
DESPITE ALL THE EXPLANATIONS FROM THE WHY WOMEN CRITICIZE THREAD, KSWEELEY DARES TO MAKE A THREAD ABOUT...UGH...HENTAI.
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Don't worry Alex, we've got estrogen and SSRIs ready for all the addicts, it's fiiiine
Another pre-ban screenshot, its some normie hentai memepost but it has the nono tranny word
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Also some bitch who does dog furry art for slipshine :story: is in the thread but I know fuckall about slipshine's can of worms

And in another thread, normies become super based and take a fat shit on reees mad at social interaction with coworkers
Gundato in particular is being super based and telling them that being assholes who openly express how much they hate everyone they work with is why they get treated poorly. Yes, a resetera user tells a poster that they're their own problem. Fuck Wrestlemania, I need the Gundato vs. Excelsiorlef PPV
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That guy literally gave some great advice. Not just for Reeera, but literally anyone in that mindset. The real shame is that everyone he replied to will walk away from that discussion with the opinion he is wrong and they were right to act that way. Such is life on Reee.
 
Buying guns during an epidemic... it's your money, do what you want, how do freedoms work? But on Resetera?

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Yeah fam, people are just buying guns to randomly shoot negros and get arrested/killed for murder for no reason

:story:

This is your brain on Resetera.
The worst part is that the guy they are quoting actually has a point, with the social distancing guidelines and quarantines in some parts of the US, finding a good gun range to familiarize yourself with the firearm you bought(I.E get some target practice in, get some maintenance practice/advice from people who are more familiar with guns then you, practice loading/reloading the weapon, etc)actually IS more difficult then it would be normally, but did anyone give a shit about that? Nope!

The only possible reason to own a gun in these retards minds is because you want to murder ethnic minorities, obviously. Why? Because everyone on Reeera is a fucking retarded moron.
 
Buying guns during an epidemic... it's your money, do what you want, how do freedoms work? But on Resetera?

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Yeah fam, people are just buying guns to randomly shoot negros and get arrested/killed for murder for no reason

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This is your brain on Resetera.
Wait, did that poster say "colored people" and not "people of color"? And they claim it's not a white supremacist forum...
 
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