Netflix is about to rape the Sandman

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Well, finally finished this last night. I don't have any extreme familiarty with the comic, though I know it was still fairly prone to proto-wokeness, the Netflix(tm) Casting is very apparent and undeniably politically motivated. Every single scene has to have an even 50/50 split of whites and darkies, more niggers in England than Chavs at this point, which is pretty much the opposite of 'diverse' far as I'm concerned.

The major exception is, of course, where the villains are concerned. All the bad guys, for some mysterious reason, get to keep their pale complexions. Only white people can be truly evil, after all.
 
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I always thought there was one of each endless because of Martian Manhunter saw Dream ad a different deity.
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It's inconsistent. Scott Free, a Genesisian raised on Apokolips, sees Morpheus, the Earth version of Dream seen in the present day and throughout history. J'onn J'onnz, a Martian, sees the Martian god of Dreams. So in that story there's one entity localized in space and time, and everyone sees him differently, though there's not necessarily any logic in what they see.

When Dream discusses his existence, and when he encounters different aspects of himself in Overture, it seems that each aspect (hypostasis, prosopon, whatever) has individual experiences and is not aware of the others' experiences. For example, they are not aware that an aspect of Dream has died. When Morpheus encounters Dream of the First Ones, he doesn't recognize him, and later says he has forgotten he used to be him. So these aspects operate independently and simultaneously across space. They apparently share memories from earlier versions of Dream, but there's no lateral communication among them. However, in the Element Girl story, Death seems to be aware of her other aspects and exactly what they're doing across the universe. Destiny briefly sees different aspects of himself in The Kindly Ones but they disappear, and he seems to be convinced there can be only one Destiny.

More weirdness from Death: She appears to Orpheus as a 1980s Goth girl with goldfish named Slim and Wandsworth. It's a fun nod to Didi, but makes no sense in any version of the story logic.
 
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Good news, they've already confirmed what everyone knew, that A Game Of You will be butchered since if it aired as it originally was the trans mob would riot.

I look forwards to the changes being terrible.


Kirby Howell-Baptiste teases The Sandman season 2 and how author Neil Gaiman adjusted the story following audience feedback. Season 1 of the Netflix fantasy show brought Gaiman's celebrated graphic novel to the screen after a lengthy development process, introducing a world of magic, devils, and entities that personify core concepts of reality. Receiving widespread acclaim from critics and audiences alike, season 2 of The Sandman began filming in June 2023, though production would pause until November in accordance with the SAG-AFTRA strike actions.

Howell-Baptiste recently opened up to Collider about how The Sandman season 2 has made improvements to Gaiman's previous works. She highlighted how Gaiman has paid attention to fan reception, both good and bad, to ensure that the new episodes are of the best quality, promising that the expanded dynamics will leave viewers pleased. Check out Howell-Baptiste's full explanation below:

“It's been fantastic going back actually, because this season, I think fans will be very excited for the episodes. It feels like the show is a two-way street, it's not just us putting something out, it's Neil listening, responding to the fans, and then in turn giving them the things that they are asking for, yelling for, begging for. So I think fans are gonna be really excited to have these stories expanded and have the complexities, and the family and, and all of those dynamics, see them even more this season, this continuation of episodes.”
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As The Sandman received widespread acclaim for bringing the events of the first two volumes to screen, season 2 already has high standards to live up to. The series grapples with a number of complex concepts alongside its very human stories, and that will continue in the upcoming episodes. Gaiman has already confirmed that future episodes will adapt one of The Sandman's most notable characters to screen, making her debut highly anticipated.


Gaiman revealed The Sandman 's return will feature an adaptation of "A Game of You," thus introducing Wanda.
Gaiman revealed The Sandman's return will feature an adaptation of "A Game of You," thus introducing Wanda, a friend and neighbor to Barbie following her move to New York City. In this arc, Wanda's identity as a transgender woman was explored and provided much-needed, groundbreaking representation that continues to stand out among other explorations of the LGBTQ+ experience. Gaiman added that Wanda's tale will be handled with the appropriate care it deserves on-screen and within the writers room.

Despite fears over how The Sandman may be impacted after the 2023 WGA strike, it is clear Gaiman has continued to take incredible care in adapting the graphic novel. Howell-Baptiste's comments confirm how Gaiman, who actively converses with fans across social media, has improved on the elements that didn't work within either the source material or the first episodes. Hopefully, The Sandman will leave viewers pleased.
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Morethanabitfoolish said:
Good news, they've already confirmed what everyone knew, that A Game Of You will be butchered since if it aired as it originally was the trans mob would riot.
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Oh brother.
Gaiman, I know you're probably tempted to change up things with this story, but you really don't have to.
You may be tempted to keep Wanda alive, since killing off a trans character would be a bad look.
But I dare you to come up with a more powerful and sympathetic pro-trans gesture than Barbie scratching out the deadname on Wanda's tombstone and writing her new name on it. In direct opposition of her transphobic family, no less.
That'd be a legitimate loss if there ever was one.
 
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Oh brother.
Gaiman, I know you're probably tempted to change up things with this story, but you really don't have to.
You may be tempted to keep Wanda alive, since killing off a trans character would be a bad look.
But I dare you to come up with a more powerful and sympathetic pro-trans gesture than Barbie scratching out the deadname on Wanda's tombstone and writing her new name on it. In direct opposition of her transphobic family, no less.
That'd be a legitimate loss if there ever was one.
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That'll stay in. What'll go out is being told that magic doesn't care what your self is, the spell that that particular witch learnt was a biological girls only one. The screams would be overwhelming
 
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She highlighted how Gaiman has paid attention to fan reception, both good and bad, to ensure that the new episodes are of the best quality
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Season 2 is going to start with Death's once-a-century mortal day, so they can kill her off and bring her back as the goth chick? I know that's not exactly how the Endless work, but I doubt the series will reach the point where the different aspects matter.

The existence of this thing is so forgettable someone mentioned "Sandman, it's a show on Netflix" to me last week and I didn't know what they were talking about.
 
For those wondering if the show was dead after Gaiman got Me Too'd here's some cast updates


Since I know what Kiwi Farms likes I won't post the whole thing.

Puck is Joffrey from Game of Thrones
Rest of the Endless have been cast, the racial variety they liked to brag about that only racists would hate means black people and white people. Fuck you every other ethnicity.
Wanda is cast and for those wondering yes, it's someone who's transgender.
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Hilariously based off these behind the scenes shots it looks like Dream will also be involved in the scene when Death escorts Wanda off to the afterlife. Why is he there? Who the fuck knows.

 
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Interesting that Loki, Thor, Delirium, and Destruction aren't black. At least they got Wanda. And we never see Destiny's hair, but we can pretend he was a ginger in the comics.
 
I've owned the 3 big omnibuses for years but never actually read them. Not sure what I was thinking, A friend always recommended them and I had too much disposable income at the time I suppose. They do look nice.
Reading the first one now and overall it's alright but it's so tiresome with its constant need to try and subvert things. Like oh shit Dream is pissed and going to get revenge! Uh no revenge is bad actually and he's just going to give the guy nice dreams. And it's just constantly trying to do that kind of thing. Also the art really takes a nosedive after Sam Kieth leaves which is a real shame as that's one of the reasons to keep reading at the start.
Also Gaiman has a real fetish for just inserting faggots constantly to a ridiculous degree. Not sure if it was just for shock value or not but I'm sure these days he would claim it was for representation and what not. In that regard it's right at home at Netflix.
He also really dislikes the Norse pantheon. Wonder why.
Anyway I'm not watching this gay show.
 
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"Sources" claim this was the plan before the accusations came out, but Season 2 is the end.

Neil Gaiman’s ‘The Sandman’ to End With Season 2 at Netflix | Archive

Netflix’s adaptation of Neil Gaiman‘s “The Sandman” will end with its upcoming second season.

“The Sandman” Season 2 has been a long time coming. The first season debuted in August 2022, and it wasn’t renewed at Netflix until November of that year. At that time, Netflix was also hesitant to label it as a second season at all, choosing instead to say it was “a continuation of ‘The Sandman’ world,” and wouldn’t commit to an episode count. Variety has confirmed the second season was intended to be the last prior to filming.

“‘The Sandman’ series has always been focused exclusively on Dream’s story, and back in 2022, when we looked at the remaining Dream material from the comics, we knew we only had enough story for one more season,” “The Sandman” showrunner Allan Heinberg said in a statement to Variety Friday. “We are extremely grateful to Netflix for bringing the team all back together and giving us the time and resources to make a faithful adaptation in a way that we hope will surprise and delight the comics’ loyal readers as well as fans of our show.”

The release plan for Season 2 will not be impacted by the cancellation and the episodes are still set for a 2025 release.


Confirmation of the show’s conclusion comes on the heels of several sexual misconduct accusations leveled at Gaiman, who created “The Sandman” DC comics and developed the TV series. However, prior to the accusations first leveled against Gaiman in a Tortoise Media podcast in July 2024, sources close to “The Sandman” were already telling Variety the pricey series, produced by Warner Bros. Television for Netflix, was intending to end with its second season when production was underway in summer 2023. The reveal of Season 2 characters that were cast in May 2024 further indicated the series was jumping to the end of the comics much sooner than fans anticipated.


Following the sexual misconduct accusations, Gaiman has departed Amazon’s upcoming final season of the “Good Omens” TV adaptation, and development paused on a movie based on his “The Graveyard Book” at Disney. Most recently, Gaiman was dropped by his longtime comic book publisher Dark Horse and had his “Coraline” musical scrapped.


The second season of “The Sandman” follows the “Season of Mists” storyline from Gaiman’s comics, in which Lucifer (Gwendoline Christie) abdicates control of Hell and presents Morpheus, aka Dream (Tom Sturridge), with the key to its gates, causing many immortals to try to convince Morpheus to give the key to them.

Joining for Season 2 are Esmé Creed-Miles as Delirium, Adrian Lester as Destiny, Barry Sloane as “The Prodigal,” Ruairi O’Connor as Orpheus, Freddie Fox as Loki, Clive Russell as Odin, Laurence O’Fuarain as Thor, Ann Skelly as Nuala, Douglas Booth as Cluracan and Jack Gleeson as Puck, Indya Moore as Wanda and Steve Coogan as the voice of Barnabas the dog.


Among the Season 1 cast members returning for “The Sandman” Season 2 are Patton Oswalt as Matthew the Raven, Vivienne Acheampong as Lucienne, Christie as Lucifer Morningstar, Jenna Coleman as Johanna Constantine, Ferdinand Kingsley as Hob Gadling, Stephen Fry as Gilbert, Asim Chaudhry as Abel, Sanjeev Bhaskar as Cain, Vanesu Samunyai as Rose Walker and Razane Jammal as Lyta Hall.


“The Sandman” was developed by Gaiman, showrunner Heinberg and David S. Goyer based on the DC comics of the same name by Gaiman, Sam Keith and Mike Dringenberg. All episodes of Season 2 were directed by Jamie Childs.


Netflix has not responded to request for comment on the accusations against Gaiman.


See the first-look at second and final season of “The Sandman” below.
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You know, while I really liked the comic, I find funny Gaiman puts the trans character as an attractive woman when they die and meet death, wouldnt that be transphobic? "You are only a real woman after you die" and "you need to be an attractive woman to count?"

Edit: I also really like this page with Dee, and I find hilarious the imortal dude telling that black girl hes dating that one random monarch (cant remember which ) was black, because people think that "ruler of european country during the peak of colonialism is black" makes it any better?

Found it, Catherine of Aragon. So you think it was empowering when this black queen expelled all the jews and overseen the colonization of the americas, Neil?
 

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The one Sandman story I can actively remember is Calliope. I have to really think about any others before they come to mind. I suppose it has to do with being 30 years since the last time I read them, but Calliope has always stuck with me for some reason.
 
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