Plagued Nice Guys

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Seriously, this sounds like something Nick Bate would say.
 
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butt in trouble said:
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Seriously, this sounds like something Nick Bate would say.
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He would probably defend himself by saying "But we were BOTH kids! So I'm not a pedophile!!!" but the reality is he's practically slobbering over the image of her prepubescent self. He's not musing over how hot she is, he's musing over how hot she was.

Also, there's the line "I'd probably still bang 4th grade you if I met her right now." Which is one of the most pedophiliac things a person can say.
 
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Super Collie said:
Reading this thread makes me paranoid that I unintentionally friendzoned people when I was in high school and college. :c
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I wouldn't worry about it. Statistically, most people meet their future significant others through their mutual friends, so a guy having a few good female friends would probably increase his chances of meeting someone
 
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Cosmos said:
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Say it with me, ladies: Swoon.

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"If he is unarmed, he may as well be unarmed."

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Aside from the awesome callout in the comments, can we just appreciate that this Nice Guy just called women "dumb bitches"? And that the image macro was from fucking 9gag?

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Girl: Can you help me with math? I would really appreciate it!
Nice Guy: Of course, m'lady!
start studying math, girl casually brings up her boyfriend
Nice Guy: Typical female behavior, always having an ulterior motive. She's totally using me! And after I got my hopes up that she would give me a blowjob!

Also, a great commenter on the subreddit where I found this had this to say: "Interesting how much people who have ulterior motives for friendship are shocked when other people don't have ulterior motives for friendship."

And I saved the cringiest for last. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you "Niceguy sends 5 page love letter to my friend after she tells him to leave her alone, complete with quotes from his own book."
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Is there a cliff notes or tl;dr version of the 5 page letter? I could only read the 1st page b4 I died of the letter writer's autism.
 
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Is there a cliff notes or tl;dr version of the 5 page letter? I could only read the 1st page b4 I died of the letter writer's autism.
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Honestly, I could only skim it because it was making me cringe so hard my face nearly imploded. But I'm doing this for the Farms, so that you guys to have to suffer how I've suffered. Here are a few points of summary:
  • The most notable thing is that the essay (because yes, it is a fucking essay) is liberally sprinkled with excerpts from his own book, The Continuum (a fact supplied by the person who originally posted the letter). It took me a bit to get it, but the book is actually about him and his crush. The first few quotes are just philosophical drivel that can be about anything, but later passages explicitly refer to an "Emily" (and the letter itself is addressed to an Emily) and seem to correlate with what he's talking about. Dude is quoting from a book about his feelings for her in a letter about his feelings for her. What.
  • He also devotes an entire fucking page to, due to how MATURE and NOT LIKE THE OTHER GIRLS BOYS he is, he has few friends his age, the recipient of the letter being one of the few. He feels the need to stress this point multiple times.
  • He spends a lot of time bragging about how smart he is.
  • He also mentions a "[I think] one-way lover" (brackets included in the original text), which is a really fucking weird way to refer to someone who has a crush on you. He's also probably reading too much into it, considering that he himself says he isn't 100% sure this girl is into him in the letter.
  • Apparently, Gentlesir and his lady love have had "debates" (probably more like arguments) in the past. This is something that needs to be quoted in its entirety: "I know I have pushed you and we have had a lot of arguments/debates. I also know at times I have been mean; some of the holes I have guided you into. I have never done it to prove any kind of superiority. I learned at an early age the importance of not only 'knowing' but also having the ability to present and defend that through a verbal argument. Plus of course [in my opinion] the best way of building understanding is to challenge opinions and perceived facts' in order to build a fuller picture. I hope you have never taken any of our arguments/debates personally. And I am very sorry if in the past you have." So what I think he's getting at is that he's a stereotypical neckbeard who picks fights with people in a pathetic attempt to prove his intellectual superiority.
  • He seems to have an exact date for everything. Weird.
  • Okay, seriously, these book excerpts are so fucking awful. And no, I'm not giving them the dignity of quoting them or even summarizing them.
Honestly, as painful as this all is, I think his feelings are legitimate (as in he's not just using her as an outlet for sex). They're childhood friends, so it's not like he befriended her for the sole purpose of getting in her pants. On the other hand, he himself states multiple times throughout the letter that they grew apart quite some time ago and she seems uninterested in rekindling their friendship. If she's not even interested in being friends, it's pretty clear she wouldn't be interested in OP as a boyfriend lover.

I can't believe I took the time to do this, wtf is wrong with me.
 
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The sooner you realise the only commonality between all the girls rejecting you is YOU, and that the reason girls don't like you isn't just because you're ugly on the outside but also on the inside, that you're a boring and unintelligent person, and that it's okay to hate yourself as long as you don't allow that hate to spill onto someone else just because they don't like you, the better.
Take it from me, mate.
 
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butt in trouble said:
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It has all the trappings of a nice guy.
-Ridiculously high standards
-Messaging someone out of the blue He's never personally met. Women just LOVE that.
-Inability to understand what "no" means.
-Guilt tripping. "Oh is it because I'm not hot?"
-Goes from 0 to 100 in an instant. Confesses his love for her on the THIRD FUCKING MESSAGE he sent her.
-Believes she is making a terrible mistake by not dating him.
-Goes full Elliot Rogers and talks how mean all those jock guys are.
-Near the end of the chat he makes it clear he just wants sex but still tries to keep the whole nice guy act going.
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Holy shit, that is 100% the mentality of a potential serial killer. I mean most (translation: all) "Nice Guys" just get bitter and/or really angry when they get rejected, but this guy has the confidence of a serial killer. He was rejected politely, then rejected aggressively and still kept coming, like he believed they are destined.
 
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Spelling Bee said:
I'm not sure if someone has mentioned this already but while there's plenty of nice guys and stupid people regardless of gender on OKC, I'm pretty sure pictures like these are made up.
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I'm sure quite a few of them are just matching up real quotes with people who look like they'd say them. If nice guys were this easy to identify by sight irl, it'd be great.
 
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butt in trouble said:
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Seriously, this sounds like something Nick Bate would say.
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I cringed very hard reading this shit.

Cosmos said:
He would probably defend himself by saying "But we were BOTH kids! So I'm not a pedophile!!!" but the reality is he's practically slobbering over the image of her prepubescent self. He's not musing over how hot she is, he's musing over how hot she was.

Also, there's the line "I'd probably still bang 4th grade you if I met her right now." Which is one of the most pedophiliac things a person can say.
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It is. How the fuck did he not realize this shit? I feel bad for her for engaging in that conversation.
 
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scorptatious said:
You ever notice how a lot of these "nice guys" are attracted to victims of cheating and abuse?
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Damsel-in-distress/white knight fantasy, really. Dating a victim of cheating/abuse means you're rescuing her from a monster and then living happily ever after. It's probably why Nice Guys obsess over chivalry and say "m'lady."

Nothing wrong with wanting to help someone, of course, but these guys seem more interested in the damsel rewarding them for their efforts, as opposed to genuinely helping a fellow human being through hard times. They want a fairy tale, not a relationship.
 
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scorptatious said:
You ever notice how a lot of these "nice guys" are attracted to victims of cheating and abuse?
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I largely agree with SamTheEagle's idea but think in some cases it may be more insidious than that.

Okay, so, a fact about abuse survivors (especially women) is that they tend to develop more submissive mannerisms during/after the abuse. And a "nice guy", if he knows this, may suspect that a crush who's a more passive person is easier to get a date with, cause they're less comfortable saying no to people. So in the case that a girl does say no, when the guy rants that there's something wrong with her because she doesn't like him, it's because he wants to guilt her into a "yes" and to make her question her judgment. If he calls her abusive, as the one in your picture did, it's especially fucked up because he's appealing to her darker fears about "continuing the cycle". The "nice guy's" complaint is itself a form of emotional abuse that'd likely continue in a relationship between the pair.

When I was a kid my parents had the exact sort of guilt-trippy power dynamic described above, and after watching the effects on my mom it grinds my gears extra hard to watch guys do this routine and have the nerve to call themselves nice just because their methods of abuse don't involve domestic violence.

sorry i just made this thread get real dark, quick someone post a nice meme
 
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Magnum Dong said:
I largely agree with SamTheEagle's idea but think in some cases it may be more insidious than that.

Okay, so, a fact about abuse survivors (especially women) is that they tend to develop more submissive mannerisms during/after the abuse. And a "nice guy", if he knows this, may suspect that a crush who's a more passive person is easier to get a date with, cause they're less comfortable saying no to people. So in the case that a girl does say no, when the guy rants that there's something wrong with her because she doesn't like him, it's because he wants to guilt her into a "yes" and to make her question her judgment. If he calls her abusive, as the one in your picture did, it's especially fucked up because he's appealing to her darker fears about "continuing the cycle". The "nice guy's" complaint is itself a form of emotional abuse that'd likely continue in a relationship between the pair.

When I was a kid my parents had the exact sort of guilt-trippy power dynamic described above, and after watching the effects on my mom it grinds my gears extra hard to watch guys do this routine and have the nerve to call themselves nice just because their methods of abuse don't involve domestic violence.

sorry i just made this thread get real dark, quick someone post a nice meme
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Many of the dudes in this thread are not physically abusive, but sure as shit are emotionally abusive, and that can be worse in some ways, because that's not always recognized as abuse. Someone hauls off and clocks you across the face, yeah, pretty much everyone's gonna call that abuse, but a douchebag who preys on your insecurities and manipulates you can go undetected. There's nothing nice about Nice Guys. If they were truly nice, they wouldn't have their massive sense of entitlement.
 
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