Plagued Nice Guys

[Duke Nukem]

I know a guy who's got some degree of Nice Guy Syndrome who turned 30 and is still posting public stuff about his single status. He's not the stereotypical fedora wearing obese neckbeard but I have told him it's a bad idea to air such things to the public. I'll go on record and say that not all guys who want a girlfriend or relationship, but have no luck with it are bad people or affected by NGS in any substantial way, but it can raise some questions if you're somewhat consistent about it like this one is.

He does have friends and is in a band and stuff, so he does have more going for him than most of the guys discussed in this thread, but he's getting dangerously close to becoming an NG himself if he doesn't back up and realize that such posts may turn off potential suitors. Come to think of it, 30 seems to be the "cutoff age" for chances with women in a lot of these guys' minds, I'm not exactly sure why...maybe they just think "everyone else" already has paired up and it's too late?

 

[DrJonesHat]

Come to think of it, 30 seems to be the "cutoff age" for chances with women in a lot of these guys' minds, I'm not exactly sure why...maybe they just think "everyone else" already has paired up and it's too late?

It's an arbitrary number. The reason they consider it a deal breaker is that they view women in their 30s and above as past their sell-by date, and most women in their 20s prefer men their own age, as is normal for most people, regardless of gender.

 

[MarineTrainedTard]

Yeah basically that. They have this very binary, concrete, some might say autistic view of the situation where if you are 30+, that's the hard and fast line for life basically being over. A 30 year old woman might as well be 90 and a 30+ year old man is apparently incapable of doing fun, enjoyable things because they are old. They will then post pictures of average 30 year old women without makeup next to pictures of 20-year-old celebrities who are engaging in professional photo shoots as "proof", totally disregarding that those celebrities are wearing a lot of makeup and are under carefully arranged lighting.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I can assure all concerned that life does not end at 30 or even 40. You're not old until you're eligible for social security. These guys are gonna be miserable if they hit 30 and just give up at that point. It'll be a purely self-inflicted wound and they have only themselves to blame.

 

[BT 075]

I can assure all concerned that life does not end at 30 or even 40.

Very true.

I am in my early twenties now and I am actually looking forward tremendously to the time I'm in my forties or fifties. Not only will my kids have left the house by then, but I also expect to be better off financially. I'll buy a little boat, sail around and shit, have a good time. Maybe travel the world with Mrs. Satan. Plus when you're a guy in your golden years, you can do the whole George Clooney thing, grow out your salt and pepper hair and look super distinguished.

So, in about thirty years from now I will probably be better looking, richer and happier then I am now. And I say that, as a guy who is currently pretty damn happy. Life is only as bad as you make it out to be. As long as you stay healthy, and keep setting goals for yourselves, your best years are most likely still ahead of you, rather then behind you.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I'm 41 and have a lot of things left to do on my list. Rigid worldviews are bad for you, be it SJW, MRA, or whatever. Life experiences do not fit into neat little holes like those belief systems require. Nice Guys are no exception to this rule.

 

[An Sionnach Seang]

As long as you stay healthy, and keep setting goals for yourselves, your best years are most likely still ahead of you, rather then behind you.

amen to that!

 

[Chemical snorfare]

nice guy anthem

 

[TowinKarz]

If you're going to build your life and self-worth around sex, like NGs do, then life really is over at 30. That's when most people have turned to the long-term goals in their life, career, family, hobbies, as more important than casual sex earned through youthful ignorance and good looks. Not as a hard-and-fast rule, but definitely in general.

Nice Guy has none of that to back him up, and realizes that middle-age is going to strip him of the only bargaining chip he had left, youthful ignorance and looks.

That's why they panic.

 

[Duke Nukem]

If you're going to build your life and self-worth around sex, like NGs do, then life really is over at 30. That's when most people have turned to the long-term goals in their life, career, family, hobbies, as more important than casual sex earned through youthful ignorance and good looks. Not as a hard-and-fast rule, but definitely in general.

Nice Guy has none of that to back him up, and realizes that middle-age is going to strip him of the only bargaining chip he had left, youthful ignorance and looks.

That's why they panic.

The one I know is 30 and still lives with his parents and works at Wal-Mart in a minimum wage position. At least he's got a job I guess. He publicly posts on Facebook "I'm 30 and still single why the fuck am I still single" type stuff all the time though. He's also a short, overweight Korean adoptee which probably doesn't help his case looks wise but I honestly don't think it's an automatic disqualification.

 

[Brandobaris]

Very true.

I am in my early twenties now and I am actually looking forward tremendously to the time I'm in my forties or fifties. Not only will my kids have left the house by then, but I also expect to be better off financially. I'll buy a little boat, sail around and shit, have a good time. Maybe travel the world with Mrs. Satan. Plus when you're a guy in your golden years, you can do the whole George Clooney thing, grow out your salt and pepper hair and look super distinguished.

So, in about thirty years from now I will probably be better looking, richer and happier then I am now. And I say that, as a guy who is currently pretty damn happy. Life is only as bad as you make it out to be. As long as you stay healthy, and keep setting goals for yourselves, your best years are most likely still ahead of you, rather then behind you.

I'm 41 and have a lot of things left to do on my list. Rigid worldviews are bad for you, be it SJW, MRA, or whatever. Life experiences do not fit into neat little holes like those belief systems require. Nice Guys are no exception to this rule.

I know you can sometimes think that "how can people be like this, if only they pulled themselves together..." if it could happen then the world would be fine and everyone would be sailing in yachts around the coastline with babes hanging off their arms.

The simple fact is, life isn't fair, people are stupider than you, uglier than you, have mental illnesses, perhaps have PTSD or other issues due to things happening to themselves when they are younger. And they will have a shittier life than you, and there is nothing, they, you, or anyone else can do about it. They will hold up sex as the Holy Grail of life, and then once they have that, they will think they are hot stuff and think they can find a hotter girl to have sex with. If they don't get sex, then they will spiral into bitterness, hatred and depression.

That's life of Nice Guys™

 

[Argonian Scum]

They will hold up sex as the Holy Grail of life, and then once they have that, they will think they are hot stuff and think they can find a hotter girl to have sex with. If they don't get sex, then they will spiral into bitterness, hatred and depression.
That's life of Nice Guys™

Nice Guys and their parents let Uncle TV and Aunt Annie May do the child rearing. They grow up with this idea that life for a young man means acting like a stock character (hopeless romantic nerd, 'lovable' asshole bad boy, peppy class clown, they'll try them all at least once) until some dimepiece falls in love/lust with them and... then what? Happily ever after, roll credits.
The Nice Guy assumes that everything will just magically fall into place in a post-GF euphoria because he's never made to think past that end goal, let alone experience it.

 

[Cosmos]

I'm going to repeat this whenever I hear the "nice guys finish last" line, it's too perfect.

I'm guessing most of them?

"But you're not really that nice"

"Date me instead, I'm an insufferable hipster who complains about everything mainstream."

 

[GV 998]

Very slight powerleveling ahead: I have a friend that keeps messaging me on how to talk to this girl and freaks the fuck out and fucking spams me if she doesn't reply to him in like 10 mins.

A part of me wants to tell him to "hey stop being a faggot dude" and the other part just wants to unleash him and see how he handles it on his own. I have heard shit that she will probably cheat on him like she did the last......3 guys.

Honestly I think this might be a good learning experience for him, because if he is somehow fucking successful in dating her, then he will get his heart crushed and realize that women aren't innocent goddesses. Although he already admits its his own social ineptitude that keeps him from getting a girl and not because he is "too nice" So I guess that is a start.

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This screenshot isn't him, but some other guy that decided sharing this on FB was a good idea.

Never interrupt someone while they are making a fool of themselves. Sure, you might save them some embarrassment, but you are depriving them of a life lesson that they will not get any other way, no matter HOW good someone else's advice is.

There's no better teacher than experience

 

[Brandobaris]

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"Date me instead, I'm an insufferable hipster who complains about everything mainstream."

Wait is nice GIRL a thing....?

Actually, come to think of it, from my experience, Gothic Lolita communities are probably closest to "Nice Girls". (Slight powerlevel) From my experience in the communities, many are former Anime fans/Cosplayers they range in looks 4-7, but consider themselves to hit WAY above their league, and are constantly complaining about not getting one of the "good ones" (ie cashed up, big career ahead of them, attractive) that they can show off to the other girls (which they usually hate/jealous of, but the only people they know are in the community so they need the social contacts). They'll be able to snag some hottie on tinder for the night for a shag, but they are always hoping the hottie stays around and wants to be their trophy b/f, which never happens.

They simply won't accept any guys within their league at all and consider them losers/creepy (even though their interests cross over a lot). Alot of them have issues, some diagnosed, some not. I was at a meet once where there was a guy there, and 5 minutes after the guys g/f walked to the bathroom, one of them simply walked over and grabbed his ass. I found a lot have real submissive streaks, one of them I heard asked her ex b/f to break into her house, and choke her out and rape her, because she loved not being in control. While one confessed to me she wanted to tie a guy to a bed and force feed him viagra so she could ride him for as long as she liked.

Another time I recall, they all got drunk and high at meet and a whole bunch basically ended up dry humping one of the girls b/fs with the g/f present, one ended up having sex with him and when the b/f ended up cumming in the girl, THAT'S when the g/f got mad.

Maybe someone else can shed more light on this sort of thing.

 

[Chemical snorfare]

can we get an actual nice guy rating for this thread?

 

[Brandobaris]

can we get an actual nice guy rating for this thread?

 

[HG 400]

(Slight powerlevel)

You're a dead man now.

 

[CatParty]

Wait is nice GIRL a thing....?

Actually, come to think of it, from my experience, Gothic Lolita communities are probably closest to "Nice Girls". (Slight powerlevel) From my experience in the communities, many are former Anime fans/Cosplayers they range in looks 4-7, but consider themselves to hit WAY above their league, and are constantly complaining about not getting one of the "good ones" (ie cashed up, big career ahead of them, attractive) that they can show off to the other girls (which they usually hate/jealous of, but the only people they know are in the community so they need the social contacts). They'll be able to snag some hottie on tinder for the night for a shag, but they are always hoping the hottie stays around and wants to be their trophy b/f, which never happens.

They simply won't accept any guys within their league at all and consider them losers/creepy (even though their interests cross over a lot). Alot of them have issues, some diagnosed, some not. I was at a meet once where there was a guy there, and 5 minutes after the guys g/f walked to the bathroom, one of them simply walked over and grabbed his ass. I found a lot have real submissive streaks, one of them I heard asked her ex b/f to break into her house, and choke her out and rape her, because she loved not being in control. While one confessed to me she wanted to tie a guy to a bed and force feed him viagra so she could ride him for as long as she liked.

Another time I recall, they all got drunk and high at meet and a whole bunch basically ended up dry humping one of the girls b/fs with the g/f present, one ended up having sex with him and when the b/f ended up cumming in the girl, THAT'S when the g/f got mad.

Maybe someone else can shed more light on this sort of thing.

Lol calm down

 

[The Great Chandler]

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"Date me instead, I'm an insufferable hipster who complains about everything mainstream."

This is nice guy's "asshole" to nice girl's "whores".