Plagued Nice Guys

[Darwin Watterson]

It's a bit stupid to do, but when someone you've been with for a long time who you're apart from a fair amount of the time does it, in a way it is kinda cute. They care and they're making an effort to communicate that. My partner and I actually had this exact same discussion last night and he said exactly the same thing as you have.

The "nice guys", who do it to describe their every action over text? It's cringey. Especially with people you don't know. They'll most likely do it to anyone (in an informal setting. I doubt they do it to teachers/their boss), especially women, despite having just met them. There's some people who are into that, granted. But usually those people are 14 and live on Deviantart.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Though, I DO enjoy the idea of them doing it to their boss.

*blushes, and looks nervous*
Umm...boss?
*starts fidgeting and wringing my hands*
I uh...I can't come into work tomorrow...
*widens my eyes as I realize what I just said; no turning back now*
Be...be...BECAUSEIMSICK!!
*hurriedly clasps my hands over my mouth as soon as I finish blurting out my reasoning for missing work tomorrow*

 

[DrJonesHat]

there's...a certain logic to this, I will admit.

However, just because you're a lonely NEET who fancies himself a "Nice Guy", does not automatically make you a good father. In fact, I'd venture to say most of these guys would be terrible fathers. My proof for this statement is simply that they have zero patience. Look at all these images we've posted. These guys turn into impotent little rage-a-holics the SECOND their pickup attempt goes south. Or if the girl in question doesn't message them back fast enough.

And they think they'd be patient enough to be a father?!

I also hate how they reduce the complexity of human relationships to mere biological urges. We are more than the sum of our parts, and to say otherwise is dehumanizing.

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Though, I DO enjoy the idea of them doing it to their boss.

*blushes, and looks nervous*
Umm...boss?
*starts fidgeting and wringing my hands*
I uh...I can't come into work tomorrow...
*widens my eyes as I realize what I just said; no turning back now*
Be...be...BECAUSEIMSICK!!
*hurriedly clasps my hands over my mouth as soon as I finish blurting out my reasoning for missing work tomorrow*

I have worked with people I can picture doing that. I'm sure we all have.

 

[GV 998]

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. Though, I DO enjoy the idea of them doing it to their boss.

*blushes, and looks nervous*
Umm...boss?
*starts fidgeting and wringing my hands*
I uh...I can't come into work tomorrow...
*widens my eyes as I realize what I just said; no turning back now*
Be...be...BECAUSEIMSICK!!
*hurriedly clasps my hands over my mouth as soon as I finish blurting out my reasoning for missing work tomorrow*

...Do they all think they're 14 year old girls in an anime? Because honestly, no one acts like this except in anime. Not that I'd really be surprised that "Nice Guys" think this is normal, charming behavior

 

[Cosmos]

"My darkie waifu"

In what reality is it acceptable to say something like that to another person? I can't even get past that to focus on the cringey roleplaying.

 

[DrJonesHat]

Actually, research has been done and the "alpha male" behavior exposed by PUAs is actually very frightening to women. Sometimes they go along with it because they're genuinely afraid of what might happen if they say no. Even if they're not afraid, it's extremely insulting for a near-total stranger to act like he has authority over a woman. If it's an established relationship, and she's into being submissive, that's fine, but even then there are rules. And it's not just women that this fake macho behavior repels. Nothing destroys my respect for someone faster than if they start with the caveman posturing for dominance.

 

[Viridian]

Actually, research has been done and the "alpha male" behavior exposed by PUAs is actually very frightening to women. Sometimes they go along with it because they're genuinely afraid of what might happen if they say no. Even if they're not afraid, it's extremely insulting for a near-total stranger to act like he has authority over a woman. If it's an established relationship, and she's into being submissive, that's fine, but even then there are rules. And it's not just women that this fake macho behavior repels. Nothing destroys my respect for someone faster than if they start with the caveman posturing for dominance.

Speaking as a woman, can confirm. Sometimes it's just safest to smile, nod, accept the offered number, then GTFO rather than try to turn down a guy in public. Even if they don't do anything violent in response, getting harassed for the rest of the night about "omg why won't you give me a chance/why are you such a stuck up bitch/you're fat and ugly and a slut anyways" is a sure fire way to ruin a night out. "Nice Guys" are some of the worst offenders of this. You think they go nuts over text? Whoo boy, seeing one melt down in person on you for saying 'no' is even more dramatic.

Somewhat off-topic, but I like to show this video to people who buy into the PUA definition of an "alpha male":

 

[Cosmos]

Actually, research has been done and the "alpha male" behavior exposed by PUAs is actually very frightening to women. Sometimes they go along with it because they're genuinely afraid of what might happen if they say no. Even if they're not afraid, it's extremely insulting for a near-total stranger to act like he has authority over a woman. If it's an established relationship, and she's into being submissive, that's fine, but even then there are rules. And it's not just women that this fake macho behavior repels. Nothing destroys my respect for someone faster than if they start with the caveman posturing for dominance.

It just shows how out of touch with reality these dudes are. Who in their right mind would enjoy a complete stranger (who will usually be bigger/stronger than you) coming up to you, being super pushy and intense, and acting like he has total authority over you? It’s annoying at best and outright threatening and scary at worst.

Most of the women who seem turned on by that behavior are probably planning the best escape route in their heads.

 

[Butta Face Lopez]

Actually, research has been done and the "alpha male" behavior exposed by PUAs is actually very frightening to women. Sometimes they go along with it because they're genuinely afraid of what might happen if they say no. Even if they're not afraid, it's extremely insulting for a near-total stranger to act like he has authority over a woman. If it's an established relationship, and she's into being submissive, that's fine, but even then there are rules. And it's not just women that this fake macho behavior repels. Nothing destroys my respect for someone faster than if they start with the caveman posturing for dominance.

Would you say they're frightened...because of the implication?

 

[vertexwindi]

It just shows how out of touch with reality these dudes are. Who in their right mind would enjoy a complete stranger (who will usually be bigger/stronger than you) coming up to you, being super pushy and intense, and acting like he has total authority over you? It’s annoying at best and outright threatening and scary at worst.

Most of the women who seem turned on by that behavior are probably planning the best escape route in their heads.

That or they'll stab you in your sleep.

 

[Overcast]

Would you say they're frightened...because of the implication?

No, they're frightened because they're philanthropists.

 

[escapegoat]

It just shows how out of touch with reality these dudes are. Who in their right mind would enjoy a complete stranger (who will usually be bigger/stronger than you) coming up to you, being super pushy and intense, and acting like he has total authority over you? It’s annoying at best and outright threatening and scary at worst.

Most of the women who seem turned on by that behavior are probably planning the best escape route in their heads.

Don't forget that they are also instructed to insult you.

It's almost like the gurus selling all this crap hope it won't work, so they don't lose any customers.

 

[LtCucumber]

It just shows how out of touch with reality these dudes are. Who in their right mind would enjoy a complete stranger (who will usually be bigger/stronger than you) coming up to you, being super pushy and intense, and acting like he has total authority over you? It’s annoying at best and outright threatening and scary at worst.

Most of the women who seem turned on by that behavior are probably planning the best escape route in their heads.

They think that being pushy and intense is how you get the ladies. By being a "chad", of course (then saying something like "but you'd let me do this if I was more conventionally attractive" when turned down). Which shows how even MORE out of touch they are when it comes to how to get women.

I find it so ridiculous, how they act like "chad" is your typical "10" dude- when some women aren't into guys who are typically considered a "10" (for example: whichever male celebrity is in the news right now), or different guys are "10" to them as opposed to who is typically considered very conventionally attractive. Attraction and what is and is not attractive is subjective. Some people like muscles, some hate it. Some people prefer redheads while others like blondes. It's simple shit. But they don't get it- you bring up why they wouldn't fuck anyone below THEIR standard, it's because "but I don't find her attractive" yet they think they should push someone who doesn't find them attractive.

Sure, they're right with "you fEEEMaleEs would accept this from chad". Correct. Because if a woman is interested in someone, she'll be more ok with that person being forward than someone she's not interested in (who most likely was also staring her down from across the room/store breathing heavily into his fedora).

Sounds stupid to say out loud, but there's actually people who can't understand that if someone isn't interested and said so, it's not because "they'd accept it from someone who is more conventionally attractive". It's because they'd accept forward (and much less creepy) behaviour from someone they found attractive and/or they are interesed in.

Though, i can guarantee people don't accept creepy behaviour from ANYONE. :powerlevel:I found an ex of mine pretty attractive, but he made me uncomfortable, and that was that. He was attractive, sure, but his personality was not.

 

[jewelry investor]

Speaking as a woman, can confirm. Sometimes it's just safest to smile, nod, accept the offered number, then GTFO rather than try to turn down a guy in public. Even if they don't do anything violent in response, getting harassed for the rest of the night about "omg why won't you give me a chance/why are you such a stuck up bitch/you're fat and ugly and a slut anyways" is a sure fire way to ruin a night out. "Nice Guys" are some of the worst offenders of this. You think they go nuts over text? Whoo boy, seeing one melt down in person on you for saying 'no' is even more dramatic.

Somewhat off-topic, but I like to show this video to people who buy into the PUA definition of an "alpha male":

Adam is a snarky mother fucker and in no way should anyone emulate him nor PUA alfalfa males.

"Alpha" is vacuous term. It means different things to different people. On one hand it means being successful, like Mark Zuckerberg , on the other hand it means being aggressive, like Josef Fritzl . They can't say "don't be a weak faggot".

 

[Ido]

 

[Fulda's Gap]

Holy SHIT. "My Darkie Waifu?"

If I ever feel like sleeping on the couch for a few nights, I know exactly what to say, now!

 

[X68000]

Some fresh goodness from our friends over at Anime Lovers Inc.:

Spoiler

 

[Overcast]

To be fair, Sauske's hair does look like a duck.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I'd cry fake, but the times we live in, I dunno.

 

[AnimuGinger]

"IF EVERYGUY HAD WATCHED ANIME THEN THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BOTHER WITH YOU DUMB FEMININE FEMALES."

So, would they go for the fat ones finally, or just stick to 2D waifus?

 

[escapegoat]

Is is saying that all anime spergs are Teh Gay?