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Such a class will not work in practice I mean how the fuck do you even imagine this? Teachers in public schools are already struggling to teach basic math and language skills in many places. Who's going to do it? How? It's stupid. It also attacks the problem from the wrong angle imho.
I personally think this needs to be a thing of upringing and at it's root is not even an issue of the communication between genders.
Kids need to learn the important life lesson that they are simply not entitled to certain things in life and that there simply are sometimes more important things than their own wishes and dreams and that they are sometimes not the most important thing in the room. There has been this feel-good trend in education in the last 30-40 years were kids get put more and more into the center and before everything and while it's certainly well-intentioned, it can be actually damaging for the goal to integrate and grow them into society. All kids will be adults some day and they need to learn limits and understand how to navigate in a society where they won't be anybody special or the constant center of attention, or they will integrate very poorly into adult life.
This whole trend to raise kids in a way to present them their life as them being stars in their own film and give them lots of ass-patting along the way until they're suddenly 18 and get thrown out there to the sharks is pretty counter-productive to the goal of a good, social and polite society were people treat each other with respect. I think somebody who learned in early years the lesson that you simply can't always get what you want is much less likely to turn nice guy.
I mean you notice it with the incels in the other thread here, all of them have a very childish demeanor in common that kind of shows that they missed a lot of these key experiences that turn kids into somewhat well-adjusted adults and they somehow didn't manage to grow as people. The term manchildren is thrown around a lot but it really applies well to incels and their whole level of mental maturity, complete with childish and unrealistic power fantasies and all.
tl;dr I basically believe the problem is being raised with a sense of entitlement, its' not surprising that sense develops into feeling entitled to their romantic interests.
Also another unrelated thing is that men need to learn that it is not supposed to be a struggle. Hollywood lied to you. You don't have to win a woman over. If you have nothing in common and don't even really like the stuff she's interested in and talks about, you actually do not want to be with her, and you as a man are also in the right of saying "not interested". Also if a woman insists to be "won over" you especially do not wanna be with her. Relationships are actually supposed to be a net positive, not a permanent drain and drag. It's shocking how many people live like this.
I personally think this needs to be a thing of upringing and at it's root is not even an issue of the communication between genders.
Kids need to learn the important life lesson that they are simply not entitled to certain things in life and that there simply are sometimes more important things than their own wishes and dreams and that they are sometimes not the most important thing in the room. There has been this feel-good trend in education in the last 30-40 years were kids get put more and more into the center and before everything and while it's certainly well-intentioned, it can be actually damaging for the goal to integrate and grow them into society. All kids will be adults some day and they need to learn limits and understand how to navigate in a society where they won't be anybody special or the constant center of attention, or they will integrate very poorly into adult life.
This whole trend to raise kids in a way to present them their life as them being stars in their own film and give them lots of ass-patting along the way until they're suddenly 18 and get thrown out there to the sharks is pretty counter-productive to the goal of a good, social and polite society were people treat each other with respect. I think somebody who learned in early years the lesson that you simply can't always get what you want is much less likely to turn nice guy.
I mean you notice it with the incels in the other thread here, all of them have a very childish demeanor in common that kind of shows that they missed a lot of these key experiences that turn kids into somewhat well-adjusted adults and they somehow didn't manage to grow as people. The term manchildren is thrown around a lot but it really applies well to incels and their whole level of mental maturity, complete with childish and unrealistic power fantasies and all.
tl;dr I basically believe the problem is being raised with a sense of entitlement, its' not surprising that sense develops into feeling entitled to their romantic interests.
Also another unrelated thing is that men need to learn that it is not supposed to be a struggle. Hollywood lied to you. You don't have to win a woman over. If you have nothing in common and don't even really like the stuff she's interested in and talks about, you actually do not want to be with her, and you as a man are also in the right of saying "not interested". Also if a woman insists to be "won over" you especially do not wanna be with her. Relationships are actually supposed to be a net positive, not a permanent drain and drag. It's shocking how many people live like this.
