Nintendo Switch 2 - For the Soytendo consoomers to speculate about the successor to the Switch, recently announced for 2025.

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Really, I'm not too sure what the idea behind the whole "variable pricing" thing Nintendo is going for is supposed to work.

Like, how exactly does one count for a game being worth $80 compared to $60? It just leads to more confusion.
 
Like, how exactly does one count for a game being worth $80 compared to $60? It just leads to more confusion.
The amount of effort put into it, the amount you think it will sell.

Story of Seasons was never 40-60 on the Switch. It was in the 30s. For example.

Nintendo has done this for decades. Their idiotic move was being honest and telling people the obvious.
 
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I'm placing a bet now that these "key cards" are going to be the access point for breaking into the Switch 2, or being the source for piracy. But it all depends on how they actually work.

If they are basically "hard dongles" then it could range from practically impossible to very difficult but possible. With a hard dongle scheme the "key cards" aren't just small amount of flash memory that contain something like a unique cryptographic token (as has been used before by Nintendo) for accessing their CDN to download the game. They would actually contain active cryptographic hardware like the type of dongle you see with high-end PC software. If it is implemented very well it can be literally like breaking into Fort Knox IRL, or, if there is a flaw in the implementation, then there is hope from a very narrow angle. It is possible to emulate this type of hardware, and if someone can decrypt and dump the contents of a keycard, it can be loaded onto this emulated cryptographic hardware. This method would also provide a huge advantage in that you don't even need to hack the console, all the heavy lifting is done by the emulated key card. If done correctly the Switch 2 won't be able to tell it isn't communicating with an authentic key card and to switch games you just have to switch out the key card it is emulating at any given moment. The problem with this is that if the same key card token tried to download from Nintendo's CDN at the same time, I guarantee it is an auto-ban for that cryptographic token, making the original and any copies worthless, and it is likely that any consoles using it would be banned because there would be no reason for two people to have the same token unless it was piracy since they are unique for each key card.

If they just contain flash memory that has a unique cryptographic token in it, so a "soft dongle", then that means that all the heavy lifting is done by cryptographic hardware inside the actual Switch 2. If this is true then it means that regardless of how well it is implemented some avenue to break into the system exists, we just need to wait for it to be found. However, this type of implementation can end up needing the owner to modify the hardware on the console to make exploiting the flaw possible, which sucks. But, it is also possible someone could find a software flaw rooted in the actual silicon, such as with the first version of the Switch 1, and then you can modify the software of the console without having to do anything to the hardware of the console itself. From that point it's basically the same scenario as the first version of the Switch 1 as far as exploiting it.

I guess we'll have to wait and see once someone get's their hands on an actual Switch 2 and a key card.
 
So apprently the updates are on the cart for first party games.

https://www.vooks.net/nintendo-conf...s-needed-for-physical-switch-2-edition-games/

But to double check, I have Contacted them to check myself. I will report back.

Edit: Multiple places are now seemingly confirm the above by doing the same as me, if you buy a Physical Switch 2 edition, the enhancements are on the card already.
xo what you're saying is that they're basically throwing a code in for what amounts to reprinted old stock?, i guess that's one way of clearing it out
 
and if you think that Nintendo's execs are too poor to take a downgraded paycheck then you are a shill.
Especially when Iwata very publicly slashed his own pay to decrease the price of the U and not have to fire anyone.
xo what you're saying is that they're basically throwing a code in for what amounts to reprinted old stock?, i guess that's one way of clearing it out
No, all Switch 2 Editions will have the updates on the cart.
 
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Is it true that the Gamecube controller they are selling is not compatible with Switch 2 games?
They have said similar about previous controlers and those worked fine.

It is literal wait and see because Nintendo can never just be clear out of the gate.
I'm pissed I can't use my OG Gamecube controller. I hope someone comes up with an adapter I can slap on the end of it's cord.
Ones already exsist. Switch 2 can play Ultimate. They released an adapter with Ultimate to use Cube controllers. You can still plug the adapters into Switch 2.
 
This is insane.
Well, from the article:
It should be noted that Nintendo has given similar disclaimers to previous retro controllers, stating that they didn’t work outside of their respective Switch Online libraries, but that players have subsequently been able to make them work with certain other games.
Though personally I find it a bit nutty to choose to use a GC controller, given any other option. Where's the steering wheel, the flight stick, the authentic Virtual Boy goggles, the Wii Motion Classic, and R.O.B. 2.0?
 
Really, I'm not too sure what the idea behind the whole "variable pricing" thing Nintendo is going for is supposed to work.

Like, how exactly does one count for a game being worth $80 compared to $60? It just leads to more confusion.
It is pretty much just based on how much Nintendo expects the game to sell.

Mario Kart sold 60 million copies on Switch so they can get away with an $80 price tag. I expect 3D Mario and Zelda will also be $80.

DK Bananza is $70 so that will be the price for the vast majority of Switch 2 games.
 
Well, from the article:

Though personally I find it a bit nutty to choose to use a GC controller, given any other option. Where's the steering wheel, the flight stick, the authentic Virtual Boy goggles, the Wii Motion Classic, and R.O.B. 2.0?
Considering they a launching with MKW, I bet we will see a steering whel in the MKW Direct.

Not sure if the Fighting Game means we will get a stick straight away.
 
Is it true that the Gamecube controller they are selling is not compatible with Switch 2 games?
Not quite. It's just that Nintendo doesn't guarantee it will work with anything other than gamecube, but given you could use the snes and n64 controllers on basically everything, there's literally zero reason it won't work like that here too. They even added switch 2 buttons, and not just the call button, the ZL button as well, so there's nothing it's missing that would cause issues. That doesn't make as clickbaity of a headline though.
 
It's an oldie but goodie meme that I live by and it's very relevant to this discussion:
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